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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee
      last edited by FATeknollogee

      Trying the A2 upload again......not looking very fast
      I'm timing w stopwatch.
      0_1490285886545_a2_upload.PNG

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee
        last edited by FATeknollogee

        Still waiting...
        0_1490286306618_a2_slow.PNG

        That upload took 9:29

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        • StrongBadS
          StrongBad
          last edited by

          WTF. How is it that slow?

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @StrongBad
            last edited by

            @StrongBad said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

            WTF. How is it that slow?

            He's on a 150 meg/150 meg connection. It should upload a 150 meg file like that in a few seconds, not a few minutes.

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            • StrongBadS
              StrongBad @dafyre
              last edited by

              @dafyre no kidding. That's ridiculous.

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              • CloudKnightC
                CloudKnight
                last edited by

                I have mine hosted on my dedicated server as a VM with OVH.

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                • guyinpvG
                  guyinpv @dafyre
                  last edited by

                  @dafyre Just because an end user has that kind of bandwidth, doesn't mean any webhost or server provider is going to let one user consume that much just because they can. At any rate, that transfer speed was still really really slow, like measured in Kilobytes per second slow. It doesn't seem right.

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee @guyinpv
                    last edited by

                    @guyinpv said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                    @dafyre Just because an end user has that kind of bandwidth, doesn't mean any webhost or server provider is going to let one user consume that much just because they can. At any rate, that transfer speed was still really really slow, like measured in Kilobytes per second slow. It doesn't seem right.

                    How is that relevant to the issue at hand?
                    Is Vultr not considered a webhost/server provider?

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                    • guyinpvG
                      guyinpv @FATeknollogee
                      last edited by

                      @FATeknollogee

                      Cause it's what others were talking about first? A2 was the slow one, didn't mention VULTR.

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee @guyinpv
                        last edited by

                        @guyinpv Either you did not read the posts or you missed where I compared A2 to Vultr!

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee
                          last edited by

                          Just tried the upload again......speed wins
                          Vultr: 17 seconds
                          A2: 8 mins 27 secs

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
                            last edited by JaredBusch

                            @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                            Just tried the upload again......speed wins
                            Vultr: 17 seconds
                            A2: 8 mins 27 secs

                            you have a 150/150 pipe? you will nnever see more than 100 to/from my instance because my colo only gives me 100mbps link.

                            but yeah that A2 speed is screwy slow

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              Yep, 150/150 FIOS pipe.

                              At my colo, I have 1000/500 pipe.

                              Really surprised at the lack of speed from A2.

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                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                So, I opened a ticket with A2 support:

                                Me:
                                reference: My internet connection is 150/150

                                I uploaded 2 mp4 files ( 74 & 196 MB)
                                Vultr upload took 10 secs.
                                A2 upload took over 7 mins

                                Downloading just the 196MB file:
                                Vultr: 1 sec
                                A2: 1 min.

                                A few hours later, I tried the upload again:......speed wins
                                Vultr: 17 seconds
                                A2: 8 mins 27 secs

                                Why are these speeds so poor?

                                A2 Support:
                                Thank you for contacting us. I would be happy to answer that question. We are not a file sharing service nor do we allow file sharing websites so our service is not optimized to feed that type of setup. From what I can tell this seems to be what you might be setting up as that is what Next Cloud is for. We do not allow this on our servers / we do not allow File Storage.

                                Please do not setup a file sharing or backup or storage cloud on the server. I apologize for any confusion.

                                Me:
                                Are you serious?
                                Why is NextCloud available to install in the Softaculous catalog? Why not remove it since you claim it is not allowed?

                                A2:
                                Thank you for your reply, I apologize for any confusion this has caused you. We offer our customers a variety of scripting using the Softaculous installer, as with all websites on our network the content of our customers sites must be in keeping with our Terms of Service and Acceptable Use Policy which prohibits :

                                Audio/Video streaming (other than that which is incidental to a site's operation)
                                Very large photo galleries
                                Storage of a large amount of uncompressed or full-size digital images
                                Online file (FTP) serving
                                Distribution of large audio or video content such as MP3 files
                                Online backups (i.e. backup of desktop/laptop computer, files, or anything not directly related to the website)

                                https://www.a2hosting.com/about/policies/terms-of-service

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by

                                  @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                  So, I opened a ticket with A2 support:

                                  Me:
                                  reference: My internet connection is 150/150

                                  I uploaded 2 mp4 files ( 74 & 196 MB)
                                  Vultr upload took 10 secs.
                                  A2 upload took over 7 mins

                                  Downloading just the 196MB file:
                                  Vultr: 1 sec
                                  A2: 1 min.

                                  A few hours later, I tried the upload again:......speed wins
                                  Vultr: 17 seconds
                                  A2: 8 mins 27 secs

                                  Why are these speeds so poor?

                                  A2 Support:
                                  Thank you for contacting us. I would be happy to answer that question. We are not a file sharing service nor do we allow file sharing websites so our service is not optimized to feed that type of setup. From what I can tell this seems to be what you might be setting up as that is what Next Cloud is for. We do not allow this on our servers / we do not allow File Storage.

                                  Please do not setup a file sharing or backup or storage cloud on the server. I apologize for any confusion.

                                  Me:
                                  Are you serious?
                                  Why is NextCloud available to install in the Softaculous catalog? Why not remove it since you claim it is not allowed?

                                  A2:
                                  Thank you for your reply, I apologize for any confusion this has caused you. We offer our customers a variety of scripting using the Softaculous installer, as with all websites on our network the content of our customers sites must be in keeping with our Terms of Service and Acceptable Use Policy which prohibits :

                                  Audio/Video streaming (other than that which is incidental to a site's operation)
                                  Very large photo galleries
                                  Storage of a large amount of uncompressed or full-size digital images
                                  Online file (FTP) serving
                                  Distribution of large audio or video content such as MP3 files
                                  Online backups (i.e. backup of desktop/laptop computer, files, or anything not directly related to the website)

                                  https://www.a2hosting.com/about/policies/terms-of-service

                                  You: Okay, thanks. I'll move all my stuff off of A2 then, and switch to another provider, such as Vultr, where these types of services are allowed.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                    last edited by

                                    @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                    So, I opened a ticket with A2 support:

                                    Me:
                                    reference: My internet connection is 150/150

                                    I uploaded 2 mp4 files ( 74 & 196 MB)
                                    Vultr upload took 10 secs.
                                    A2 upload took over 7 mins

                                    Downloading just the 196MB file:
                                    Vultr: 1 sec
                                    A2: 1 min.

                                    A few hours later, I tried the upload again:......speed wins
                                    Vultr: 17 seconds
                                    A2: 8 mins 27 secs

                                    Why are these speeds so poor?

                                    A2 Support:
                                    Thank you for contacting us. I would be happy to answer that question. We are not a file sharing service nor do we allow file sharing websites so our service is not optimized to feed that type of setup. From what I can tell this seems to be what you might be setting up as that is what Next Cloud is for. We do not allow this on our servers / we do not allow File Storage.

                                    Please do not setup a file sharing or backup or storage cloud on the server. I apologize for any confusion.

                                    Me:
                                    Are you serious?
                                    Why is NextCloud available to install in the Softaculous catalog? Why not remove it since you claim it is not allowed?

                                    A2:
                                    Thank you for your reply, I apologize for any confusion this has caused you. We offer our customers a variety of scripting using the Softaculous installer, as with all websites on our network the content of our customers sites must be in keeping with our Terms of Service and Acceptable Use Policy which prohibits :

                                    Audio/Video streaming (other than that which is incidental to a site's operation)
                                    Very large photo galleries
                                    Storage of a large amount of uncompressed or full-size digital images
                                    Online file (FTP) serving
                                    Distribution of large audio or video content such as MP3 files
                                    Online backups (i.e. backup of desktop/laptop computer, files, or anything not directly related to the website)

                                    https://www.a2hosting.com/about/policies/terms-of-service

                                    Holy crap what a load of BS. Add them to the list of "never ever use."

                                    Cloudways will have zero issue with that!

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                                    • FATeknollogeeF
                                      FATeknollogee
                                      last edited by

                                      As much as I would love to move off A2 and use Cloudways, I've got a few things to consider:

                                      1. Domain name hosting
                                      2. DNS settings for my different domains
                                      3. Email accounts
                                      4. No "one-click" install of some 3rd party apps
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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                        last edited by

                                        @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                        As much as I would love to move off A2 and use Cloudways, I've got a few things to consider:

                                        1. Domain name hosting

                                        That should never be tied to any other service. THat's your registrar and should have no technical role whatsoever. We use GoDaddy for this.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                          last edited by

                                          @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                          1. DNS settings for my different domains

                                          What is the concern there?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                            last edited by

                                            @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                            1. Email accounts

                                            You hosted email with your web host? You get a facepalm for that one.

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