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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
      last edited by

      @JaredBusch So you're bashing is different than mine, because of the volume of it?

      Seems like the pot calling the kettle black.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by DustinB3403

        So this one is a bit mind boggling.... Can I format the OS partition to change from FAT32 to NTFS and keep things in working order?

        No... just no. Don't attempt this.

        Second... you need to virtualize.

        Third just setup a new DC and migrate the roles before you do anything. Attempting this will likely break the DC.

        Also you only have a single DC?!

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
          Maybe I was dreaming it.
          It would have been a decade or more ago.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said in I can't even:

            I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
            Maybe I was dreaming it.
            It would have been a decade or more ago.

            There used to be one to go from Fat16 to Fat32. I don't remember any that would go from Fat32 to NTFS.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said in I can't even:

              I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
              Maybe I was dreaming it.
              It would have been a decade or more ago.

              Wouldn't converting live file systems grind the system to a hault anyway or am I crazy?

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @wirestyle22
                last edited by dafyre

                @wirestyle22 said in I can't even:

                @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
                Maybe I was dreaming it.
                It would have been a decade or more ago.

                Wouldn't converting live file systems grind the system to a hault anyway or am I crazy?

                The tools I am thinking of were not live converters.

                http://www.tweakandtrick.com/2012/02/convert-fat32-to-ntfs-file-system.html

                That will do a conversion. Not sure if it does boot volume or not.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @dafyre
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                  @dafyre said in I can't even:

                  @wirestyle22 said in I can't even:

                  @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                  I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
                  Maybe I was dreaming it.
                  It would have been a decade or more ago.

                  Wouldn't converting live file systems grind the system to a hault anyway or am I crazy?

                  The tools I am thinking of were not live converters.

                  http://www.tweakandtrick.com/2012/02/convert-fat32-to-ntfs-file-system.html

                  That will do a conversion. Not sure if it does boot volume or not.

                  Ah I see

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                    https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                      This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                      My only "defense" is that when you start out interacting with you, and some others, it does feel like people are being a bit aggressive and ... whatever.

                      It's not the case. I'm just saying it's probably a common first reaction.

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                        This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                        https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                        Wonder if I'll get any comments on my one word answer.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said in I can't even:

                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                          This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                          https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                          My only "defense" is that when you start out interacting with you, and some others, it does feel like people are being a bit aggressive and ... whatever.

                          It's not the case. I'm just saying it's probably a common first reaction.

                          Yeah, but he's supposed to be an IT guy. He should be looking for vetting of his ideas every day. Who cares that I sound aggressive? I didn't call him stupid, I pointed out how to fix his mistakes so that he could not get fired.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by Dashrender

                            all we can really do is LOL.

                            Actually that's not true - this guy has preconceived notions that need to be challenged. No different than I did when I joined SW years ago. I'm guessing he's missing the understanding of why RAID 5 is bad for HDDs these days (just like I was), definitely seems to not understand how the Storage Spaces works, etc.

                            Now Scott loves to assume that everyone is as brilliant as he is, and that they automatically know that Storage Spaces is the rebanded MS Software RAID. The reality is that many don't. And he, like many others, my have run MS RAID in the past and were part of the fortunate ones that never had a problem with it. So, like those that believe they have HA because they have a SAN and they've never had outage continue to believe in that single SAN solution as viable for HA, we know from understanding real failure domains that it's not HA.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                              @BRRABill said in I can't even:

                              @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                              This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                              https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                              My only "defense" is that when you start out interacting with you, and some others, it does feel like people are being a bit aggressive and ... whatever.

                              It's not the case. I'm just saying it's probably a common first reaction.

                              Yeah, but he's supposed to be an IT guy. He should be looking for vetting of his ideas every day. Who cares that I sound aggressive? I didn't call him stupid, I pointed out how to fix his mistakes so that he could not get fired.

                              There's no need to be aggressive with me.

                              I'm outta here.

                              LOL.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                @BRRABill said in I can't even:

                                @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                                https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                                My only "defense" is that when you start out interacting with you, and some others, it does feel like people are being a bit aggressive and ... whatever.

                                It's not the case. I'm just saying it's probably a common first reaction.

                                Yeah, but he's supposed to be an IT guy. He should be looking for vetting of his ideas every day. Who cares that I sound aggressive? I didn't call him stupid, I pointed out how to fix his mistakes so that he could not get fired.

                                I'd almost have to say that most generalist don't fit Scott's definition of an IT guy, and possible not even a more generally accepted definition either. more often than not, generalists don't do research, they call up on the sales guy to sell him something that he can then sell to management.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                                  all we can really do is LOL.

                                  Actually that's not true - this guy has preconceived notions that need to be challenged. No different than I did when I joined SW years ago. I'm guessing he's missing the understanding of why RAID 5 is bad for HDDs these days (just like I was), definitely seems to not understand how the Storage Spaces works, etc.

                                  The problem is, he does the misdirection thing. Instead of saying "I don't understand" or "can you clarify" or "I don't agree" he pulls out a "I know this doesn't matter because of this unrelated thing" to try to make it sound like he knows why it's okay but demonstrates that he's attempting to make someone (maybe his boss) think he has an answer that he doesn't. He's not even acknowledging the advice, he's ignoring it in an aggressive way.

                                  Like the iSCSI. We say "this isn't safe." He answers "I think it's fast enough." WTF

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                    @BRRABill said in I can't even:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                    This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                                    https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                                    My only "defense" is that when you start out interacting with you, and some others, it does feel like people are being a bit aggressive and ... whatever.

                                    It's not the case. I'm just saying it's probably a common first reaction.

                                    Yeah, but he's supposed to be an IT guy. He should be looking for vetting of his ideas every day. Who cares that I sound aggressive? I didn't call him stupid, I pointed out how to fix his mistakes so that he could not get fired.

                                    I'd almost have to say that most generalist don't fit Scott's definition of an IT guy, and possible not even a more generally accepted definition either. more often than not, generalists don't do research, they call up on the sales guy to sell him something that he can then sell to management.

                                    Well, that wouldn't be a generalist if that was what they did. That's an IT Buyer, not someone working in IT. Like buying a car makes me a car buyer, not an automotive engineer. IT people buy products too, of course, but IT practitioners are product buyers, not IT buyers (at least part of the time.) What you describe isn't a generalist at all but purely a layer of bureaucracy paid to buy IT. I have no idea why companies have this layer as the layer about could buy IT more cost effectively and faster without that layer.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                                      Now Scott loves to assume that everyone is as brilliant as he is, and that they automatically know that Storage Spaces is the rebanded MS Software RAID.

                                      Firstly, that's informed, has nothing to do with being smart. And I assume nothing of the sort, I state it up front so that he knows it. Later on when he gets the info wrong it's because he's being belligerent, not uninformed. He's been informed, by me - specifically because I assumed that he didn't know it, because if he did he wouldn't be testing it.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                                        So, like those that believe they have HA because they have a SAN and they've never had outage continue to believe in that single SAN solution as viable for HA, we know from understanding real failure domains that it's not HA.

                                        That's just lacking common sense. Those same people would think driving without a seatbelt was safe for the same reason.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                          @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                          @BRRABill said in I can't even:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                          This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                                          https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                                          My only "defense" is that when you start out interacting with you, and some others, it does feel like people are being a bit aggressive and ... whatever.

                                          It's not the case. I'm just saying it's probably a common first reaction.

                                          Yeah, but he's supposed to be an IT guy. He should be looking for vetting of his ideas every day. Who cares that I sound aggressive? I didn't call him stupid, I pointed out how to fix his mistakes so that he could not get fired.

                                          I'd almost have to say that most generalist don't fit Scott's definition of an IT guy, and possible not even a more generally accepted definition either. more often than not, generalists don't do research, they call up on the sales guy to sell him something that he can then sell to management.

                                          Well, that wouldn't be a generalist if that was what they did. That's an IT Buyer, not someone working in IT. Like buying a car makes me a car buyer, not an automotive engineer. IT people buy products too, of course, but IT practitioners are product buyers, not IT buyers (at least part of the time.) What you describe isn't a generalist at all but purely a layer of bureaucracy paid to buy IT. I have no idea why companies have this layer as the layer about could buy IT more cost effectively and faster without that layer.

                                          yes they can or could - but as SW clearly show - small shop IT seem to be more just the IT buyers type, and less the critical IT thinkers type.
                                          so it's a combination of faults - the management of said company doesn't know or care, and the same for the "IT" side.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                            @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                                            So, like those that believe they have HA because they have a SAN and they've never had outage continue to believe in that single SAN solution as viable for HA, we know from understanding real failure domains that it's not HA.

                                            That's just lacking common sense. Those same people would think driving without a seatbelt was safe for the same reason.

                                            Call it what you will, but if it doesn't just smack someone in the face, the reality is that most don't dig much beyond the surface of understanding. In the case of a SAN - they simply know they don't know, and don't care enough to understand.

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