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    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      Haha...... um the topic and subsequent deletion seem to answer it...

      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1957133-can-win7-be-installed-on-hp-proliant-server-ml10-gen9

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        A tiny OBR5 with WD Green 1TB 5400 drives, has gone belly up. The OP is looking to restore the system, but seems to be getting incorrect information.

        I don't want to get involved..... Buffalo NAS and support seem to be bad enough. Not to mention the system design.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
          last edited by JaredBusch

          @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

          A tiny OBR5 with WD Green 1TB 5400 drives, has gone belly up. The OP is looking to restore the system, but seems to be getting incorrect information.

          I don't want to get involved..... Buffalo NAS and support seem to be bad enough. Not to mention the system design.

          RAID5 on a backup target is a solid use of drive space. Now, I would agree that with disk prices today, there is no reason for it, but there is nothing wrong with it, as long as you understand and accept the downsides of RAID5

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said in I can't even:

            @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

            A tiny OBR5 with WD Green 1TB 5400 drives, has gone belly up. The OP is looking to restore the system, but seems to be getting incorrect information.

            I don't want to get involved..... Buffalo NAS and support seem to be bad enough. Not to mention the system design.

            RAID5 on a backup target is a solid use of drive space. Now, I would agree that with disk prices today, there is no reason for it, but there is nothing wrong with it, as long as you understand and accept the downsides of RAID5

            Are you assuming this guy has a secondary backup? If this is his only backup I think redundancy becomes more important than cost. What is the point of having a backup that fails past a single hard drive failure? Seems really risky to me. Asking to learn the reasoning

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @wirestyle22
              last edited by

              @wirestyle22 said in I can't even:

              @JaredBusch said in I can't even:

              @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

              A tiny OBR5 with WD Green 1TB 5400 drives, has gone belly up. The OP is looking to restore the system, but seems to be getting incorrect information.

              I don't want to get involved..... Buffalo NAS and support seem to be bad enough. Not to mention the system design.

              RAID5 on a backup target is a solid use of drive space. Now, I would agree that with disk prices today, there is no reason for it, but there is nothing wrong with it, as long as you understand and accept the downsides of RAID5

              Are you assuming this guy has a secondary backup? If this is his only backup I think redundancy becomes more important than cost. What is the point of having a backup that fails past a single hard drive failure? Seems really risky to me. Asking to learn the reasoning

              Because it IS a backup. You do not need a backup to survive past a single drive failure.

              You have reliability and redundancy on the primary system. You do not need it on the backup.

              Additionally, this is a on site backup (we assume, because it was never stated), and that means there should also be an offsite already.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @JaredBusch said in I can't even:

                @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

                A tiny OBR5 with WD Green 1TB 5400 drives, has gone belly up. The OP is looking to restore the system, but seems to be getting incorrect information.

                I don't want to get involved..... Buffalo NAS and support seem to be bad enough. Not to mention the system design.

                RAID5 on a backup target is a solid use of drive space. Now, I would agree that with disk prices today, there is no reason for it, but there is nothing wrong with it, as long as you understand and accept the downsides of RAID5

                Oh I don't disagree, I just can't even get involved with the issues. Buffalo Terastation, and then the compounded issues of drive choice etc.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                  last edited by JaredBusch

                  @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

                  @JaredBusch said in I can't even:

                  @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

                  A tiny OBR5 with WD Green 1TB 5400 drives, has gone belly up. The OP is looking to restore the system, but seems to be getting incorrect information.

                  I don't want to get involved..... Buffalo NAS and support seem to be bad enough. Not to mention the system design.

                  RAID5 on a backup target is a solid use of drive space. Now, I would agree that with disk prices today, there is no reason for it, but there is nothing wrong with it, as long as you understand and accept the downsides of RAID5

                  Oh I don't disagree, I just can't even get involved with the issues. Buffalo Terastation, and then the compounded issues of drive choice etc.

                  You got involved, you cross posted it here and derided it. Do you think people at SW do not know that you did so? You are mistaken.

                  Edit for clarity: We all talk about threads from elsewhere all the time, but you consistently cross post from SW intentionally to deride them.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch fair point....

                    But you made this thread for the very purpose.

                    I won't get involved and even attempt to assist.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

                      @JaredBusch fair point....

                      But you made this thread for the very purpose.

                      I won't get involved and even attempt to assist.

                      I did, and I am quite aware of what thread this is.
                      But note my point about consistently.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch So you're bashing is different than mine, because of the volume of it?

                        Seems like the pot calling the kettle black.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by DustinB3403

                          So this one is a bit mind boggling.... Can I format the OS partition to change from FAT32 to NTFS and keep things in working order?

                          No... just no. Don't attempt this.

                          Second... you need to virtualize.

                          Third just setup a new DC and migrate the roles before you do anything. Attempting this will likely break the DC.

                          Also you only have a single DC?!

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
                            Maybe I was dreaming it.
                            It would have been a decade or more ago.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                              I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
                              Maybe I was dreaming it.
                              It would have been a decade or more ago.

                              There used to be one to go from Fat16 to Fat32. I don't remember any that would go from Fat32 to NTFS.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                                I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
                                Maybe I was dreaming it.
                                It would have been a decade or more ago.

                                Wouldn't converting live file systems grind the system to a hault anyway or am I crazy?

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @wirestyle22
                                  last edited by dafyre

                                  @wirestyle22 said in I can't even:

                                  @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                                  I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
                                  Maybe I was dreaming it.
                                  It would have been a decade or more ago.

                                  Wouldn't converting live file systems grind the system to a hault anyway or am I crazy?

                                  The tools I am thinking of were not live converters.

                                  http://www.tweakandtrick.com/2012/02/convert-fat32-to-ntfs-file-system.html

                                  That will do a conversion. Not sure if it does boot volume or not.

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @dafyre
                                    last edited by

                                    @dafyre said in I can't even:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in I can't even:

                                    @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                                    I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
                                    Maybe I was dreaming it.
                                    It would have been a decade or more ago.

                                    Wouldn't converting live file systems grind the system to a hault anyway or am I crazy?

                                    The tools I am thinking of were not live converters.

                                    http://www.tweakandtrick.com/2012/02/convert-fat32-to-ntfs-file-system.html

                                    That will do a conversion. Not sure if it does boot volume or not.

                                    Ah I see

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                                      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                        This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                                        https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                                        My only "defense" is that when you start out interacting with you, and some others, it does feel like people are being a bit aggressive and ... whatever.

                                        It's not the case. I'm just saying it's probably a common first reaction.

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                          This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                                          https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                                          Wonder if I'll get any comments on my one word answer.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            @BRRABill said in I can't even:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                            This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                                            https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                                            My only "defense" is that when you start out interacting with you, and some others, it does feel like people are being a bit aggressive and ... whatever.

                                            It's not the case. I'm just saying it's probably a common first reaction.

                                            Yeah, but he's supposed to be an IT guy. He should be looking for vetting of his ideas every day. Who cares that I sound aggressive? I didn't call him stupid, I pointed out how to fix his mistakes so that he could not get fired.

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