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    • coliverC
      coliver @stacksofplates
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      @johnhooks said:

      @coliver It was just nice that it was all packaged together, my laziness (and ignorance) got the best of me.

      Ah I see. Well since it is KVM under the hood I wonder if something like this would help: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/virtual_pc_guy/archive/2015/06/22/handy-tool-for-converting-kvm-vmware-images-to-hyper-v.aspx

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @coliver
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        @coliver Thanks! I'm trying to decide whether I want to stay on KVM (I'd just use CentOS, ProxMox doesn't use libvirt), Xen, Hyper-V, or try something like oVirt.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @stacksofplates
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          @johnhooks said:

          @coliver Thanks! I'm trying to decide whether I want to stay on KVM (I'd just use CentOS, ProxMox doesn't use libvirt), Xen, Hyper-V, or try something like oVirt.

          XenServer is my personal favorite I've been using it my home lab since... 2008. Super easy to use and open source if that is what you are after.

          Hyper-V is what I use here. Free and easy to use... the new version that is coming out seems to have Linux virtualization in its sights.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @coliver
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            @coliver That's good. I was leaning away from Hyper-V because all of our stuff is Linux. I had looked at XenServer but when I set everything up about 1.5 years ago, the only thing I could find for an interface was either XenCenter (Windows) or Xen Orchestra, which was a steep $70 a month for backups and importing/exporting vms with their interface.

            However, I've been trying to force myself away from interfaces so that might work out well.

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            • coliverC
              coliver @stacksofplates
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              @johnhooks said:

              @coliver That's good. I was leaning away from Hyper-V because all of our stuff is Linux. I had looked at XenServer but when I set everything up about 1.5 years ago, the only thing I could find for an interface was either XenCenter (Windows) or Xen Orchestra, which was a steep $70 a month for backups and importing/exporting vms with their interface.

              You may have issues finding a third-party backup vendor for XenServer. It doesn't really have the backup API that Hyper-V and ESXi do. Mostly I see it being backed up at the agent level (an agent installed on each VM) which may not be exactly what you are after.

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @coliver
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                @coliver Can you do LVM snapshots?

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @stacksofplates
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                  @johnhooks said:

                  @coliver Can you do LVM snapshots?

                  I think so. You could probably use LVM to take point-in-time snaps of the virtual disks and then ship those to a different location. At that point though if you needed to restore something you would be restoring the entire VM.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre
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                    I'm working out of Hyper-V a lot these days, and it works just as good as anything else out there... I am planning to switch my home server over to XenServer if I can ever get the time to do it, lol.

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre
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                      Is there any difference between Hyper-V on Windows 8.1 Enterprise and Hyper-V installed on Server 2012?

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @coliver
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                        @coliver Since I've never used Hyper-V or VMware, does Veeam do recursive backups of each vm?

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @dafyre
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                          @dafyre said:

                          Is there any difference between Hyper-V on Windows 8.1 Enterprise and Hyper-V installed on Server 2012?

                          No Hyper-V is Hyper-V. There is no difference between it on Windows 8.1, Server 2012, or Hyper-V Server. Hyper-V and XenServer use the same Dom0 method so you are basically installing a shim underneath the operating system and make the primary OS a virtual machine (Dom0).

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @coliver
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                            @coliver said:

                            @dafyre said:

                            Is there any difference between Hyper-V on Windows 8.1 Enterprise and Hyper-V installed on Server 2012?

                            No Hyper-V is Hyper-V. There is no difference between it on Windows 8.1, Server 2012, or Hyper-V Server. Hyper-V and XenServer use the same Dom0 method so you are basically installing a shim underneath the operating system and make the primary OS a virtual machine (Dom0).

                            Unless you install Hyper-V direct. No primary machine is required.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @stacksofplates
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                              @johnhooks said:

                              @coliver Since I've never used Hyper-V or VMware, does Veeam do recursive backups of each vm?

                              I've never used Veeam. What do you mean by recusive backups? It will do incremental forever backups from what I understand.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @coliver
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                                @coliver Sorry I meant incremental not recursive.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @Dashrender
                                  last edited by coliver

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @dafyre said:

                                  Is there any difference between Hyper-V on Windows 8.1 Enterprise and Hyper-V installed on Server 2012?

                                  No Hyper-V is Hyper-V. There is no difference between it on Windows 8.1, Server 2012, or Hyper-V Server. Hyper-V and XenServer use the same Dom0 method so you are basically installing a shim underneath the operating system and make the primary OS a virtual machine (Dom0).

                                  Unless you install Hyper-V direct. No primary machine is required.

                                  Right but even installing Hyper-V directly installs a cut down "Windows Server" as the Dom0.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @dafyre said:

                                    Is there any difference between Hyper-V on Windows 8.1 Enterprise and Hyper-V installed on Server 2012?

                                    No Hyper-V is Hyper-V. There is no difference between it on Windows 8.1, Server 2012, or Hyper-V Server. Hyper-V and XenServer use the same Dom0 method so you are basically installing a shim underneath the operating system and make the primary OS a virtual machine (Dom0).

                                    Unless you install Hyper-V direct. No primary machine is required.

                                    It's always the same, no matter what. The idea that HyperV has different ways of operating is all myth, and all from the SW community from what I can tell.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                      @dafyre said:

                                      Is there any difference between Hyper-V on Windows 8.1 Enterprise and Hyper-V installed on Server 2012?

                                      Only the version. The one shipped with 8.1 is one version newer than the one shipped with 2012. 2012 and 8 are in sync, 2012 R2 and 8.1 are in sync.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @dafyre said:

                                        Is there any difference between Hyper-V on Windows 8.1 Enterprise and Hyper-V installed on Server 2012?

                                        Only the version. The one shipped with 8.1 is one version newer than the one shipped with 2012. 2012 and 8 are in sync, 2012 R2 and 8.1 are in sync.

                                        A windows 8 machine cannot connect to a Windows 8.1 or Windows 2012R2 Hyper-V instance.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Making dinner plans with @Bob-Beatty @pchiodo and @MarigabyFrias

                                          It's like a MangoLassi convention down here.

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                                          • Bob BeattyB
                                            Bob Beatty
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                                            Heck yea - this would be a great place for a MangoLassi convention!

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