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      Francesco Provino @wirestyle22
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      @wirestyle22 Oh, and there's something related to the hardware of the iPad, also… of course I cannot connect anything ethernet or serial, and this is a BIG downside when some support is required. Neither I can use an USB drive the right way: lack of support for filesystem, I cannot burn an iso etc.
      Way too inflexible for what I need. With a standard laptop I can install or virtualize any os and use at least standard usb, video output and ethernet.

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        scottalanmiller @Francesco Provino
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        @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

        @wirestyle22 Oh, and there's something related to the hardware of the iPad, also… of course I cannot connect anything ethernet or serial, and this is a BIG downside when some support is required. Neither I can use an USB drive the right way: lack of support for filesystem, I cannot burn an iso etc.
        Way too inflexible for what I need. With a standard laptop I can install or virtualize any os and use at least standard usb, video output and ethernet.

        Right, which is why I use a laptop. With a laptop I can type easily and whatever. But unless I'm all set up at a desk or whatever where the laptop makes sense, none of those other things would I be doing from a tablet.

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          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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          @wirestyle22 said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

          The keyboard case I have has always done well for me. What makes iOS unstable @scottalanmiller? Honest question. I have literally never had an issue

          Surface is unstable, iOS is what I recommend.

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            Minion Queen @Francesco Provino
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            @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

            @wirestyle22 Oh, and there's something related to the hardware of the iPad, also… of course I cannot connect anything ethernet or serial, and this is a BIG downside when some support is required. Neither I can use an USB drive the right way: lack of support for filesystem, I cannot burn an iso etc.
            Way too inflexible for what I need. With a standard laptop I can install or virtualize any os and use at least standard usb, video output and ethernet.

            You can't do Ethernet without the dock on the Surface either.

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            • Minion QueenM
              Minion Queen
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              And the dock is super heavy.

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                wirestyle22 @Minion Queen
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                @Minion-Queen said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                @wirestyle22 Oh, and there's something related to the hardware of the iPad, also… of course I cannot connect anything ethernet or serial, and this is a BIG downside when some support is required. Neither I can use an USB drive the right way: lack of support for filesystem, I cannot burn an iso etc.
                Way too inflexible for what I need. With a standard laptop I can install or virtualize any os and use at least standard usb, video output and ethernet.

                You can't do Ethernet without the dock on the Surface either.

                This is where I'm getting confused too. That was my understanding.

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                  Francesco Provino @Minion Queen
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                  @Minion-Queen said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                  @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                  @wirestyle22 Oh, and there's something related to the hardware of the iPad, also… of course I cannot connect anything ethernet or serial, and this is a BIG downside when some support is required. Neither I can use an USB drive the right way: lack of support for filesystem, I cannot burn an iso etc.
                  Way too inflexible for what I need. With a standard laptop I can install or virtualize any os and use at least standard usb, video output and ethernet.

                  You can't do Ethernet without the dock on the Surface either.

                  Uhm? What about a 10€ usb-to-ethernet adapter?

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                    wirestyle22 @Francesco Provino
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                    @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                    @Minion-Queen said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                    @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                    @wirestyle22 Oh, and there's something related to the hardware of the iPad, also… of course I cannot connect anything ethernet or serial, and this is a BIG downside when some support is required. Neither I can use an USB drive the right way: lack of support for filesystem, I cannot burn an iso etc.
                    Way too inflexible for what I need. With a standard laptop I can install or virtualize any os and use at least standard usb, video output and ethernet.

                    You can't do Ethernet without the dock on the Surface either.

                    Uhm? What about a 10€ usb-to-ethernet adapter?

                    Outside of attaching a USB device to a VM I can't think of why I'd ever want to do this. If you need that you should have a laptop with an actual NIC IMO.

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                    • Minion QueenM
                      Minion Queen
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                      The only Ports on the surface are :
                      full-size USB 3.0
                      microSD™ card reader
                      Surface Connect™
                      Headset jack
                      Mini DisplayPort

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                        scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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                        @Minion-Queen said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                        The only Ports on the surface are :
                        full-size USB 3.0
                        microSD™ card reader
                        Surface Connect™
                        Headset jack
                        Mini DisplayPort

                        USB 3 gives you basically anything.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Ethernet for iPad...

                          http://www.cultofmac.com/425400/when-wi-fi-is-out-use-ethernet-to-get-online-with-your-ipad/

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                            Minion Queen @Francesco Provino
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                            @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                            @Minion-Queen said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                            @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                            @wirestyle22 Oh, and there's something related to the hardware of the iPad, also… of course I cannot connect anything ethernet or serial, and this is a BIG downside when some support is required. Neither I can use an USB drive the right way: lack of support for filesystem, I cannot burn an iso etc.
                            Way too inflexible for what I need. With a standard laptop I can install or virtualize any os and use at least standard usb, video output and ethernet.

                            You can't do Ethernet without the dock on the Surface either.

                            Uhm? What about a 10€ usb-to-ethernet adapter?

                            Yeah I have tried those and they do not work great. And again as mentioned above the USB port doesn't work reliably on the Surface anyway .

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                              Francesco Provino @wirestyle22
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                              @wirestyle22 said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                              @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                              @Minion-Queen said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                              @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                              @wirestyle22 Oh, and there's something related to the hardware of the iPad, also… of course I cannot connect anything ethernet or serial, and this is a BIG downside when some support is required. Neither I can use an USB drive the right way: lack of support for filesystem, I cannot burn an iso etc.
                              Way too inflexible for what I need. With a standard laptop I can install or virtualize any os and use at least standard usb, video output and ethernet.

                              You can't do Ethernet without the dock on the Surface either.

                              Uhm? What about a 10€ usb-to-ethernet adapter?

                              Outside of attaching a USB device to a VM I can't think of why I'd ever want to do this. If you need that you should have a laptop with an actual NIC IMO.

                              Laptop without a real NIC are huge compared to the ultrabook standard of today. I can live with an ethernet adapter.

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                                scottalanmiller
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                                Serial console for iPad...

                                https://www.get-console.com/shop/

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                                  scottalanmiller @Francesco Provino
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                                  @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                                  @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                                  @Minion-Queen said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                                  @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                                  @wirestyle22 Oh, and there's something related to the hardware of the iPad, also… of course I cannot connect anything ethernet or serial, and this is a BIG downside when some support is required. Neither I can use an USB drive the right way: lack of support for filesystem, I cannot burn an iso etc.
                                  Way too inflexible for what I need. With a standard laptop I can install or virtualize any os and use at least standard usb, video output and ethernet.

                                  You can't do Ethernet without the dock on the Surface either.

                                  Uhm? What about a 10€ usb-to-ethernet adapter?

                                  Outside of attaching a USB device to a VM I can't think of why I'd ever want to do this. If you need that you should have a laptop with an actual NIC IMO.

                                  Laptop without a real NIC are huge compared to the ultrabook standard of today. I can live with an ethernet adapter.

                                  Are they? Even my older ultrabooks have a real NIC and are tiny. How small are ultrabooks today?

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                                  • Minion QueenM
                                    Minion Queen
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                                    Now the Ethernet for my Ipad has worked fine for me.

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                                      scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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                                      @Minion-Queen said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                                      @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                                      @Minion-Queen said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                                      @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                                      @wirestyle22 Oh, and there's something related to the hardware of the iPad, also… of course I cannot connect anything ethernet or serial, and this is a BIG downside when some support is required. Neither I can use an USB drive the right way: lack of support for filesystem, I cannot burn an iso etc.
                                      Way too inflexible for what I need. With a standard laptop I can install or virtualize any os and use at least standard usb, video output and ethernet.

                                      You can't do Ethernet without the dock on the Surface either.

                                      Uhm? What about a 10€ usb-to-ethernet adapter?

                                      Yeah I have tried those and they do not work great. And again as mentioned above the USB port doesn't work reliably on the Surface anyway .

                                      Right the fact that none of it actually works is the core issue.

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                                        Francesco Provino @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                                        Serial console for iPad...

                                        https://www.get-console.com/shop/

                                        I knew about it, it's sort of an hack :D.

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                                          scottalanmiller @Francesco Provino
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                                          @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                                          Serial console for iPad...

                                          https://www.get-console.com/shop/

                                          I knew about it, it's sort of an hack :D.

                                          So is the entire Surface, though. By that standard, you rule it out.

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                                            dafyre @Francesco Provino
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                                            @Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:

                                            Serial console for iPad...

                                            https://www.get-console.com/shop/

                                            I knew about it, it's sort of an hack :D.

                                            You'd need a USB-SERIAL converter for your laptop / ultrabook anyway.

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