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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

      @JaredBusch said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

      @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

      @JaredBusch said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

      He stated that he already has users without admin rights. All right there highlighted for your obliviousness.

      Yes the users, not IT.

      What? You apparently cannot admit to being unable to actually read instead of skim.

      I'm very sorry to everyone involved for giving some credit and not being condescending. I assumed that once he switched to "users" he had moved on from the installation task.

      The question as quoted by JB and myself was about SRP affecting installations - how is that anything but an install question?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IRJ
        last edited by scottalanmiller

        @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

        @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

        @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

        @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

        Group Policy is not limited to domains. You can use Group Policy manually at each machine.

        That's right, but at when you are deploying it with scripts it's considered local policy. Even though you can deploy it just as effectively as you would with Group policy.

        Group Policy deploys it locally with scripts, too 😉

        It works the same way, but according to Microsoft's terminology it is not the same thing.

        According to two separate introduction articles to Group Policy, Microsoft defines it as utilizing AD. Until you utilize AD, it is really just local policy that is scripted.

        https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh147307(v=ws.10).aspx

        https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742376.aspx

        Even Wikipedia's definition clearly defines that Group Policy uses AD

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_Policy

        Actually that Wikipedia links still calls it Group Policy, just "Local Group Policy" when run locally. But it makes it clear that it is still group policy in the name.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @IRJ
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          @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

          @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

          @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

          @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

          Group Policy is not limited to domains. You can use Group Policy manually at each machine.

          That's right, but at when you are deploying it with scripts it's considered local policy. Even though you can deploy it just as effectively as you would with Group policy.

          Group Policy deploys it locally with scripts, too 😉

          It works the same way, but according to Microsoft's terminology it is not the same thing.

          According to two separate introduction articles to Group Policy, Microsoft defines it as utilizing AD. Until you utilize AD, it is really just local policy that is scripted.

          https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh147307(v=ws.10).aspx

          https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742376.aspx

          Even Wikipedia's definition clearly defines that Group Policy uses AD

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_Policy

          This is the fuzziness that I've been having even since Scott started saying that AD and GP have nothing to do with each other. While I do understand their are each their own components, but from an MS POV, they are part of a collective of things that most Windows admins consider one in the same.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @openit
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            Back on topic. The OP was clearly not looking to implement dev ops. He was after a simple script to set local GPO to enforce SRP.

            @openit said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

            Probably we can push script/app with ESET ERA6 to all pcs ? if possible, otherwise, we will do it manually.

            This is one of the better guides I know about to do this with powershell. You could make a ps1 script to push out with ESET.

            http://brandonpadgett.com/powershell/Local-gpo-powershell/

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

              @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

              @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

              Group Policy is not limited to domains. You can use Group Policy manually at each machine.

              That's right, but at when you are deploying it with scripts it's considered local policy. Even though you can deploy it just as effectively as you would with Group policy.

              Group Policy deploys it locally with scripts, too 😉

              It works the same way, but according to Microsoft's terminology it is not the same thing.

              According to two separate introduction articles to Group Policy, Microsoft defines it as utilizing AD. Until you utilize AD, it is really just local policy that is scripted.

              https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh147307(v=ws.10).aspx

              https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742376.aspx

              Even Wikipedia's definition clearly defines that Group Policy uses AD

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_Policy

              This is the fuzziness that I've been having even since Scott started saying that AD and GP have nothing to do with each other. While I do understand their are each their own components, but from an MS POV, they are part of a collective of things that most Windows admins consider one in the same.

              Yes, it appears that Microsoft really wants to say that Local Group Policy is not Group Policy. I'll concede that point. From an IT perspective, though, the thing called "Group Policy" functionally exists without AD, but technically cannot have the name.

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                @Dashrender said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                Group Policy is not limited to domains. You can use Group Policy manually at each machine.

                That's right, but at when you are deploying it with scripts it's considered local policy. Even though you can deploy it just as effectively as you would with Group policy.

                Group Policy deploys it locally with scripts, too 😉

                It works the same way, but according to Microsoft's terminology it is not the same thing.

                According to two separate introduction articles to Group Policy, Microsoft defines it as utilizing AD. Until you utilize AD, it is really just local policy that is scripted.

                https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh147307(v=ws.10).aspx

                https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742376.aspx

                Even Wikipedia's definition clearly defines that Group Policy uses AD

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_Policy

                This is the fuzziness that I've been having even since Scott started saying that AD and GP have nothing to do with each other. While I do understand their are each their own components, but from an MS POV, they are part of a collective of things that most Windows admins consider one in the same.

                Yes, it appears that Microsoft really wants to say that Local Group Policy is not Group Policy. I'll concede that point. From an IT perspective, though, the thing called "Group Policy" functionally exists without AD, but technically cannot have the name.

                Idk you might be right....

                https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc725970(v=ws.11).aspx

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                  @Dashrender said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                  @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                  @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                  Group Policy is not limited to domains. You can use Group Policy manually at each machine.

                  That's right, but at when you are deploying it with scripts it's considered local policy. Even though you can deploy it just as effectively as you would with Group policy.

                  Group Policy deploys it locally with scripts, too 😉

                  It works the same way, but according to Microsoft's terminology it is not the same thing.

                  According to two separate introduction articles to Group Policy, Microsoft defines it as utilizing AD. Until you utilize AD, it is really just local policy that is scripted.

                  https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh147307(v=ws.10).aspx

                  https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742376.aspx

                  Even Wikipedia's definition clearly defines that Group Policy uses AD

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_Policy

                  This is the fuzziness that I've been having even since Scott started saying that AD and GP have nothing to do with each other. While I do understand their are each their own components, but from an MS POV, they are part of a collective of things that most Windows admins consider one in the same.

                  Yes, it appears that Microsoft really wants to say that Local Group Policy is not Group Policy. I'll concede that point. From an IT perspective, though, the thing called "Group Policy" functionally exists without AD, but technically cannot have the name.

                  What I don't know is, does it exist in the home edition?

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ
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                    One thing is certain, Microsoft is not clear on the definition.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                      @Dashrender said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                      @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                      @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                      Group Policy is not limited to domains. You can use Group Policy manually at each machine.

                      That's right, but at when you are deploying it with scripts it's considered local policy. Even though you can deploy it just as effectively as you would with Group policy.

                      Group Policy deploys it locally with scripts, too 😉

                      It works the same way, but according to Microsoft's terminology it is not the same thing.

                      According to two separate introduction articles to Group Policy, Microsoft defines it as utilizing AD. Until you utilize AD, it is really just local policy that is scripted.

                      https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh147307(v=ws.10).aspx

                      https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742376.aspx

                      Even Wikipedia's definition clearly defines that Group Policy uses AD

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_Policy

                      This is the fuzziness that I've been having even since Scott started saying that AD and GP have nothing to do with each other. While I do understand their are each their own components, but from an MS POV, they are part of a collective of things that most Windows admins consider one in the same.

                      Yes, it appears that Microsoft really wants to say that Local Group Policy is not Group Policy. I'll concede that point. From an IT perspective, though, the thing called "Group Policy" functionally exists without AD, but technically cannot have the name.

                      What I don't know is, does it exist in the home edition?

                      Yes. It always has.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                        @IRJ said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                        One thing is certain, Microsoft is not clear on the definition.

                        🙂 Or they believe that "Local Group Policy" is not a form of "Group Policy" which seems... intentionally misleading?

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                        • openitO
                          openit
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                          Oops, this many posts till I came back 🙂

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @openit
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                            @openit said in Software restriction policy on Workgroup network ?:

                            Oops, this many posts till I came back 🙂

                            We all get busy. 😉

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