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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 said in Open Source LAMP Web Hosting Panels:

      I installed Vesta this morning while waiting for other things to happen. I really like it so far, and I should have my personal domain pointing to it here shortly. It was nice to have DNS working out of the box. For some reason I always seem to struggle with named configs.

      It's definitely nice and super fast. I'm not sure if I like it controlling all of the configs, though. I have this feeling that it might be easier to just do without the control panel since they all lack the installers and things like the GUI based file management tools.

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      • guyinpvG
        guyinpv @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller

        A file management tool is, naturally, a paid upgrade of Vesta.

        You might be happiest with Webmin then. it's not a LAMP panel, it's just a general server management GUI. Almost everything you do in it just translates to a standard console command and most output you see when running things is the same command line output.

        Here is editing the php.ini file:
        0_1490391429524_edit php.png

        And here is if I click the little edit manually button, just raw config.
        0_1490391454088_edit manually.png

        Here is adding a virtual host in Apache:
        0_1490391547044_add virtual host.png

        It has a file manager:
        0_1490391678958_file manager.png

        Most everything is either a simple GUI to edit, and/or gives raw text editor for configs. You can even create "custom commands" which can then be ran as needed with a button.

        I only used Vesta when I wanted a point-n-click simple web server with one or more sites on it. With Webmin, I've set up Samba shared to Windows, copied SSH keys, set up cron jobs and view stats. It's better as a server manager.

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        • guyinpvG
          guyinpv @Alex Sage
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          @aaronstuder You can see the name in my previous screenshot. Called "Authentic Theme".

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @guyinpv
            last edited by

            @guyinpv that's kind of where I ended up and that led me to wondering if any panel really makes sense or if deploying apps via a CM wouldn't make more sense.

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            • CloudKnightC
              CloudKnight
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              I managed to get ISPCONFIG Installed without issue, and the hosting panel has built in packages for installing third party software like Wordpress:

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                That looks pretty nice.

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                • guyinpvG
                  guyinpv @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller If that's so, check out AMPPS http://www.ampps.com/LAMP
                  It will install the common LAMP stack with a few extra goodies, but includes Softaculous app installer for free.
                  If you want a server to act as more a "deploy apps on the fly" server, this might be a good option.
                  Sometimes if I want to test something on Wordpress or try any app they have, I can just go in and install with a few clicks, do my thing, and then destroy the app after.

                  But if all you want is an app launcher, you might even do this on the cheap, or free, on Google Cloud with their Launcher tool. https://cloud.google.com/launcher/

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                  • AdamFA
                    AdamF
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                    @scottalanmiller Did you ever land on one that you like/use? I want to toy around with this in my lab.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @AdamF
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                      @fuznutz04 said in Open Source LAMP Web Hosting Panels:

                      @scottalanmiller Did you ever land on one that you like/use? I want to toy around with this in my lab.

                      Nope. Ended up deciding that state systems were better.

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                      • AdamFA
                        AdamF @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller Nice. Even better... I'm focusing heavily on that anyway.

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                        • jmooreJ
                          jmoore
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                          I have never used a panel before. I experimented once because people kept raving about it. Think I was trying to set up a database or something. It was too counter-intuitive and I couldn't figure out how to use it. I've used cli ever since.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce
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                            I haven't seen Virtualmin mentioned.

                            I haven't used it and I don't know much about it, but it stuck out. It looks like there's a free version, and a professional version that adds support.

                            From their website:

                            "Virtualmin is a web hosting control panel, designed to make it easy to manage websites, mailbox users, databases, and web applications. It provides website owner accounts, easily installable web applications, file management, and a comprehensive and easy to use API for integration with billing and support systems. Installing Virtualmin provides a full-featured web hosting stack with web, email, databases, spam and antivirus filtering, analytics, and much more. Virtualmin is the easiest and fastest way to turn a Linux system into a full-featured web hosting system, and it is fully integrated with Webmin."

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @Obsolesce
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                              @tim_g

                              Cloudmin looks pretty nice too. Though I haven't tried it and nothing to compare it to.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                                @jmoore said in Open Source LAMP Web Hosting Panels:

                                I have never used a panel before. I experimented once because people kept raving about it. Think I was trying to set up a database or something. It was too counter-intuitive and I couldn't figure out how to use it. I've used cli ever since.

                                Yeah. I used cPanel with ASO and it wasn't horrible. But not great.

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Open Source LAMP Web Hosting Panels:

                                  @jmoore said in Open Source LAMP Web Hosting Panels:

                                  I have never used a panel before. I experimented once because people kept raving about it. Think I was trying to set up a database or something. It was too counter-intuitive and I couldn't figure out how to use it. I've used cli ever since.

                                  Yeah. I used cPanel with ASO and it wasn't horrible. But not great.

                                  I tend to agree with you on cPanel. It works, but isn't the most logically laid out imo.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                    @travisdh1 said in Open Source LAMP Web Hosting Panels:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Open Source LAMP Web Hosting Panels:

                                    @jmoore said in Open Source LAMP Web Hosting Panels:

                                    I have never used a panel before. I experimented once because people kept raving about it. Think I was trying to set up a database or something. It was too counter-intuitive and I couldn't figure out how to use it. I've used cli ever since.

                                    Yeah. I used cPanel with ASO and it wasn't horrible. But not great.

                                    I tend to agree with you on cPanel. It works, but isn't the most logically laid out imo.

                                    It seems to take more work than just doing work by hand. Makes no sense.

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                                    • AdamFA
                                      AdamF
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                                      But don't web posting panels like this allow for an easy way for clients to do simple tasks like FTP access, web based file management, etc? How is that addressed?

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                                      • jmooreJ
                                        jmoore
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                                        It does not seem easier to me. Could just be me though.

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @AdamF
                                          last edited by

                                          @fuznutz04 said in Open Source LAMP Web Hosting Panels:

                                          But don't web posting panels like this allow for an easy way for clients to do simple tasks like FTP access, web based file management, etc? How is that addressed?

                                          They attempt to make things easier to access, it rarely really works, especially if you're already a sysadmin that knows how to do it all.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                                            @jmoore said in Open Source LAMP Web Hosting Panels:

                                            It does not seem easier to me. Could just be me though.

                                            It's often not just more steps, but more complex too!

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