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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @ChrisL
      last edited by

      @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

      @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

      No, Windows phone isn't likely to do that, it's already a dead platform. BlackBerry got in early and built their reputation before iPhone and Android were around. Windows Phone is already on its way out, not on its way up. Microsoft has been actively phasing it out themselves (whether in mind share, apps, development, accessories, etc.) There will always be some IT manager with a personal agenda that will do something incredibly foolish to make deployments keep happening here and there. This is only news because the decision was so ridiculous, not because it shows Windows Phone adoption increasing. It actually shows the opposite, that adoption is so low now that a single police department choosing it is so absurd as to qualify as news.

      Totally--that's why I was surprised to see this decision. I didn't know if MS was making a concerted effort at going after that market now that there was somewhat of a "hole" there.

      I bet this was not MS going after them.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @ChrisL
        last edited by

        @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

        @stacksofplates said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

        I doubt it. http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11333378/microsoft-windows-phone-windows-mobile-plans

        "...there will be a time for it to be our focus, but right now it's part of the family but it's not the core of where I hope to generate developer interest over the next year"

        They really kinda hurt themselves by not aggressively going after app developers early on, and they got the reputation of "not having apps" on their platform.

        They did go after developers, but they had nothing to offer them. Not having apps was bad, being loaded with scam apps and promoting them as the real apps and no usable app store, those were the killers that I saw. That and pointless or negative features being touted and nothing of value to users.

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        • ChrisLC
          ChrisL @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

          @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

          @stacksofplates said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

          I doubt it. http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11333378/microsoft-windows-phone-windows-mobile-plans

          "...there will be a time for it to be our focus, but right now it's part of the family but it's not the core of where I hope to generate developer interest over the next year"

          They really kinda hurt themselves by not aggressively going after app developers early on, and they got the reputation of "not having apps" on their platform.

          They did go after developers, but they had nothing to offer them. Not having apps was bad, being loaded with scam apps and promoting them as the real apps and no usable app store, those were the killers that I saw. That and pointless or negative features being touted and nothing of value to users.

          "Do you love Instagram? Well, you'll love Instagram For Windows, made by BleepBloop Studios."

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @SamieWalters
            last edited by

            @SamieWalters said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

            I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

            Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

            Lucky police department. Even stripped down I bet those cars will be nice.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

              @SamieWalters said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

              I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

              Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

              Lucky police department. Even stripped down I bet those cars will be nice.

              Tesla are perfect for that. Big enough to haul lots of people, fast enough to catch anything.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                last edited by DustinB3403

                @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                @SamieWalters said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

                Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

                Lucky police department. Even stripped down I bet those cars will be nice.

                Tesla are perfect for that. Big enough to haul lots of people, fast enough to catch anything.

                Big enough to haul lots? What is your definition of "lots"

                Most of the cars they sell are 4-5 people (2 front 3 elbow to elbow in the back) which is fine for police purposes (I don't disagree)

                But it's not a bus hauling 52 people.

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                • mlnewsM
                  mlnews @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                  @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                  @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                  @SamieWalters said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                  I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

                  Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

                  Lucky police department. Even stripped down I bet those cars will be nice.

                  Tesla are perfect for that. Big enough to haul lots of people, fast enough to catch anything.

                  Big enough to haul lots? What is your definition of "lots"

                  Most of the cars they sell are 4-5 people (2 front 3 elbow to elbow in the back) which is fine for police purposes (I don't disagree)

                  But it's not a bus hauling 52 people.

                  Tesla can do up to 7 in their sedan model. More than any police "car" on the market.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @mlnews
                    last edited by

                    @mlnews said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                    @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                    @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                    @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                    @SamieWalters said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                    I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

                    Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

                    Lucky police department. Even stripped down I bet those cars will be nice.

                    Tesla are perfect for that. Big enough to haul lots of people, fast enough to catch anything.

                    Big enough to haul lots? What is your definition of "lots"

                    Most of the cars they sell are 4-5 people (2 front 3 elbow to elbow in the back) which is fine for police purposes (I don't disagree)

                    But it's not a bus hauling 52 people.

                    Tesla can do up to 7 in their sedan model. More than any police "car" on the market.

                    I've not looked at the sedans (or much of the product line besides the show stoppers) but 7 people is a pretty large person count.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                      @mlnews said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                      @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                      @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                      @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                      @SamieWalters said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                      I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

                      Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

                      Lucky police department. Even stripped down I bet those cars will be nice.

                      Tesla are perfect for that. Big enough to haul lots of people, fast enough to catch anything.

                      Big enough to haul lots? What is your definition of "lots"

                      Most of the cars they sell are 4-5 people (2 front 3 elbow to elbow in the back) which is fine for police purposes (I don't disagree)

                      But it's not a bus hauling 52 people.

                      Tesla can do up to 7 in their sedan model. More than any police "car" on the market.

                      I've not looked at the sedans (or much of the product line besides the show stoppers) but 7 people is a pretty large person count.

                      THey are a much bigger vehicle than you would imagine. They are enormous inside. It's really a 5+2 design, but it's so big.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        huh, 7 seats, all the quick pictures on Google show only kids in the very back seats. I suppose in a pinch, probably not really needed for a typical squad car though.

                        Does that thing have a front based 'trunk' then?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                          huh, 7 seats, all the quick pictures on Google show only kids in the very back seats. I suppose in a pinch, probably not really needed for a typical squad car though.

                          That's what a 5+2 means. 5 adults, 2 kids.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                            Does that thing have a front based 'trunk' then?

                            Yes, and it is huge.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                              @Dashrender said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                              Does that thing have a front based 'trunk' then?

                              Yes, and it is huge.

                              So front end crash wipes out the onboard video storage. lol

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @ChrisL
                                last edited by

                                @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                @stacksofplates said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                I doubt it. http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11333378/microsoft-windows-phone-windows-mobile-plans

                                "...there will be a time for it to be our focus, but right now it's part of the family but it's not the core of where I hope to generate developer interest over the next year"

                                They really kinda hurt themselves by not aggressively going after app developers early on, and they got the reputation of "not having apps" on their platform.

                                They did go after developers, but they had nothing to offer them. Not having apps was bad, being loaded with scam apps and promoting them as the real apps and no usable app store, those were the killers that I saw. That and pointless or negative features being touted and nothing of value to users.

                                "Do you love Instagram? Well, you'll love Instagram For Windows, made by BleepBloop Studios."

                                Hey to be fair WP had Instagram. It was just perpetually in beta. I haven't looked but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a beta.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @stacksofplates
                                  last edited by

                                  @stacksofplates said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                  @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                  @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                  @stacksofplates said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                  I doubt it. http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11333378/microsoft-windows-phone-windows-mobile-plans

                                  "...there will be a time for it to be our focus, but right now it's part of the family but it's not the core of where I hope to generate developer interest over the next year"

                                  They really kinda hurt themselves by not aggressively going after app developers early on, and they got the reputation of "not having apps" on their platform.

                                  They did go after developers, but they had nothing to offer them. Not having apps was bad, being loaded with scam apps and promoting them as the real apps and no usable app store, those were the killers that I saw. That and pointless or negative features being touted and nothing of value to users.

                                  "Do you love Instagram? Well, you'll love Instagram For Windows, made by BleepBloop Studios."

                                  Hey to be fair WP had Instagram. It was just perpetually in beta. I haven't looked but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a beta.

                                  I thought I heard it was officially released, but then again, I've never used instragram.. so I don't care. 🙂

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                    @stacksofplates said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                    @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                    @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                    @stacksofplates said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                    I doubt it. http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11333378/microsoft-windows-phone-windows-mobile-plans

                                    "...there will be a time for it to be our focus, but right now it's part of the family but it's not the core of where I hope to generate developer interest over the next year"

                                    They really kinda hurt themselves by not aggressively going after app developers early on, and they got the reputation of "not having apps" on their platform.

                                    They did go after developers, but they had nothing to offer them. Not having apps was bad, being loaded with scam apps and promoting them as the real apps and no usable app store, those were the killers that I saw. That and pointless or negative features being touted and nothing of value to users.

                                    "Do you love Instagram? Well, you'll love Instagram For Windows, made by BleepBloop Studios."

                                    Hey to be fair WP had Instagram. It was just perpetually in beta. I haven't looked but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a beta.

                                    I thought I heard it was officially released, but then again, I've never used instragram.. so I don't care. 🙂

                                    HOw could you have, you have a Windows Phone. Instagram is a phone only application.

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                      @Dashrender said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                      @stacksofplates said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                      @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                      @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                      @stacksofplates said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                      I doubt it. http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11333378/microsoft-windows-phone-windows-mobile-plans

                                      "...there will be a time for it to be our focus, but right now it's part of the family but it's not the core of where I hope to generate developer interest over the next year"

                                      They really kinda hurt themselves by not aggressively going after app developers early on, and they got the reputation of "not having apps" on their platform.

                                      They did go after developers, but they had nothing to offer them. Not having apps was bad, being loaded with scam apps and promoting them as the real apps and no usable app store, those were the killers that I saw. That and pointless or negative features being touted and nothing of value to users.

                                      "Do you love Instagram? Well, you'll love Instagram For Windows, made by BleepBloop Studios."

                                      Hey to be fair WP had Instagram. It was just perpetually in beta. I haven't looked but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a beta.

                                      I thought I heard it was officially released, but then again, I've never used instragram.. so I don't care. 🙂

                                      HOw could you have, you have a Windows Phone. Instagram is a phone only application.

                                      It was still in the app store (or whatever they call it). It just said "BETA" beside it. No video ability and the UI was pretty bad.

                                      It's pretty bad when a single guy (Rudy something or other) makes better apps on WP than the companies do. He made an Instagram app, snapchat (till they shut it down), 9gag, and some others.

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                        @SamieWalters said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                        I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

                                        Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

                                        Lucky police department. Even stripped down I bet those cars will be nice.

                                        Tesla are perfect for that. Big enough to haul lots of people, fast enough to catch anything.

                                        Really? What's their top speed? Most electric cars take off like a bat out of hell as they produce full torque at low speeds, but also tend to top out at a slower speed than other vehicles. I don't know the top end for the different Tesla models off the top of my head. Keep in mind that anyone they'll be chasing will be competent enough to disable the 120mph factory limit mandated in Merica.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                                          last edited by

                                          @travisdh1 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                          @SamieWalters said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                          I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

                                          Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

                                          Lucky police department. Even stripped down I bet those cars will be nice.

                                          Tesla are perfect for that. Big enough to haul lots of people, fast enough to catch anything.

                                          Really? What's their top speed? Most electric cars take off like a bat out of hell as they produce full torque at low speeds, but also tend to top out at a slower speed than other vehicles. I don't know the top end for the different Tesla models off the top of my head. Keep in mind that anyone they'll be chasing will be competent enough to disable the 120mph factory limit mandated in Merica.

                                          Same thing with the Teslas... their governors will be removed. Nothing will effectively be able to outrun them in Los Angeles. This is LAPD, not California Patrol. No need for long distances or high top end speeds in the city. But 200 mph wouldn't be surprising on those things. There is no electric car on the market like them.

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                                          • RojoLocoR
                                            RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                            @travisdh1 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                            @SamieWalters said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                            I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

                                            Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

                                            Lucky police department. Even stripped down I bet those cars will be nice.

                                            Tesla are perfect for that. Big enough to haul lots of people, fast enough to catch anything.

                                            Really? What's their top speed? Most electric cars take off like a bat out of hell as they produce full torque at low speeds, but also tend to top out at a slower speed than other vehicles. I don't know the top end for the different Tesla models off the top of my head. Keep in mind that anyone they'll be chasing will be competent enough to disable the 120mph factory limit mandated in Merica.

                                            Same thing with the Teslas... their governors will be removed. Nothing will effectively be able to outrun them in Los Angeles. This is LAPD, not California Patrol. No need for long distances or high top end speeds in the city. But 200 mph wouldn't be surprising on those things. There is no electric car on the market like them.

                                            Yup, the model S is a world class luxury performance car that also happens to be electric. It compares favorably to any refined European sport sedan, both in performance and comfort.

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