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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Issue installing Korora:

      @Tim_G said in Issue installing Korora:

      @scottalanmiller said in Issue installing Korora:

      The benefit to developers is that it is easy to target Ubuntu LTS and only have to test your software against packages every two years, not every six months.

      I think this is the winning statement for my complete understanding.

      As an IT systems engineer, I care about security, and I care about the services my servers provide continuously provide those services without unplanned interruption.

      That tells me I should, for my purposes, stick with "current". And that the busy app developers would more likely choose LTS for their purposes, and reasons already mentioned in previous posts.

      Ubuntu's convoluted system has led to real problems. Take MongoDB and Node.js. The MongoDB team only targets LTS for up to date releases. The Node team, only Current. If you want to run the latest from each team on a single box (a REALLY common thing to do) you are out of luck.

      The biggest problem with Ubuntu's approach is that it is confusing. You can ask a product company "do you support RHEL" and when they say "yes" you know what they mean. But when you ask a company if they support Ubuntu, you don't. No one says that they support CentOS but only supports every fourth release. They might not always be up to date on the latest, but you can't say you support CentOS with a straight face and not support one of the last two releases at least.

      But with Ubuntu, it's common for vendors to only target every fourth release AND trail by a year or two, meaning that they could be releasing for every fourth release... years behind. Making them up to eight releases behind current! It gets to be a mess.

      The mix of LTS and Current I feel has made the "we just let it age" mentality in the Ubuntu world explode. Suddenly it is COMMON to hear of places actually running 12.04 today, that's about to be ten releases old in a few weeks. Imagine that in any other realm. It's the same as running Fedora 15 today on your servers! Imagine telling someone that you were doing that! But on Ubuntu... that's super common. Almost no one running Ubuntu that I talk to runs up to date. Ubuntu has taken on the Windows ecosystem's "don't update till it turns to dust" mentality.

      Yeah, makes sense. I agree.

      I really wish Microsoft wouldn't have gone with the Ubuntu integration... bash for windows... (windows subsystem for Linux) or whatever you want to call it. I think I would have preferred RHEL based.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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        @Tim_G said in Issue installing Korora:

        I really wish Microsoft wouldn't have gone with the Ubuntu integration... bash for windows... (windows subsystem for Linux) or whatever you want to call it. I think I would have preferred RHEL based.

        It's honestly so silly that... who cares. I can't fathom for whom that system has value. It's so cheesy.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Was just looking at this.... look how close our Vultr system is to being Ubuntu-free. You can see Fedora sneaking in quickly. There is already a plan for the remaining Ubuntu to move to Fedora, as well. But we will see if and when that happens.

          0_1490153691070_Screenshot from 2017-03-22 04-33-50.png

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            That ISO image is CentOS, too.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              We have two other cloud providers, both 100% CentOS.

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                Texkonc
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                You Linux guys are strange, where is the fun in typing all the time?

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @Texkonc
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                  @Texkonc said in Issue installing Korora:

                  You Linux guys are strange, where is the fun in typing all the time?

                  You don't PowerShell all the time?

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                    Texkonc @Obsolesce
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                    @Tim_G said in Issue installing Korora:

                    @Texkonc said in Issue installing Korora:

                    You Linux guys are strange, where is the fun in typing all the time?

                    You don't PowerShell all the time?

                    pssssst, dont need no stinkin powershell. remember to puff puff pass.

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                    • mlnewsM
                      mlnews
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                      We are all exhausted after this one today. But congrats on this and Dash's flow post taking a slow day and shooting it up to a really busy one!

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                      • matteo nunziatiM
                        matteo nunziati @Obsolesce
                        last edited by matteo nunziati

                        @Tim_G said in Issue installing Korora:

                        Lets say I have the most important website in the world to run on my server, and all I can use is Ubuntu Server. Which one do I download, and why?

                        The one which works for you after some serious test if this site is really critical. As a number of versions are out simultaneously, select from those which work the one with more security fixes ahead.

                        But realistically if this is really mission critial use centos. sof "common" server scenarios is more valuable to me. it simply sucks for repos (try scientific computation without third party softwares on centos... good luck).

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                        • gjacobseG
                          gjacobse
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                          The old HP laptop I installed Korora on installed fine. It's dual booting nicely. And that is nice - since the Windows OS is (gag) Vista Home.

                          But on the desktop - running Win10 on an ASUS board and 120GB SSH isn't going so well. I've gparted the drive giving myself about 40GB of space. 0_1494202201998_Screenshot from 2017-05-08 00-05-53.png

                          Which is a little less than I have on the HP, but never the less it should work fine. Yet I get errors-

                          0_1494202327324_Screenshot from 2017-05-07 23-55-48.png

                          And I can't get it to install. So - while I can toy around with Korora on the laptop, I'm a tad disappointed at the moment. Yet, I'm confident that I'm just missing some minute thing...

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Skip Automatic partitioning and go for manual. This might expose the problem.

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                            • matteo nunziatiM
                              matteo nunziati @gjacobse
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                              @gjacobse the main window shows >40gib free. My bet is the logic under it stops at the first free partition of 1MB.

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                              • gjacobseG
                                gjacobse
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                                Still no love -

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                                • matteo nunziatiM
                                  matteo nunziati @gjacobse
                                  last edited by matteo nunziati

                                  @gjacobse Ok stupid question: is this a gpt disk?

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                                  • gjacobseG
                                    gjacobse @matteo nunziati
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                                    @matteo-nunziati said in Issue installing Korora:

                                    @gjacobse Ok stupid question: is this a gpt disk?

                                    Is this a gpt disk? A what?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                                      @gjacobse said in Issue installing Korora:

                                      @matteo-nunziati said in Issue installing Korora:

                                      @gjacobse Ok stupid question: is this a gpt disk?

                                      Is this a gpt disk? A what?

                                      Master boot record (MBR) disks use the standard BIOS partition table. GUID partition table (GPT) disks use unified extensible firmware interface (UEFI). One advantage of GPT disks is that you can have more than four partitions on each disk. GPT is also required for disks larger than 2 terabytes.

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                                      • gjacobseG
                                        gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Issue installing Korora:

                                        @gjacobse said in Issue installing Korora:

                                        @matteo-nunziati said in Issue installing Korora:

                                        @gjacobse Ok stupid question: is this a gpt disk?

                                        Is this a gpt disk? A what?

                                        Master boot record (MBR) disks use the standard BIOS partition table. GUID partition table (GPT) disks use unified extensible firmware interface (UEFI). One advantage of GPT disks is that you can have more than four partitions on each disk. GPT is also required for disks larger than 2 terabytes.

                                        uh okay.

                                        It's a UEFI Windows 10 build does this Gparted Screen Shot (above) tell you?

                                        https://i.imgur.com/8O98UNE.png

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          That only tells us that no obvious UEFI partition has been created, not anything about the setup.

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                                          • momurdaM
                                            momurda
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                                            My guess, as suggested by others, the 1MB partition is throwing the installer off, or it is actually an MBR setup and you cant install because youll have too many primary partitions afterwards.
                                            The 1MB partition problem can be mitigated by moving the 1MB unallocated to the right of the sda2 partition. Move is a function in gparted.

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