Home automation - light switch
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@travisdh1 said in Home automation - light switch:
@Dashrender said in Home automation - light switch:
@travisdh1 said in Home automation - light switch:
If you're me, you do it yourself, probably with these two items for less than $20 and a little bit of programming.
Adafruit HUZZAH ESP8266
120V RelayI'm sure others will have easier, ready-built solutions tho. Me and @thwr actually enjoy this stuff.
ROFLOL - dude, I am not a coder - I have no desire to write my own android app to control this.
Yeah, like I said, someone else probably knows a much easier way
I'm planning to use my old rPi2 to run a webserver that does the communications with those ESP8266 boards. Who needs an app when you can make something that everything can access?
For a single light, I would probably use a Philips Hue. Too much effort to built something yourself (e.g. installing relays, controllers etc.).
For something bigger, I would
- install a central RabbitMQ broker (aka server, maybe on a Banana M3 using its non-USB attached SATA port to connect a SSD)
- Run a webserver on the Banana with a little webpage to show the states of each light and to provide switches to switch on/off specific lights
- Find some way to let the microcontrollers talk MQTT to the server without wiring (meshed ZigBee, Bluetooth LE, WiFi)
- Attach solid state relay modules to the uCs (benefit: they are way more reliable than mechanical relays)
- Install that package somehow in the hole of the lightswitch (hope you know what I mean. Just try to translate "Unterputzdose"
Should be a good and affordable solution. There are some projects out there to unify the way devices can talk to each other, but I didn't look into any of them yet. On the other hand, MQTT/AMQP are both great protocols which can easily get the job done without much of a hassle.
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Do they still sell Clappers?
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I know Nest (Wemo switch) makes something you might find useful. I vaguely remember some Nest hate on ML although I may be wrong. Any of the home automation stuff is typically really overpriced IMO.
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@scottalanmiller said in Home automation - light switch:
Do they still sell Clappers?
Yes. Still on late night commercials too.
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@JaredBusch said in Home automation - light switch:
@scottalanmiller said in Home automation - light switch:
Do they still sell Clappers?
Yes. Still on late night commercials too.
But wait, there's more!
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@JaredBusch said in Home automation - light switch:
@scottalanmiller said in Home automation - light switch:
Do they still sell Clappers?
Do you have to take pills to get rid of that?
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@dafyre said in Home automation - light switch:
@JaredBusch said in Home automation - light switch:
@scottalanmiller said in Home automation - light switch:
Do they still sell Clappers?
Yes. Still on late night commercials too.
But wait, there's more!
What's else is there? "Premium hotlines"?
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@JaredBusch said in Home automation - light switch:
@scottalanmiller said in Home automation - light switch:
Do they still sell Clappers?
I had an idea to make one respond to the sound of racking the slide on a 1911 .45 pistol. Willing to bet that would sell well at gun shows.
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@wirestyle22 said in Home automation - light switch:
I know Nest (Wemo switch) makes something you might find useful. I vaguely remember some Nest hate on ML although I may be wrong. Any of the home automation stuff is typically really overpriced IMO.
yeah, no thanks to any Nest products.
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@Dashrender What was the issue with it? My friend has what I just linked and has no issues for over a year. That's the only reason I linked it.
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@wirestyle22 I thought Nest has had some major security issues with their equipment.
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@DustinB3403 said in Home automation - light switch:
@wirestyle22 I thought Nest has had some major security issues with their equipment.
Yeah, i was recalling the same - that's why they aren't on my list.
It's sad, they are a Google company... and they have horrible security.
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Here is one article on the Nest Thermostat (from March of 2015)
I'm not willing to dig to much further into the issues, but I thought they had some other very serious issues, like using a root password of password or 123123 among other issues.
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@DustinB3403 said in Home automation - light switch:
@wirestyle22 I thought Nest has had some major security issues with their equipment.
I remember it being "bad" but didn't remember why. That makes sense.
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Here is another article from earlier this year about Nest equipment leaking the whereabouts of the home owner..
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I just found this from Blackhat study of the devices. It's a pdf.
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@wirestyle22 said in Home automation - light switch:
@DustinB3403 said in Home automation - light switch:
@wirestyle22 I thought Nest has had some major security issues with their equipment.
I remember it being "bad" but didn't remember why. That makes sense.
Security but also cost and weird lack of control.
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@scottalanmiller said in Home automation - light switch:
@wirestyle22 said in Home automation - light switch:
@DustinB3403 said in Home automation - light switch:
@wirestyle22 I thought Nest has had some major security issues with their equipment.
I remember it being "bad" but didn't remember why. That makes sense.
Security but also cost and weird lack of control.
That's why I suggested to build something on top of AMQP:
- Transport layer security (TLS, SSH/VPN tunnel, ...)
- Built-in authentication
- Can easily be extended (depending on what you are doing, a simple form of AMQP just sends plain strings (JSON for example) from A to B.
- Built-in message routing (one sender, multiple recipients): Sender invokes a message like "CMD|LIGHT|ON" to a "message exchange" with the following topic: "HOUSE1.KITCHEN.LIGHT". Topics are something multiple recipients can subscribe to. For example, the light switch in the kitchen subscribes to "HOUSE1.KITCHEN.LIGHT" while a central logger subscribes to ..LIGHT to log all messages regarding light switches.
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@thwr said in Home automation - light switch:
@scottalanmiller said in Home automation - light switch:
@wirestyle22 said in Home automation - light switch:
@DustinB3403 said in Home automation - light switch:
@wirestyle22 I thought Nest has had some major security issues with their equipment.
I remember it being "bad" but didn't remember why. That makes sense.
Security but also cost and weird lack of control.
That's why I suggested to build something on top of AMQP:
- Transport layer security (TLS, SSH/VPN tunnel, ...)
- Built-in authentication
- Can easily be extended (depending on what you are doing, a simple form of AMQP just sends plain strings (JSON for example) from A to B.
- Built-in message routing (one sender, multiple recipients): Sender invokes a message like "CMD|LIGHT|ON" to a "message exchange" with the following topic: "HOUSE1.KITCHEN.LIGHT". Topics are something multiple recipients can subscribe to. For example, the light switch in the kitchen subscribes to "HOUSE1.KITCHEN.LIGHT" while a central logger subscribes to ..LIGHT to log all messages regarding light switches.
For you programming nerds, that's great, I'm not one
