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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @BRRABill
      last edited by

      @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

      @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

      @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

      @JaredBusch said

      This does not matter FFS, forget about AD.

      He said there is another DC. How does it not matter?

      He also said it doesn't work. AD isn't the issue right now.

      No he said he can't access it.

      If, as was mentioned (by @JaredBusch I think) the DNS settings in DHCP were incorrect, that would make sense.

      All I was trying to say is that there MIGHT be a working DC on the network still. It's possible the only issue MIGHT be that DNS settings on the client are wrong.

      The secondary DC is not relevant. And changing every client to static IP scheme would be a pain in the ass when he should simply connect to ESXi, and make a new VM based on the VMDK we hope is still there.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @JaredBusch said

        The secondary DC is not relevant. And changing every client to static IP scheme would be a pain in the ass when he should simply connect to ESXi, and make a new VM based on the VMDK we hope is still there.

        Oh yes, that is fine. 🙂

        My concern was a restore from backup.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

          When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

          You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

          0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

          I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

          So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

          Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

          Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

          log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

          I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

          No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

          They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

          That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

          Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

            @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

            @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

            @JaredBusch said

            This does not matter FFS, forget about AD.

            He said there is another DC. How does it not matter?

            He also said it doesn't work. AD isn't the issue right now.

            Well it might work but he has not easy way to know that right now because DHCP is down. If his DHCP server had handed out this DC as a secondary DNS, then things would still be working. Thus why I assume his DHCP is improperly configured. but again. no way to know that until he brings it back online.

            Oh good point. Yes, it might be fine on its own. But we assume that it's not actively on the domain or that domain members are not aware of it, so it can't cause problem because it is isolated.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              No he said he can't access it.

              He did?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  No he said he can't access it.

                  He did?

                  He did not. You are not crazy.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    Hence if he is doing a restore of a DC with another working DC in the domain, it could cause even more issues.

                    Or am I totally wrong here?

                    There isn't another working DC.

                    How do you know that? He said there was one, and the only reason mentioned it might be down was that his PC says "no domain controllers found" but as @JaredBusch has been saying, if DNS is misconfigured, that could also happen, right?

                    Okay, yes, it might work if you point to it. But unless machines are pointed at it, it's not working for the machines. So you can't break something as it is not "working" right now.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                      @wirestyle22 stay focused on the above task ^^^

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        FOrked the topic about the DCs because it's not helping the OP during an outage.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @BRRABill
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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            No he said he can't access it.

                            He did?

                            He did not. You are not crazy.

                            He said
                            "I'm assuming we must have had a domain syncing problem before this occurred, otherwise the other domain should have picked everything up as it is round robin. I attempted to disconnect my PC from the domain and reconnect. It claims there are no active directory controllers found."

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                              last edited by wirestyle22

                              @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                              When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                              You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                              0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                              I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                              So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                              Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                              Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                              log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                              I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                              No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                              They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                              That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                              Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                              That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                              Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                              Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                              https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                                last edited by

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                                When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                                You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                                0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                                I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                                So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                                Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                                Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                                log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                                I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                                No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                                They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                                That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                                Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                                That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                                Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                                Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                                https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                                Yes

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                                  When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                                  You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                                  0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                                  I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                                  So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                                  Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                                  Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                                  log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                                  I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                                  No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                                  They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                                  That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                                  Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                                  That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                                  Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                                  Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                                  https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                                  Yes

                                  Downloading. Thanks.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                                    last edited by

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                                    When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                                    You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                                    0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                                    I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                                    So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                                    Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                                    Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                                    log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                                    I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                                    No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                                    They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                                    That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                                    Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                                    That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                                    Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                                    Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                                    https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                                    Yes

                                    Downloading. Thanks.

                                    You may well hav issues connecting without the right version.

                                    When I was managing a number of ESXi hosts, I had to install that thing 4 times on my laptop for it to properly connect to each version

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                                      When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                                      You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                                      0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                                      I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                                      So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                                      Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                                      Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                                      log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                                      I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                                      No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                                      They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                                      That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                                      Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                                      That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                                      Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                                      Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                                      https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                                      Yes

                                      Downloading. Thanks.

                                      You may well hav issues connecting without the right version.

                                      When I was managing a number of ESXi hosts, I had to install that thing 4 times on my laptop for it to properly connect to each version

                                      Good to know. Thank you.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                                        last edited by

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                                        When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                                        You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                                        0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                                        I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                                        So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                                        Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                                        Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                                        log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                                        I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                                        No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                                        They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                                        That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                                        Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                                        That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                                        Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                                        Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                                        https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                                        Yes

                                        Downloading. Thanks.

                                        You may well hav issues connecting without the right version.

                                        When I was managing a number of ESXi hosts, I had to install that thing 4 times on my laptop for it to properly connect to each version

                                        Good to know. Thank you.

                                        You have 5.1 but there are multiple versions of 5.1 just FYI.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                          @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                          No he said he can't access it.

                                          He did?

                                          He did not. You are not crazy.

                                          He said
                                          "I'm assuming we must have had a domain syncing problem before this occurred, otherwise the other domain should have picked everything up as it is round robin. I attempted to disconnect my PC from the domain and reconnect. It claims there are no active directory controllers found."

                                          That, in no way, suggests that he cant access it.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22
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                                            My fingers are numb. I hope I don't have an aneurysm

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