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    Why IT Builds a House of Cards

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    businessarticlescott alan miller
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      StorageNinja Vendor @IRJ
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      @IRJ said in Why IT Builds a House of Cards:

      The moral of the story here is you get what you pay for. Every once in awhile you can get a rockstar IT person at $40K a year, but it doesn't really happen very often. Sure, many IT people go start out a $20k and work their way up ( I did), but they are going to view that $40K a year salary as a stepping stone with limited growth. Give them limited support (money and verbal) and the chances of having a dank network get even lower.

      $10 an hour to hire IT?!? You can make more waiting tables, or at a gas station. 40K isn't much better (Bartenders make more than this).

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        scottalanmiller @StorageNinja
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        @John-Nicholson said in Why IT Builds a House of Cards:

        @IRJ said in Why IT Builds a House of Cards:

        The moral of the story here is you get what you pay for. Every once in awhile you can get a rockstar IT person at $40K a year, but it doesn't really happen very often. Sure, many IT people go start out a $20k and work their way up ( I did), but they are going to view that $40K a year salary as a stepping stone with limited growth. Give them limited support (money and verbal) and the chances of having a dank network get even lower.

        $10 an hour to hire IT?!? You can make more waiting tables, or at a gas station. 40K isn't much better (Bartenders make more than this).

        Haven't been in SW much I take it. Tons of people complaining about earning less than gas station cashiers and fast food workers.

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          FiyaFly @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Why IT Builds a House of Cards:

          @John-Nicholson said in Why IT Builds a House of Cards:

          @IRJ said in Why IT Builds a House of Cards:

          The moral of the story here is you get what you pay for. Every once in awhile you can get a rockstar IT person at $40K a year, but it doesn't really happen very often. Sure, many IT people go start out a $20k and work their way up ( I did), but they are going to view that $40K a year salary as a stepping stone with limited growth. Give them limited support (money and verbal) and the chances of having a dank network get even lower.

          $10 an hour to hire IT?!? You can make more waiting tables, or at a gas station. 40K isn't much better (Bartenders make more than this).

          Haven't been in SW much I take it. Tons of people complaining about earning less than gas station cashiers and fast food workers.

          It's become rather common. Most of my jobs I have been severely underpaid. Not all, mind you, but most.

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            DustinB3403
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            Just to necro this thread, how would someone in IT actually get the business to see and understand these risks? I've tried this, explained in full detail the chances taken and I get a "thank you for telling us, but let's stay the course" sorts of responses.

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              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in Why IT Builds a House of Cards:

              Just to necro this thread, how would someone in IT actually get the business to see and understand these risks?

              Literally print out this article and hand it to them! 🙂

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                EddieJennings @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Why IT Builds a House of Cards:

                "thank you for telling us, but let's stay the course" sorts of responses.

                Not much you can do for that. As a teacher, I could teach all day, but there was no way for me to force a kid to learn.

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                  DustinB3403 @EddieJennings
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                  @EddieJennings Not even if you hit them with the book?

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                    scotth
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                    Try the rubber chicken. Worked for my geometry teacher

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                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in Why IT Builds a House of Cards:

                      @EddieJennings Not even if you hit them with the book?

                      That's tough, kids move fast.

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                        DustinB3403 @scotth
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                        @scotth said in Why IT Builds a House of Cards:

                        Try the rubber chicken. Worked for my geometry teacher

                        Well rubber chickens are way more aerodynamic than any book so that's a no brainer.

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                          scotth @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 Remember to answer the air gapped phone in the bottom right drawer. 🙂

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                            DustinB3403 @scotth
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                            @scotth said in Why IT Builds a House of Cards:

                            @DustinB3403 Remember to answer the air gapped phone in the bottom right drawer. 🙂

                            What?

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                              dafyre @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said in Why IT Builds a House of Cards:

                              Just to necro this thread, how would someone in IT actually get the business to see and understand these risks? I've tried this, explained in full detail the chances taken and I get a "thank you for telling us, but let's stay the course" sorts of responses.

                              So you stay the course while keeping your resume current,,, and then, when the proverbial crap hits the fan, you have the prime opportunity to say "I told you so!"

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                                scotth @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Why IT Builds a House of Cards:

                                @scotth said in Why IT Builds a House of Cards:

                                @DustinB3403 Remember to answer the air gapped phone in the bottom right drawer. 🙂

                                What?

                                Same geometry teacher would take out the rubber chicken, beat it on the desk and then pretend to answer the deskphone in his bottom right drawer. All I can say it that it got our attention.

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                                  FiyaFly @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said in Why IT Builds a House of Cards:

                                  Just to necro this thread, how would someone in IT actually get the business to see and understand these risks? I've tried this, explained in full detail the chances taken and I get a "thank you for telling us, but let's stay the course" sorts of responses.

                                  Thanks for the necro. Get greeted with a comment I didn't recall making, just to look at the date 2 1/2 years ago. lol.

                                  Then, on a second note, this article legitimately applies to me today.

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