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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Do they still sell Clappers?

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22
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        I know Nest (Wemo switch) makes something you might find useful. I vaguely remember some Nest hate on ML although I may be wrong. Any of the home automation stuff is typically really overpriced IMO.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Home automation - light switch:

          Do they still sell Clappers?

          Yes. Still on late night commercials too.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said in Home automation - light switch:

            @scottalanmiller said in Home automation - light switch:

            Do they still sell Clappers?

            Yes. Still on late night commercials too.

            But wait, there's more!

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @JaredBusch
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              @scottalanmiller said in Home automation - light switch:

              Do they still sell Clappers?

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in Home automation - light switch:

                @scottalanmiller said in Home automation - light switch:

                Do they still sell Clappers?

                0_1481040500418_upload-8ebdb00c-3e19-4a62-a098-e2083db2a536

                Do you have to take pills to get rid of that?

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                • thwrT
                  thwr @dafyre
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                  @dafyre said in Home automation - light switch:

                  @JaredBusch said in Home automation - light switch:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Home automation - light switch:

                  Do they still sell Clappers?

                  Yes. Still on late night commercials too.

                  But wait, there's more!

                  What's else is there? "Premium hotlines"?

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said in Home automation - light switch:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Home automation - light switch:

                    Do they still sell Clappers?

                    0_1481040500418_upload-8ebdb00c-3e19-4a62-a098-e2083db2a536

                    I had an idea to make one respond to the sound of racking the slide on a 1911 .45 pistol. Willing to bet that would sell well at gun shows.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @wirestyle22
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                      @wirestyle22 said in Home automation - light switch:

                      I know Nest (Wemo switch) makes something you might find useful. I vaguely remember some Nest hate on ML although I may be wrong. Any of the home automation stuff is typically really overpriced IMO.

                      yeah, no thanks to any Nest products.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender What was the issue with it? My friend has what I just linked and has no issues for over a year. That's the only reason I linked it.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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                          @wirestyle22 I thought Nest has had some major security issues with their equipment.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in Home automation - light switch:

                            @wirestyle22 I thought Nest has had some major security issues with their equipment.

                            Yeah, i was recalling the same - that's why they aren't on my list.

                            It's sad, they are a Google company... and they have horrible security.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
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                              Here is one article on the Nest Thermostat (from March of 2015)

                              I'm not willing to dig to much further into the issues, but I thought they had some other very serious issues, like using a root password of password or 123123 among other issues.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Home automation - light switch:

                                @wirestyle22 I thought Nest has had some major security issues with their equipment.

                                I remember it being "bad" but didn't remember why. That makes sense.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
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                                  Here is another article from earlier this year about Nest equipment leaking the whereabouts of the home owner..

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    I just found this from Blackhat study of the devices. It's a pdf.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                      last edited by

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Home automation - light switch:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Home automation - light switch:

                                      @wirestyle22 I thought Nest has had some major security issues with their equipment.

                                      I remember it being "bad" but didn't remember why. That makes sense.

                                      Security but also cost and weird lack of control.

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                                      • thwrT
                                        thwr @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Home automation - light switch:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Home automation - light switch:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Home automation - light switch:

                                        @wirestyle22 I thought Nest has had some major security issues with their equipment.

                                        I remember it being "bad" but didn't remember why. That makes sense.

                                        Security but also cost and weird lack of control.

                                        That's why I suggested to build something on top of AMQP:

                                        • Transport layer security (TLS, SSH/VPN tunnel, ...)
                                        • Built-in authentication
                                        • Can easily be extended (depending on what you are doing, a simple form of AMQP just sends plain strings (JSON for example) from A to B.
                                        • Built-in message routing (one sender, multiple recipients): Sender invokes a message like "CMD|LIGHT|ON" to a "message exchange" with the following topic: "HOUSE1.KITCHEN.LIGHT". Topics are something multiple recipients can subscribe to. For example, the light switch in the kitchen subscribes to "HOUSE1.KITCHEN.LIGHT" while a central logger subscribes to ..LIGHT to log all messages regarding light switches.
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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @thwr
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                                          @thwr said in Home automation - light switch:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Home automation - light switch:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Home automation - light switch:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Home automation - light switch:

                                          @wirestyle22 I thought Nest has had some major security issues with their equipment.

                                          I remember it being "bad" but didn't remember why. That makes sense.

                                          Security but also cost and weird lack of control.

                                          That's why I suggested to build something on top of AMQP:

                                          • Transport layer security (TLS, SSH/VPN tunnel, ...)
                                          • Built-in authentication
                                          • Can easily be extended (depending on what you are doing, a simple form of AMQP just sends plain strings (JSON for example) from A to B.
                                          • Built-in message routing (one sender, multiple recipients): Sender invokes a message like "CMD|LIGHT|ON" to a "message exchange" with the following topic: "HOUSE1.KITCHEN.LIGHT". Topics are something multiple recipients can subscribe to. For example, the light switch in the kitchen subscribes to "HOUSE1.KITCHEN.LIGHT" while a central logger subscribes to ..LIGHT to log all messages regarding light switches.

                                          For you programming nerds, that's great, I'm not one 🙂

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                                          • DominicaD
                                            Dominica
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                                            Too late, in my brain, Dash is now using clappers for every light in his house, and starring in infomercials.

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