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    • RamblingBipedR
      RamblingBiped @MattSpeller
      last edited by

      @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

      @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

      @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

      @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

      @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

      @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

      @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

      I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

      Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

      border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

      Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

      "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

      Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

      https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

      And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

      What's the tax on that?

      You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

      Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

      2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

      Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

      What if we inserted and secured the servers into one of the big bubble bouncy ball things and delivered it via trebuchet?

      alt text

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      • RamblingBipedR
        RamblingBiped
        last edited by

        I mean, it isn't like he's using HDDs; everything should still be within warranty on landing right?

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @Danp
          last edited by

          @Danp said in Virtualization build:

          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

          But @Danp I thought the dell systems had a hard time with the Samsung ssds..

          Not sure. Was told that they would work fine, but would exhibit the known issue in OMSA.

          Depends on the drive. I tried Kingston and EDGE SSDs that the manufacturer claimed worked, and exhibited issues in addition to not appearing in OMSA.

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          • MattSpellerM
            MattSpeller @RamblingBiped
            last edited by

            @RamblingBiped said in Virtualization build:

            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

            I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

            Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

            border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

            Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

            "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

            Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

            https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

            And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

            What's the tax on that?

            You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

            Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

            2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

            Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

            What if we inserted and secured the servers into one of the big bubble bouncy ball things and delivered it via trebuchet?

            alt text

            I have no clue but that excites me in a "don't want to be caught doing it but really want to find out" kinda way

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @MattSpeller
              last edited by

              @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

              I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

              Shit, have it delivered to the US and drive here pick it up!

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @Danp
                last edited by

                @Danp said in Virtualization build:

                @thwr No, this would be for production usage. The SSDs are enterprise Samsung. Here's the spec sheet.

                @MattSpeller Ebay listing

                OMG how are you getting Enterprise drives so CHEAP? I would expect the drives to be more than your listed price.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @Danp
                  last edited by

                  @Danp said in Virtualization build:

                  Recently got a quote for the following used server --

                  Dell R720 SFF
                  Dual E5-2670 8 core 2.5 Ghz
                  192 GB RAM
                  8x New Samsung 480GB SSD 
                  H710 integrated LSI SAS RAID 0-6
                  16 drive Bay server
                  Dual 750W power supply
                  Rail kit
                  1 year warranty
                  

                  Quoted price was $2629/ea. The plan would be to replace my aging R905 with two newer servers.

                  Comments or suggestions?

                  Where did the quote come from? xByte?

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller @Dashrender
                    last edited by MattSpeller

                    @Dashrender no clue but he did link an ebay post below

                    http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R720-SFF-16-Bay-Dual-E5-2670-192GB-RAM-2-4TB-H710-2x-PWS-Rail-Kit-/152215083076?hash=item2370b9d844:g:dPcAAOSwMtxXuz~z

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                    • NashBrydgesN
                      NashBrydges @MattSpeller
                      last edited by

                      @MattSpeller I got a similar quote for same config minus the SSDs and only half the RAM at $2,500 CDN 😞

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                      • DanpD
                        Danp @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender Several examples from ebay:

                        http://www.ebay.com/itm/162152649359?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

                        http://www.ebay.com/itm/162022356138?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

                        http://www.ebay.com/itm/152233743184?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

                        The first two are listed as new w/ warranty. The last is listed as used, but with minimal usage and warranty until 2020.

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                          Jason Banned @MattSpeller
                          last edited by gjacobse

                          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                          I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                          Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                          border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                          Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                          "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                          Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                          https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                          Even in the US you pay gift taxes, they are actually higher near 50% tax rate, unless it is a gift to a spouse or political party.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @Jason
                            last edited by gjacobse

                            @Jason said in Virtualization build:

                            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                            I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                            Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                            border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                            Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                            "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                            Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                            https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                            Even in the US you pay gift taxes, they are actually higher near 50% tax rate, unless it is a gift to a spouse or political party.

                            Really? I thought the gift tax didn't kick in until something like the $12,000 mark, then it's 50%, I was unaware that the high starting number only applied to family?

                            It's sad, you gift a family member $15K, and they get way less than the $12K damn guberment 😞

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @Danp
                              last edited by

                              @Danp said in Virtualization build:

                              @Dashrender Several examples from ebay:

                              http://www.ebay.com/itm/162152649359?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

                              http://www.ebay.com/itm/162022356138?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

                              http://www.ebay.com/itm/152233743184?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

                              The first two are listed as new w/ warranty. The last is listed as used, but with minimal usage and warranty until 2020.

                              Huh - I wonder if these fell off the back of a truck? If it's true and Samsung says the warrant is valid that's an awesome price, assuming that work in your new Dell.

                              I know @BRRABill had an issue with non Dell SSDs - I think it was dropping the drives or at least the partitions, in either case, the data was gone.

                              Please keep us informed!

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @Jason
                                last edited by gjacobse

                                @Jason said in Virtualization build:

                                @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                                Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                                border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                                Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                                "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                                Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                                https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                                Even in the US you pay gift taxes, they are actually higher near 50% tax rate, unless it is a gift to a spouse or political party.

                                Yeah the gift tax doesn't start until a value close to 6 Million US. as of 2015.

                                So you'd be more than in the clear.

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                                  Jason Banned @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                  @Jason said in Virtualization build:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                  I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                                  Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                                  border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                                  Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                                  "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                                  Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                                  https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                                  Even in the US you pay gift taxes, they are actually higher near 50% tax rate, unless it is a gift to a spouse or political party.

                                  Yeah the gift tax doesn't start until a value close to 6 Million US. as of 2015.

                                  So you'd be more than in the clear.

                                  That's Federal.. Almost every state has gift tax as well. Also that is the lifetime limit meaning that if you give over 5million you always are taxed, you are still taxed federallly under 5 million if you go over the annual limit which is much much lower.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @Jason
                                    last edited by

                                    @Jason This would be at the federal level as two people from different nations are involved.

                                    The state can pound sand.

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                                      Jason Banned @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                      @Jason This would be at the federal level as two people from different nations are involved.

                                      Not sure where you get that. You live in the state laws still apply. Just like when you buy stuff online you have to pay the taxes not collected by the merchant to your state at the end of the year.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @Jason
                                        last edited by

                                        @Jason hahaha..

                                        ok sure... 😉

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                          I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                                          Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                                          But @Danp I thought the dell systems had a hard time with the Samsung ssds..

                                          Taxes are insane doing that. Easily 100% of the cost of the server. Plus the shipping isn't cheap, either. And you have to pay a customs proxy agent to do the work for you.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @NashBrydges
                                            last edited by

                                            @NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:

                                            @MattSpeller I got a similar quote for same config minus the SSDs and only half the RAM at $2,500 CDN 😞

                                            But $2,500 CDN is like Monopoly money, so that's a good deal, right?

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