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    • triple9T
      triple9 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

      @DustinB3403 said in Managing Hyper-V:

      I'm in the camp of not joining your hypervisors to the domain.

      If you get locked (because of domain controls) out of your hypervisors then you're SOL, along with the domain functions.

      We all had 5Nine for free till a few days ago.

      has anyone tried this product? https://www.probus-it.com/prohvm-hyper-v-manager/
      It has free version and pro is not that expensive (€59.00).
      I don't have access to Hyper-V server at the moment to try by myself how it works.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @triple9
        last edited by dafyre

        @triple9 Looks interesting.

        I did a quick test of it, and it let me connect from a non-domain joined Win10 client to a Domain-Joined Hyper-V 2012 R2 server with just entering my credentials and what-not.

        It DOES provide VM Console access, and it doesn't seem terribly slow either, so after my 5 minutes with it, I rate it as not bad based on the free version. Might be worth buying licenses for folks that manage several Hyper-V servers.

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        • NashBrydgesN
          NashBrydges @triple9
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          @triple9 It's not as pretty as 5Nine but seems to perform the same functions as the free version of 5Nine provided. A little slower but it works.

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          • matteo nunziatiM
            matteo nunziati
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            don't understand what gives more then mmc snap-in so I'm going to test it but at first install run both smart screen and antivirus screwed. just retrying now...

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            • matteo nunziatiM
              matteo nunziati
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              ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.

              have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.

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              • matteo nunziatiM
                matteo nunziati @matteo nunziati
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                @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.

                have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.

                ok wine failed both as common user and as root. I give up!

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @matteo nunziati
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                  @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                  ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.

                  have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.

                  It didn't seem to run slowly to me at all.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @matteo nunziati
                    last edited by dafyre

                    @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                    @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                    ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.

                    have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.

                    ok wine failed both as common user and as root. I give up!

                    What version(s) of Wine have you tried?

                    Are we talking about proHVM or the windows client tools?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
                      last edited by

                      @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                      @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                      ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.

                      have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.

                      ok wine failed both as common user and as root. I give up!

                      I've heard it does not run that way as well 😞

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                      • matteo nunziatiM
                        matteo nunziati @dafyre
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                        @dafyre said in Managing Hyper-V:

                        @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                        @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                        ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.

                        have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.

                        ok wine failed both as common user and as root. I give up!

                        What version(s) of Wine have you tried?

                        the one available with ubuntu... didn't checked the version

                        Are we talking about proHVM or the windows client tools?

                        proHVM

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre @matteo nunziati
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                          @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                          @dafyre said in Managing Hyper-V:

                          @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                          @matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:

                          ok, if it is able to mix hyper-v version it can make a bit of sense but it is slooooooooooow.

                          have to move to the other warehouse, if I've time I'll try to run this in linux under wine.

                          ok wine failed both as common user and as root. I give up!

                          What version(s) of Wine have you tried?

                          the one available with ubuntu... didn't checked the version

                          Are we talking about proHVM or the windows client tools?

                          proHVM

                          I'll give this a go tomorrow and see what I can come up with.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by Obsolesce

                            @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                            Sure, we can use the Scale to manage Hyper-V, but it's hard to believe that that is the answer for such a giant ecosystem - it needs external support for remote management. XenServer + XenOrchestra, Scale, KVM with different tools, etc. have secure web management interfaces for this stuff so that they can be used in a non-LAN setting natively and easily.

                            @scottalanmiller What free tools allow you to view console and manage KVM and VMs running on KVM, over HTML5 (or remotely via web)?

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @Obsolesce
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                              @Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                              Sure, we can use the Scale to manage Hyper-V, but it's hard to believe that that is the answer for such a giant ecosystem - it needs external support for remote management. XenServer + XenOrchestra, Scale, KVM with different tools, etc. have secure web management interfaces for this stuff so that they can be used in a non-LAN setting natively and easily.

                              @scottalanmiller What free tools allow you to view console and manage KVM and VMs running on KVM, over HTML5 (or remotely via web)?

                              WebVirtMgr (http://retspen.github.io/) is what I use if I need a web Browser... otherwise, I just use the Virtual Machine Manager.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                @Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                Sure, we can use the Scale to manage Hyper-V, but it's hard to believe that that is the answer for such a giant ecosystem - it needs external support for remote management. XenServer + XenOrchestra, Scale, KVM with different tools, etc. have secure web management interfaces for this stuff so that they can be used in a non-LAN setting natively and easily.

                                @scottalanmiller What free tools allow you to view console and manage KVM and VMs running on KVM, over HTML5 (or remotely via web)?

                                The Scale HC3 gives you a web interface to your Windows that runs on top of it.

                                But you can put Guacamole in front of that.

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @dafyre
                                  last edited by

                                  @dafyre said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                  @Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                  Sure, we can use the Scale to manage Hyper-V, but it's hard to believe that that is the answer for such a giant ecosystem - it needs external support for remote management. XenServer + XenOrchestra, Scale, KVM with different tools, etc. have secure web management interfaces for this stuff so that they can be used in a non-LAN setting natively and easily.

                                  @scottalanmiller What free tools allow you to view console and manage KVM and VMs running on KVM, over HTML5 (or remotely via web)?

                                  WebVirtMgr (http://retspen.github.io/) is what I use if I need a web Browser... otherwise, I just use the Virtual Machine Manager.

                                  Really? That looks too good to be true...

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    @Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                    @dafyre said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                    @Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                    Sure, we can use the Scale to manage Hyper-V, but it's hard to believe that that is the answer for such a giant ecosystem - it needs external support for remote management. XenServer + XenOrchestra, Scale, KVM with different tools, etc. have secure web management interfaces for this stuff so that they can be used in a non-LAN setting natively and easily.

                                    @scottalanmiller What free tools allow you to view console and manage KVM and VMs running on KVM, over HTML5 (or remotely via web)?

                                    WebVirtMgr (http://retspen.github.io/) is what I use if I need a web Browser... otherwise, I just use the Virtual Machine Manager.

                                    Really? That looks too good to be true...

                                    To be fair, everything truly awesome looks too good to be true until we get used to using it. 🙂

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                      @Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                      @dafyre said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                      @Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                      Sure, we can use the Scale to manage Hyper-V, but it's hard to believe that that is the answer for such a giant ecosystem - it needs external support for remote management. XenServer + XenOrchestra, Scale, KVM with different tools, etc. have secure web management interfaces for this stuff so that they can be used in a non-LAN setting natively and easily.

                                      @scottalanmiller What free tools allow you to view console and manage KVM and VMs running on KVM, over HTML5 (or remotely via web)?

                                      WebVirtMgr (http://retspen.github.io/) is what I use if I need a web Browser... otherwise, I just use the Virtual Machine Manager.

                                      Really? That looks too good to be true...

                                      To be fair, everything truly awesome looks too good to be true until we get used to using it. 🙂

                                      And then everything else looks like scorched earth. . .

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Why does no one port awesome stuff like this to Hyper-V? Hyper-V seriously gets no love.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                          Why does no one port awesome stuff like this to Hyper-V? Hyper-V seriously gets no love.

                                          Because they're all afraid that MS is going to ruin it for them.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:

                                            Why does no one port awesome stuff like this to Hyper-V? Hyper-V seriously gets no love.

                                            Because they're all afraid that MS is going to ruin it for them.

                                            Good point, so instead they ruin it for MS. Ha ha

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