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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @gjacobse
      last edited by

      @gjacobse I do not get that. Mine has been untouched since last night.

      pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo upsc jaredoffice
      Init SSL without certificate database
      battery.charge: 100
      battery.charge.low: 10
      battery.charge.warning: 50
      battery.date: 2001/09/25
      battery.mfr.date: 2010/12/15
      battery.runtime: 1472
      battery.runtime.low: 120
      battery.type: PbAc
      battery.voltage: 27.2
      battery.voltage.nominal: 24.0
      device.mfr: American Power Conversion
      device.model: Back-UPS BR1000G
      device.serial: 3B1051X20329
      device.type: ups
      driver.name: usbhid-ups
      driver.parameter.pollfreq: 30
      driver.parameter.pollinterval: 2
      driver.parameter.port: auto
      driver.version: 2.7.2
      driver.version.data: APC HID 0.95
      driver.version.internal: 0.38
      input.sensitivity: medium
      input.transfer.high: 147
      input.transfer.low: 88
      input.voltage: 124.0
      input.voltage.nominal: 120
      ups.beeper.status: enabled
      ups.delay.shutdown: 20
      ups.firmware: 868.L1 .D
      ups.firmware.aux: L1
      ups.load: 20
      ups.mfr: American Power Conversion
      ups.mfr.date: 2010/12/15
      ups.model: Back-UPS BR1000G
      ups.productid: 0002
      ups.realpower.nominal: 600
      ups.serial: 3B1051X20329
      ups.status: OL
      ups.test.result: No test initiated
      ups.timer.reboot: 0
      ups.timer.shutdown: -1
      ups.vendorid: 051d
      pi@raspberrypi:~ $
      
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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
        last edited by

        This is what I will be following to configure reporting/alerting.
        http://www.techrepublic.com/article/customize-ups-related-alerts-in-nut/

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        • gjacobseG
          gjacobse @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch
          Well push comes to Meh -okay. I restarted the box and it's polls now.

          Won't do anything else with it for a spell to see if it retains it. It's been four days since I restarted it. Now - to reconnect to it as I had to pull the monitor off. X2Go works great,.. but only once I've signed in at the local. sure that is omething that can be changed.

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          • gjacobseG
            gjacobse
            last edited by

            checking on my UPS this morning

             ~ $ uptime
             09:59:20 up 6 days, 18:12,  2 users,  load average: 0.19, 0.25, 0.25
            
             ~ $ sudo upsc pandora
            Init SSL without certificate database
            battery.charge: 100
            battery.charge.low: 10
            battery.charge.warning: 50
            battery.date: not set
            battery.mfr.date: 2014/06/22
            battery.runtime: 3172
            battery.runtime.low: 120
            battery.type: PbAc
            battery.voltage: 13.6
            battery.voltage.nominal: 12.0
            device.mfr: APC
            device.model: Back-UPS ES 550G
            device.serial: 4B1425P54201
            device.type: ups
            driver.name: usbhid-ups
            driver.parameter.pollfreq: 30
            driver.parameter.pollinterval: 2
            driver.parameter.port: auto
            driver.version: 2.7.1
            driver.version.data: APC HID 0.95
            driver.version.internal: 0.38
            input.sensitivity: medium
            input.transfer.high: 139
            input.transfer.low: 92
            input.voltage: 126.0
            input.voltage.nominal: 120
            ups.beeper.status: enabled
            ups.delay.shutdown: 20
            ups.firmware: 904.W1 .D
            ups.firmware.aux: W1
            ups.load: 13
            ups.mfr: APC
            ups.mfr.date: 2014/06/22
            ups.model: Back-UPS ES 550G
            ups.productid: 0002
            ups.serial: 4B1425P54201
            ups.status: OL
            ups.timer.reboot: 0
            ups.timer.shutdown: -1
            ups.vendorid: 051d
            

            Since reboot, the monitor has been running all the time. So it may have been simply that.

            As for having multiple UPS monitoring, I was curious what you thought about having a central display which showed the status of each UPS monitored. That way you have one display to glance at for a health check.

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            • gjacobseG
              gjacobse @gjacobse
              last edited by

              @gjacobse said in Pi as a UPS monitor:

              checking on my UPS this morning

              Since reboot, the monitor has been running all the time. So it may have been simply that.

              As for having multiple UPS monitoring, I was curious what you thought about having a central display which showed the status of each UPS monitored. That way you have one display to glance at for a health check.

              Maybe something similar to the UBNT controller software - central configuration ability.....

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @gjacobse
                last edited by

                @gjacobse said in Pi as a UPS monitor:

                checking on my UPS this morning

                 ~ $ uptime
                 09:59:20 up 6 days, 18:12,  2 users,  load average: 0.19, 0.25, 0.25
                
                 ~ $ sudo upsc pandora
                Init SSL without certificate database
                battery.charge: 100
                battery.charge.low: 10
                battery.charge.warning: 50
                battery.date: not set
                battery.mfr.date: 2014/06/22
                battery.runtime: 3172
                battery.runtime.low: 120
                battery.type: PbAc
                battery.voltage: 13.6
                battery.voltage.nominal: 12.0
                device.mfr: APC
                device.model: Back-UPS ES 550G
                device.serial: 4B1425P54201
                device.type: ups
                driver.name: usbhid-ups
                driver.parameter.pollfreq: 30
                driver.parameter.pollinterval: 2
                driver.parameter.port: auto
                driver.version: 2.7.1
                driver.version.data: APC HID 0.95
                driver.version.internal: 0.38
                input.sensitivity: medium
                input.transfer.high: 139
                input.transfer.low: 92
                input.voltage: 126.0
                input.voltage.nominal: 120
                ups.beeper.status: enabled
                ups.delay.shutdown: 20
                ups.firmware: 904.W1 .D
                ups.firmware.aux: W1
                ups.load: 13
                ups.mfr: APC
                ups.mfr.date: 2014/06/22
                ups.model: Back-UPS ES 550G
                ups.productid: 0002
                ups.serial: 4B1425P54201
                ups.status: OL
                ups.timer.reboot: 0
                ups.timer.shutdown: -1
                ups.vendorid: 051d
                

                Since reboot, the monitor has been running all the time. So it may have been simply that.

                As for having multiple UPS monitoring, I was curious what you thought about having a central display which showed the status of each UPS monitored. That way you have one display to glance at for a health check.

                Take the output of upsc and throw it up on a web page. Unless you want a local display, in which case it's actually more difficult.

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                • thwrT
                  thwr @gjacobse
                  last edited by

                  @gjacobse said in Pi as a UPS monitor:

                  checking on my UPS this morning

                   ~ $ uptime
                   09:59:20 up 6 days, 18:12,  2 users,  load average: 0.19, 0.25, 0.25
                  
                   ~ $ sudo upsc pandora
                  Init SSL without certificate database
                  battery.charge: 100
                  battery.charge.low: 10
                  battery.charge.warning: 50
                  battery.date: not set
                  battery.mfr.date: 2014/06/22
                  battery.runtime: 3172
                  battery.runtime.low: 120
                  battery.type: PbAc
                  battery.voltage: 13.6
                  battery.voltage.nominal: 12.0
                  device.mfr: APC
                  device.model: Back-UPS ES 550G
                  device.serial: 4B1425P54201
                  device.type: ups
                  driver.name: usbhid-ups
                  driver.parameter.pollfreq: 30
                  driver.parameter.pollinterval: 2
                  driver.parameter.port: auto
                  driver.version: 2.7.1
                  driver.version.data: APC HID 0.95
                  driver.version.internal: 0.38
                  input.sensitivity: medium
                  input.transfer.high: 139
                  input.transfer.low: 92
                  input.voltage: 126.0
                  input.voltage.nominal: 120
                  ups.beeper.status: enabled
                  ups.delay.shutdown: 20
                  ups.firmware: 904.W1 .D
                  ups.firmware.aux: W1
                  ups.load: 13
                  ups.mfr: APC
                  ups.mfr.date: 2014/06/22
                  ups.model: Back-UPS ES 550G
                  ups.productid: 0002
                  ups.serial: 4B1425P54201
                  ups.status: OL
                  ups.timer.reboot: 0
                  ups.timer.shutdown: -1
                  ups.vendorid: 051d
                  

                  Since reboot, the monitor has been running all the time. So it may have been simply that.

                  As for having multiple UPS monitoring, I was curious what you thought about having a central display which showed the status of each UPS monitored. That way you have one display to glance at for a health check.

                  AMQP / MQTT may be awesome for this at the transport layer. MQTT is an interesting protocol that let you define a "last will and testament" action in case something goes south.

                  Ansible/Puppet etc. can handle the central configuration.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    Hey 3 months later.....

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      Alright, I plugged the thing back in and got to testing.

                      Yeah! It still communicates.

                      pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo upsc jaredoffice
                      Init SSL without certificate database
                      battery.charge: 84
                      battery.charge.low: 10
                      battery.charge.warning: 50
                      battery.date: 2001/09/25
                      battery.mfr.date: 2010/12/15
                      battery.runtime: 1236
                      battery.runtime.low: 120
                      battery.type: PbAc
                      battery.voltage: 27.0
                      battery.voltage.nominal: 24.0
                      device.mfr: American Power Conversion
                      device.model: Back-UPS BR1000G
                      device.serial: 3B1051X20329
                      device.type: ups
                      driver.name: usbhid-ups
                      driver.parameter.pollfreq: 30
                      driver.parameter.pollinterval: 2
                      driver.parameter.port: auto
                      driver.version: 2.7.2
                      driver.version.data: APC HID 0.95
                      driver.version.internal: 0.38
                      input.sensitivity: medium
                      input.transfer.high: 147
                      input.transfer.low: 88
                      input.transfer.reason: input voltage out of range
                      input.voltage: 124.0
                      input.voltage.nominal: 120
                      ups.beeper.status: enabled
                      ups.delay.shutdown: 20
                      ups.firmware: 868.L1 .D
                      ups.firmware.aux: L1
                      ups.load: 20
                      ups.mfr: American Power Conversion
                      ups.mfr.date: 2010/12/15
                      ups.model: Back-UPS BR1000G
                      ups.productid: 0002
                      ups.realpower.nominal: 600
                      ups.serial: 3B1051X20329
                      ups.status: OL CHRG
                      ups.test.result: No test initiated
                      ups.timer.reboot: 0
                      ups.timer.shutdown: -1
                      ups.vendorid: 051d
                      
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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
                        last edited by JaredBusch

                        Pulled the power cord from the wall. UPS beeps, but nothing from nut.

                        Ok back to the manual and checking the conf files.

                        Well it would probably help if I told the thing what to monitor..
                        /etc/nut/upsmon.conf

                        MONITOR jaredoffice@localhost 1 upsmon demo master
                        

                        Oh but those details have to match /etc/nut/ups.conf and /etc/nut/upsd.users. Well I already know that my unit is called jaredoffice@localhost from ups.conf. So just edit upsd.users.

                        pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo nano /etc/nut/upsd.users
                        # put at end of file
                        [upsmon]
                        password = demo
                        upsmon master
                        

                        Now reload the monitor

                        pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo upsmon -c reload
                        Network UPS Tools upsmon 2.7.2
                        pi@raspberrypi:~ $
                        

                        Then unplug the UPS. and get nothing.

                        look in the logs..
                        tail/var/log/syslog

                        Feb  1 17:05:38 raspberrypi upsmon[732]: UPS jaredoffice@localhost on battery
                        Feb  1 17:05:38 raspberrypi rsyslogd-2007: action 'action 17' suspended, next retry is Wed Feb  1 17:06:08 2017 [try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2007 ]
                        Feb  1 17:05:38 raspberrypi upssched[964]: Can't open /etc/nut/upssched.conf: Permission denied
                        Feb  1 17:05:48 raspberrypi upsmon[732]: UPS jaredoffice@localhost on line power
                        Feb  1 17:05:48 raspberrypi upssched[967]: Can't open /etc/nut/upssched.conf: Permission denied
                        

                        Say to yourself, WTF did I do 3 months ago....

                        Time to reload and start over.

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                        • gjacobseG
                          gjacobse @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in Pi as a UPS monitor:

                          Pulled the power cord from the wall. UPS beeps, but nothing from nut.

                          Ok back to the manual and checking the conf files.

                          Well it would probably help if I told the thing what to monitor..
                          /etc/nut/upsmon.conf

                          MONITOR jaredoffice@localhost 1 upsmon demo master
                          

                          Oh but those details have to match /etc/nut/ups.conf and /etc/nut/upsd.users. Well I already know that my unit is called jaredoffice@localhost from ups.conf. So just edit upsd.users.

                          pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo nano /etc/nut/upsd.users
                          # put at end of file
                          [upsmon]
                          password = demo
                          upsmon master
                          

                          Now reload the monitor

                          pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo upsmon -c reload
                          Network UPS Tools upsmon 2.7.2
                          pi@raspberrypi:~ $
                          

                          Then unplug the UPS. and get nothing.

                          look in the logs..
                          tail/var/log/syslog

                          Feb  1 17:05:38 raspberrypi upsmon[732]: UPS jaredoffice@localhost on battery
                          Feb  1 17:05:38 raspberrypi rsyslogd-2007: action 'action 17' suspended, next retry is Wed Feb  1 17:06:08 2017 [try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2007 ]
                          Feb  1 17:05:38 raspberrypi upssched[964]: Can't open /etc/nut/upssched.conf: Permission denied
                          Feb  1 17:05:48 raspberrypi upsmon[732]: UPS jaredoffice@localhost on line power
                          Feb  1 17:05:48 raspberrypi upssched[967]: Can't open /etc/nut/upssched.conf: Permission denied
                          

                          Say to yourself, WTF did I do 3 months ago....

                          Time to reload and start over.

                          think i got the same thing, and decide the same course of action, to which I have not moved forward with. Albeit, it's not on a rPi but a desktop - premise is the same.

                          Think we may have to create a user for the NUT system.... but again,.. can't work with it right now.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
                            last edited by JaredBusch

                            Quick check of upsmon.conf found this, uncommented it.

                            # RUN_AS_USER nut
                            

                            Rebooted Pi, unplugged UPS.

                            Broadcast message from nut@raspberrypi (somewhere) (Wed Feb  1 17:19:04 2017):
                            
                            UPS jaredoffice@localhost on battery
                            
                            
                            Broadcast message from nut@raspberrypi (somewhere) (Wed Feb  1 17:19:24 2017):
                            
                            UPS jaredoffice@localhost on line power
                            
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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              Syslog had this though.

                              Feb  1 17:19:04 raspberrypi upsmon[734]: UPS jaredoffice@localhost on battery
                              Feb  1 17:19:11 raspberrypi upssched[792]: Failed to connect to parent and failed to create parent: No such file or directory
                              Feb  1 17:19:24 raspberrypi upsmon[734]: UPS jaredoffice@localhost on line power
                              

                              Back to the config files we go!
                              /etc/nut/upssched.conf

                              # PIPEFN <filename>
                              # This is commented out by default to make you visit this file and think
                              # about how your system works before potentially opening a hole.
                              

                              FFS, but it gets better! Right below that, also commented out.

                              # LOCKFN <filename>
                              #
                              # REQUIRED.  This was added after version 1.2.1.
                              #
                              # upssched needs to be able to create this filename in order to avoid
                              # a race condition when two events are dispatched from upsmon at nearly
                              # the same time.  This file will only exist briefly.  It must not be
                              # created by any other process.
                              #
                              # You should put this in the same directory as PIPEFN.
                              #
                              

                              So I update the config and make a directory forgetting to chown it from root /sigh...

                              PIPEFN /etc/nut/upssched/upssched.pipe
                              LOCKFN /etc/nut/upssched/upssched.lock
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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
                                last edited by JaredBusch

                                Once it was all chowned...

                                Feb  1 17:33:08 raspberrypi upssched[793]: Timer daemon started
                                Feb  1 17:33:09 raspberrypi upssched[793]: New timer: onbattwarn (30 seconds)
                                Feb  1 17:33:39 raspberrypi upssched[793]: Event: onbattwarn
                                Feb  1 17:33:54 raspberrypi upssched[793]: Timer queue empty, exiting
                                

                                And output to the screen:

                                Broadcast message from nut@raspberrypi (somewhere) (Wed Feb  1 17:33:39 2017):
                                
                                The UPS is currently running on battery power!
                                
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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  Now time to wipe, replicate, test and document.

                                  Then the command can be changed to send email.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch
                                    last edited by JaredBusch

                                    Following my own notes from post 62
                                    At step 11 (installing nut form repo) I see an error.
                                    May or may not have gotten this the first time around..

                                    pi@bna-pwr-pi-01:~ $ sudo apt-get install nut
                                    Reading package lists... Done
                                    <snip>
                                    Unpacking nut (2.7.2-4) ...
                                    Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.0.2-5) ...
                                    Processing triggers for systemd (215-17+deb8u6) ...
                                    Setting up libnspr4:armhf (2:4.12-1+debu8u1) ...
                                    Setting up libnss3:armhf (2:3.26-1+debu8u1) ...
                                    Setting up libupsclient4:armhf (2.7.2-4) ...
                                    Setting up nut-client (2.7.2-4) ...
                                    Job for nut-monitor.service failed. See 'systemctl status nut-monitor.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details.
                                    invoke-rc.d: initscript nut-client, action "start" failed.
                                    Setting up nut-server (2.7.2-4) ...
                                    A dependency job for nut-server.service failed. See 'journalctl -xn' for details.
                                    invoke-rc.d: initscript nut-server, action "start" failed.
                                    Job for nut-driver.service failed. See 'systemctl status nut-driver.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details.
                                    Setting up nut (2.7.2-4) ...
                                    Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.19-18+deb8u7) ...
                                    Processing triggers for systemd (215-17+deb8u6) ...
                                    pi@bna-pwr-pi-01:~ $ systemctl status nut-monitor
                                    ● nut-monitor.service - Network UPS Tools - power device monitor and shutdown controller
                                       Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/nut-monitor.service; enabled)
                                       Active: failed (Result: resources) since Thu 2017-02-02 02:10:27 UTC; 49s ago
                                    pi@bna-pwr-pi-01:~ $ 
                                    
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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      ah here we go, this is normal because not configured.

                                      pi@bna-pwr-pi-01:~ $ sudo journalctl -xn
                                      -- Logs begin at Fri 2016-11-25 18:24:08 UTC, end at Thu 2017-02-02 02:33:03 UTC. --
                                      Feb 02 02:32:47 bna-pwr-pi-01 sudo[23103]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for user root by pi(uid=0)
                                      Feb 02 02:32:47 bna-pwr-pi-01 systemd[1]: Starting Network UPS Tools - power device monitor and shutdown controller...
                                      -- Subject: Unit nut-monitor.service has begun with start-up
                                      -- Defined-By: systemd
                                      -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
                                      -- 
                                      -- Unit nut-monitor.service has begun starting up.
                                      Feb 02 02:32:47 bna-pwr-pi-01 upsmon[23113]: upsmon disabled, please adjust the configuration to your needs
                                      Feb 02 02:32:47 bna-pwr-pi-01 upsmon[23113]: Then set MODE to a suitable value in /etc/nut/nut.conf to enable it
                                      Feb 02 02:32:47 bna-pwr-pi-01 systemd[1]: PID file /var/run/nut/upsmon.pid not readable (yet?) after start.
                                      Feb 02 02:32:47 bna-pwr-pi-01 systemd[1]: Failed to start Network UPS Tools - power device monitor and shutdown controller.
                                      -- Subject: Unit nut-monitor.service has failed
                                      -- Defined-By: systemd
                                      -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
                                      -- 
                                      -- Unit nut-monitor.service has failed.
                                      -- 
                                      -- The result is failed.
                                      Feb 02 02:32:47 bna-pwr-pi-01 systemd[1]: Unit nut-monitor.service entered failed state.
                                      Feb 02 02:32:48 bna-pwr-pi-01 sudo[23103]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root
                                      Feb 02 02:33:03 bna-pwr-pi-01 sudo[23121]: pi : TTY=pts/0 ; PWD=/home/pi ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/bin/journalctl -xn
                                      Feb 02 02:33:03 bna-pwr-pi-01 sudo[23121]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for user root by pi(uid=0)
                                      
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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch
                                        last edited by JaredBusch

                                        So on to configuration. Nut has only a few config files you need to deal with.

                                        We will go right down the list.

                                        pi@bna-pwr-pi-01:~ $ ls -l /etc/nut
                                        total 44
                                        -rw-r----- 1 root nut  1538 Mar 26  2015 nut.conf
                                        -rw-r----- 1 root nut  4572 Mar 26  2015 ups.conf
                                        -rw-r----- 1 root nut  4578 Mar 26  2015 upsd.conf
                                        -rw-r----- 1 root nut  2131 Mar 26  2015 upsd.users
                                        -rw-r----- 1 root nut 15170 Mar 26  2015 upsmon.conf
                                        -rw-r----- 1 root nut  3887 Mar 26  2015 upssched.conf
                                        
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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          First up is nut.conf. There is only a single option to set in this file, but it is important.

                                          Assuming you are going to have only one device, or if multiple devices, that they will report in on their own, the simplest configuration is to choose standalone

                                          MODE=standalone
                                          

                                          Here are the various meanings from the conf file.

                                          # - none: NUT is not configured, or use the Integrated Power Management, or use
                                          #   some external system to startup NUT components. So nothing is to be started.
                                          # - standalone: This mode address a local only configuration, with 1 UPS
                                          #   protecting the local system. This implies to start the 3 NUT layers (driver,
                                          #   upsd and upsmon) and the matching configuration files. This mode can also
                                          #   address UPS redundancy.
                                          # - netserver: same as for the standalone configuration, but also need
                                          #   some more network access controls (firewall, tcp-wrappers) and possibly a
                                          #   specific LISTEN directive in upsd.conf.
                                          #   Since this MODE is opened to the network, a special care should be applied
                                          #   to security concerns.
                                          # - netclient: this mode only requires upsmon.
                                          
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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            Next up is ups.conf, again read the config file for more information, it is fairly thorough.

                                            In this case I am going to connect it to the APC unit pictured at the beginning of this thread.

                                            [bnajaredrouter]
                                            driver = usbhid-ups
                                            port = auto
                                            desc = "Jared Router UPS"
                                            
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