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    • C
      Carnival Boy
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      I don't read a lot of press admittedly, but this is the only place where I've read that you can still upgrade to Windows 10 for free. I've read a few places talking about a workaround by claiming to need assistive technologies, but nowhere that says you don't need any workaround, you can just upgrade as normal. For free.

      Even on this thread, loads of people posted, but you're the only one who posted that you could still upgrade for free.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @Carnival Boy
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        @Carnival-Boy said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

        I don't read a lot of press admittedly, but this is the only place where I've read that you can still upgrade to Windows 10 for free. I've read a few places talking about a workaround by claiming to need assistive technologies, but nowhere that says you don't need any workaround, you can just upgrade as normal. For free.

        Even on this thread, loads of people posted, but you're the only one who posted that you could still upgrade for free.

        That's because it's not suppose to be a general thing. Paul Thurrott has written this in a few of his articles, but really it's only because MS hasn't turned this off on their servers yet that it still works. I say - Consider yourself lucky. With almost any other company, they would have shut down the free offer the moment they said they were going to. For whatever reason, MS hasn't.

        FYI, this could stop working today, tomorrow, who knows when. You shouldn't rely on it.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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          @Carnival-Boy said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

          I don't read a lot of press admittedly, but this is the only place where I've read that you can still upgrade to Windows 10 for free. I've read a few places talking about a workaround by claiming to need assistive technologies, but nowhere that says you don't need any workaround, you can just upgrade as normal. For free.

          Even on this thread, loads of people posted, but you're the only one who posted that you could still upgrade for free.

          I think that you should just try and see what happens. It's very possible that it still works.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

            FYI, this could stop working today, tomorrow, who knows when. You shouldn't rely on it.

            This ^^^

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            • bbigfordB
              bbigford @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

              I'm sure that MS has a path to make this as easy and painless as possible, though.

              I'm sensing some sarcasm here. If there is no sarcasm, you're so optimistic! 😄

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                Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

                I think that you should just try and see what happens. It's very possible that it still works.

                Yeah, I already wrote that it worked this morning.

                I'm not relying on it, but I'm always going to try and use it before paying for it. I don't care whether it is free or not, but I'd take free over paid if given a choice.

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                • zuphzuphZ
                  zuphzuph Banned
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                  I paid for a license to Pro after upgrading from 8.1 home to 10 home @ home. The upgrade worked okay at best at the time. Though, that was the week they released 10. I can imagine you'll probably have some driver issues and opt for a clean install in the end. If you're OCD like me that is. 😛

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                  • anthonyhA
                    anthonyh
                    last edited by anthonyh

                    I'm joining this party a little late...

                    We elected to hold out and remain on Windows 7 because of the people in our environment. We are going through a lot of changes as an organization. We implemented a new case management system (basically the lifeblood of the organization), are working on bringing up a new building that a majority of our organization will be moving to soon. Also there have been a lot of department re-orgs. So, we decided as a department that introducing our users to Windows 10 in the middle of everything that is going on would cause a revolt. We will do it after we're settled into the new building, even though it becomes a cost.

                    It wouldn't be much of an issue if we weren't an organization of roughly ~400 people...

                    Of course, us techs each have a Win10 box. 🙂

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                    • BrainsB
                      Brains
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                      we are running VMs for all the old XP applications that a handful of users need to run. It works pretty good for us

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                      • anthonyhA
                        anthonyh @Brains
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                        @Brains We have one application that just won't die that we do this for. We finally put money in this year's budget (FY starts July 1 for us) to have the software re-written. I will be so happy when it's replaced!

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by DustinB3403

                          As a last thought on this.

                          Lets look at this from a cost perspective. If you have 10 computers, all running windows 7, and you now need to purchase upgrade licenses for those machines, it'll cost $199 per (or $1990).

                          What would it cost to upgrade to the newest version of your application? Would it cost more or less? My guess would be more (than updating ever user environment), all while providing you the most current up to date software and operating system platform at minimal cost (the cost of the application upgrade fee)

                          Edit: now lets add the cost of having to upgrade both your end user devices and the software to be compliant (or supportable from a vendors point of view).

                          This "We missed the window" is really "We just wanted to waste money"

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                          • BrainsB
                            Brains @anthonyh
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                            @anthonyh said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

                            @Brains We have one application that just won't die that we do this for. We finally put money in this year's budget (FY starts July 1 for us) to have the software re-written. I will be so happy when it's replaced!

                            The pain of old software is real bruh. Lucky for me we are already phasing out the 20yr old IBM AIX 4.3 server and software (i have the source code and am NOT going to try to deal with that ludicrous display of "programming"). Our new PMS/EHR is running on a nice new server and everything is Win10 compatible.

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                            • anthonyhA
                              anthonyh @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 We have an application that's going to cost us $80k to re-write.

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                                Brains @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

                                As a last thought on this.

                                Lets look at this from a cost perspective. If you have 10 computers, all running windows 7, and you now need to purchase upgrade licenses for those machines, it'll cost $199 per (or $1990).

                                What would it cost to upgrade to the newest version of your application? Would it cost more or less? My guess would be more (than updating ever user environment), all while providing you the most current up to date software and operating system platform at minimal cost (the cost of the application upgrade fee)

                                also delaying the next OS upgrade by 3 years at least, if not 5

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                                • BrainsB
                                  Brains @anthonyh
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                                  @anthonyh said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

                                  @DustinB3403 We have an application that's going to cost us $80k to re-write.

                                  https://wtfanna.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/sad-panda.jpg

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                                  • anthonyhA
                                    anthonyh @Brains
                                    last edited by anthonyh

                                    @Brains Is the delay a big deal? Windows 7 EOL is 1/14/2020 (Windows 8 is 1/10/2023). So in theory you have 3-4 years if currently runnin Win7 until one must upgrade. I'm not sure time is an issue.

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                                    • BrainsB
                                      Brains @anthonyh
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                                      @anthonyh said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

                                      @Brains Is the delay a big deal? Windows 7 EOL is 1/14/2020. So in theory you have 3-4 years until one must upgrade. I'm not sure time is an issue.

                                      Businesses love to wait 4 years before they have to spend money instead of spending it now (or at all if the free upgrade was chosen)

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @anthonyh
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                                        @anthonyh said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

                                        @DustinB3403 We have an application that's going to cost us $80k to re-write.

                                        That is the businesses choice to have picked a solution that needed so much customization. That is the cost of doing business for the business.

                                        Now not only will it cost you 80G to re-write, but also add the cost of the upgrade licensing for Windows 10.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @anthonyh
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                                          @anthonyh said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

                                          @Brains Is the delay a big deal? Windows 7 EOL is 1/14/2020 (Windows 8 is 1/10/2023). So in theory you have 3-4 years if currently runnin Win7 until one must upgrade. I'm not sure time is an issue.

                                          Time isn't the matter, you can chose to use any OS past its EOL, but willfully passing up to the chance to get for free, what will otherwise cost you a lot of additional money (when waiting simply cost the upgrade cost times however many systems need it)

                                          So not only are you burning cash now (from a future expense which was completely avoidable) you're actually doubling or tripling the cost! If not more so, because you have to pay for the upgrade license for Windows, plus the cost of upgrading the critical business applications.

                                          Where as if you hit that window and were upgraded for free, you could have reverted back to 7, and only paid for the application upgrades.

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                                          • anthonyhA
                                            anthonyh @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 In my environment, it would cost more in manpower to upgrade to 10 then revert back than to just take the hit and buy licensing later down the road. We're talking 400+ workstations here, lol.

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