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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
      last edited by JaredBusch

      @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

      And trying to cover up that they are insolvent and unable to pay their bills.

      WTF? Insolvent?
      Way to jump the shark. Not paying and not being able to pay are different things. There is nothing about not being able to pay even hinted at in any of this.

      Reality is a shit place to be, it is true, but try staying there a bit more.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @JaredBusch said in MSP charged with extortion:

        @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

        And trying to cover up that they are insolvent and unable to pay their bills.

        WTF? Insolvent?
        Way to jump the shark. Not paying and not being able to pay are different things. There is nothing about not being able to pay even hinted at in any of this.

        Reality is a shit place to be, it is true, but try staying there a bit more.

        If you are a business and don't pay your bills, it means that your customers have to wonder if you can pay your bills. That's not something you do trivially because whether it is reality or not, it means that your customers start to wonder. It's a sign that something is very, very wrong and the most common cause is that the business is on the brink. It's an SMB, the average SMB is on the brink of insolvency at nearly all times - most go out of business in the first few years. SMBs that can't pay their bills are, most often, unable to do so. This is reality. Does one mean the other, no, that's why I didn't say that. Is it a strong indicator that that is the case? Absolutely. In the SMB world, it's a very strong indicator.

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        • L
          Lennertgenbr
          last edited by

          Wow, just read the article... This is unreal!
          It's the exact method as any business uses in case of non payment.

          I can't even think of a precedent because it's kind of like a custom πŸ˜› You don't pay, you don't use. It's common sense just like @scottalanmiller said before.

          You can't take a ride on the ferris wheel if you don't buy yourself a ticket..

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          • Minion QueenM
            Minion Queen Banned
            last edited by

            Don't forget if you can to help Jim out. I can't imagine his expenses to fight all of this right now. http://fnd.us/91CvBd?ref=sh_96SYSd

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @Minion Queen
              last edited by

              @Minion-Queen said in MSP charged with extortion:

              Don't forget if you can to help Jim out. I can't imagine his expenses to fight all of this right now. http://fnd.us/91CvBd?ref=sh_96SYSd

              Can someone add another tag or two? scam and donate

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              • Minion QueenM
                Minion Queen Banned @travisdh1
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                @travisdh1 said in MSP charged with extortion:

                @Minion-Queen said in MSP charged with extortion:

                Don't forget if you can to help Jim out. I can't imagine his expenses to fight all of this right now. http://fnd.us/91CvBd?ref=sh_96SYSd

                Can someone add another tag or two? scam and donate

                Done.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @Minion Queen
                  last edited by

                  @Minion-Queen said in MSP charged with extortion:

                  @travisdh1 said in MSP charged with extortion:

                  @Minion-Queen said in MSP charged with extortion:

                  Don't forget if you can to help Jim out. I can't imagine his expenses to fight all of this right now. http://fnd.us/91CvBd?ref=sh_96SYSd

                  Can someone add another tag or two? scam and donate

                  Done.

                  Great, I'll be able to find it when I get home tonight πŸ˜„

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                  • jimkJ
                    jimk
                    last edited by

                    I wanted to drop everyone a quick update. The case is still pending the initial hearing. We are really in a holding patter until then. We still need more funds for the legal battle. That is about all I can really say at the moment since everything is still pending.

                    I can't thank everyone enough for the support we are receiving from various communities and social feeds. Please continue to spread the word about the fund raising efforts on FundRazr.com.

                    https://fundrazr.com/MSPInjustice

                    Thanks,

                    Jim

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      Thanks for the update. Got the site shared on Twitter, G+ and Facebook.

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                      • jimkJ
                        jimk
                        last edited by

                        While there is still no update, I wanted to share a new story on MSPMentor.net with commentary from the arresting detective.
                        http://mspmentor.net/managed-services/msp-denies-destroying-office-365-data-nonpayment-flap

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @jimk
                          last edited by

                          @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                          While there is still no update, I wanted to share a new story on MSPMentor.net with commentary from the arresting detective.
                          http://mspmentor.net/managed-services/msp-denies-destroying-office-365-data-nonpayment-flap

                          β€œSo he can’t withhold their property,” Karic continued. β€œHe can withhold the service of it.”

                          Um, of course, and the service included the storage of it. Sounds like the sheriff's office just stated why it was proper to dispose of the data.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            Sounds like, from the article, that Karic did nothing to validate the claims and arrested without even attempting to verify evidence? But from Karic's own statements, even if there was evidence, it would not matter as the storage was the service and they didn't pay so there was no need to continue the service.

                            We'd need Karic's own versions to know, but MSP Mentor paints a pretty solid picture of corruption and crime in Forsythe County's sheriff's office. I bet we would find someone in the sheriff's office related to someone making money at the Chamber of Commerce.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Found a picture of the sheriff...

                              https://bookshelfbattle.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/tumblr_l9l2dvec6d1qate3qo1_400-2.jpg

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Honestly Jim, when this guy signed the contracts at the chamber of commerce, you should have known to have been wary.

                                0_1489585941412_boss-hog.jpg

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                                • RojoLocoR
                                  RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                  Found a picture of the sheriff...

                                  https://bookshelfbattle.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/tumblr_l9l2dvec6d1qate3qo1_400-2.jpg

                                  If you had ever been to Forsyth, you'd know how dead on this is.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
                                    last edited by

                                    @RojoLoco I've not been, and I still know πŸ˜‰

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ
                                      last edited by

                                      Any update on this?

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                                      • Minion QueenM
                                        Minion Queen Banned
                                        last edited by

                                        Last I knew he was still waiting to hear anything at all. The town is stalling 😞

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                                        • Reid CooperR
                                          Reid Cooper @Minion Queen
                                          last edited by

                                          @minion-queen said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                          Last I knew he was still waiting to hear anything at all. The town is stalling 😞

                                          That's how these things work. No need to have a real case, drive a business out of business using the legal system as a weapon. No due process, no need to even go to court.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            Serious reminder that corrption in America, having to pay off local officials, is just the same as it is in the third world.

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