Virtualization build
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@Danp said in Virtualization build:
@Dashrender Several examples from ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162152649359?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162022356138?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.com/itm/152233743184?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
The first two are listed as new w/ warranty. The last is listed as used, but with minimal usage and warranty until 2020.
Huh - I wonder if these fell off the back of a truck? If it's true and Samsung says the warrant is valid that's an awesome price, assuming that work in your new Dell.
I know @BRRABill had an issue with non Dell SSDs - I think it was dropping the drives or at least the partitions, in either case, the data was gone.
Please keep us informed!
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@Jason said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.
Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.
border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha
Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.
"In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."
Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything
https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions
Even in the US you pay gift taxes, they are actually higher near 50% tax rate, unless it is a gift to a spouse or political party.
Yeah the gift tax doesn't start until a value close to 6 Million US. as of 2015.
So you'd be more than in the clear.
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@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@Jason said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.
Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.
border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha
Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.
"In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."
Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything
https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions
Even in the US you pay gift taxes, they are actually higher near 50% tax rate, unless it is a gift to a spouse or political party.
Yeah the gift tax doesn't start until a value close to 6 Million US. as of 2015.
So you'd be more than in the clear.
That's Federal.. Almost every state has gift tax as well. Also that is the lifetime limit meaning that if you give over 5million you always are taxed, you are still taxed federallly under 5 million if you go over the annual limit which is much much lower.
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@Jason This would be at the federal level as two people from different nations are involved.
The state can pound sand.
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@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@Jason This would be at the federal level as two people from different nations are involved.
Not sure where you get that. You live in the state laws still apply. Just like when you buy stuff online you have to pay the taxes not collected by the merchant to your state at the end of the year.
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@Jason hahaha..
ok sure...
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@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.
Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.
But @Danp I thought the dell systems had a hard time with the Samsung ssds..
Taxes are insane doing that. Easily 100% of the cost of the server. Plus the shipping isn't cheap, either. And you have to pay a customs proxy agent to do the work for you.
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@NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller I got a similar quote for same config minus the SSDs and only half the RAM at $2,500 CDN
But $2,500 CDN is like Monopoly money, so that's a good deal, right?
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@scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:
@NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller I got a similar quote for same config minus the SSDs and only half the RAM at $2,500 CDN
But $2,500 CDN is like Monopoly money, so that's a good deal, right?
It would be $1897.46 US.
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@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.
Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.
border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha
Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.
Doesn't work that way. Taxes are on the VALUE of the gear in CANADA. Has zero to do with the usage, price, intent, etc. You are not talking about a state tax agent here, you are talking about customs.
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@Danp said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
But @Danp I thought the dell systems had a hard time with the Samsung ssds..
Not sure. Was told that they would work fine, but would exhibit the known issue in OMSA.
Who told you? Was it someone that is going to warranty them in that scenario?
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@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.
Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.
border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha
Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.
"In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."
Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything
https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions
We have to pay taxes on servers that are just resting in Canada. Even if they are US origin and return to the US, you have to pay taxes to go into Canada. No exceptions.
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@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.
Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.
border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha
Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.
"In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."
Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything
https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions
And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.
What's the tax on that?
Price isn't a factor.
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@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.
Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.
border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha
Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.
"In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."
Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything
https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions
And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.
What's the tax on that?
You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.
Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.
2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.
Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times
YOu are assuming that the low price would be used. Those could easily be taxed based on a higher $5K or so US price.
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@Dashrender said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.
Shit, have it delivered to the US and drive here pick it up!
We do that. They still tax you. You just have to pray that they don't inspect your car because.... that's jail time.
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@Jason said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.
Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.
border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha
Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.
"In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."
Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything
https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions
Even in the US you pay gift taxes, they are actually higher near 50% tax rate, unless it is a gift to a spouse or political party.
Or from parents.
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@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@Jason said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.
Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.
border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha
Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.
"In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."
Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything
https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions
Even in the US you pay gift taxes, they are actually higher near 50% tax rate, unless it is a gift to a spouse or political party.
Yeah the gift tax doesn't start until a value close to 6 Million US. as of 2015.
So you'd be more than in the clear.
$13K in NY last I knew.
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US Gift taxes are paid by the donor not the donee.
The Federal annual exclusion for 2016 is $14,000.
It gets more complicated when the donee's state then marks it as income and taxes it as such, but generally most states match the gift exclusions to the federal amounts.
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@scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:
@NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller I got a similar quote for same config minus the SSDs and only half the RAM at $2,500 CDN
But $2,500 CDN is like Monopoly money, so that's a good deal, right?
Yeah, no kidding. At today's exchange rates. Lol
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@scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
@DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:
@MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:
I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.
Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.
border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha
Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.
"In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."
Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything
https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions
And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.
What's the tax on that?
You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.
Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.
2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.
Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times
YOu are assuming that the low price would be used. Those could easily be taxed based on a higher $5K or so US price.
For Ontario, Customs will charge me the HST (13%) of the Canadian value of the converted stated cost. So if the server is $2,500 USD, they will convert to CDN and then tag on 13% tax.
One thing I learned recently is that there are no duties to be paid on purchases that are coming in from the US like a used server. Buying new means that the country of original build will decide if there are duty fees to be paid in addition to taxes. Purchasing servers in the US means I only pay the taxes of the CDN declared value. That being said, shippers like FedEx will charge their own CLearance Entry fees and Advancement Fees so unless you have an account with the shippers, these tacked-on fees make it too expensive to buy from the US, even if you do find a crazy good deal.
