@BRRABill said in Backups - how much does backup performance matter to you?:

@scottalanmiller said in Backups - how much does backup performance matter to you?:

@BRRABill said in Backups - how much does backup performance matter to you?:

All a function of time and need and money.

Only time and money, need in a business is always a function of money.

I mean all of them combine.

You are correct.

Need dictates the other two.

Well, the other two dictate need. Businesses aren't a "need" based thing. They have a goal: profits. Backup restore time is a discussion about time. So the technical piece gives us the time axis and that we are talking about a business gives us a cost one. That's it. The idea of "need" should never really come up in a business, businesses never need to do anything. They desire profits and all actions should reflect that. The concept of needs only serves to confuse people from the singular mission.

@ntozier said in Buffalo NAS Return Policy Review:

Maybe the person you spoke to didn't realize if was just for a single drive? I mean I find the some non-technical users think of a Tower as the "hard drive". 🙂

Here is a quote from him: "And that was for the entire NAS with two 4TB drives (I only needed one drive)!!!"

I have used omv in my test lab here and at home a bit. The test lab it worked well, but i just ended up using ubuntu and iscsi when i had to put something in production. omv just has a web interface, some plugins to turn on. Sort of like webmin lite but for only storage. Development seems active; they keep producing new builds.
At home i installed it as a vm for a bit but when i broke my Xenproject i ended up reformatting that drive and omv with it.

What Synology has done, to make this claim kinda legit, is look at what disks "can" stream (which is more than is listed here) and added the "cap" of the network. So if you do a contrived operation that pushes the drives to their throughput limit (a useless number hence why we don't measure drives by that metric) but tells us nothing about performance. That could be just two or three IOPS producing that limit. But in the real world, that's not useful.

@JaredBusch said in Scott Alan Miller: Storage 101:

@scottalanmiller said in Scott Alan Miller: Storage 101:

@s.hackleman said in Scott Alan Miller: Storage 101:

I didn't get to make it up, but I have been watching the sessions and burning up my data plan. Thanks for posting these. I also wanted to take a minute to call out the guy sitting front and center to just surf the internet the entire time SAM is talking.

I didn't even notice that, I'm going to look for it now.

In the red? That is @DustinB3403

Ha no it is not!

It goes to 11, so it must be better than the ones that only go to 10.
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Sorry, can't help myself sometimes.

@JaredBusch said in Files in a LANLESS system:

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@Dashrender said in Files in a LANLESS system:

@scottalanmiller said in Files in a LANLESS system:

@Dashrender said in Files in a LANLESS system:

@scottalanmiller said in Files in a LANLESS system:

@Dashrender said in Files in a LANLESS system:

@scottalanmiller said in Files in a LANLESS system:

@Dashrender said in Files in a LANLESS system:

@scottalanmiller said in Files in a LANLESS system:

@Dashrender said in Files in a LANLESS system:

@scottalanmiller said in Files in a LANLESS system:

@Dashrender said in Files in a LANLESS system:

@scottalanmiller let's assume that we get direct application access from Word/Writer into SP or NC, how do you send a link to someone else so they know they have access? How do you register that 'link' in some way so that the correct application launches when trying to open the link?

How do you do it today? Why would it need to change at all?

Paying particular attention to Gene's wording, there would be no more files, only data in a DB. In that case, to send the information via email would mean extracting that data into some kind of usable format then emailing it.

So the contents of the file are simply sent as a file.... that's all a file normally is, a database holding text directly on it with a label on it with the filename. So.... literally nothing changes here under the hood. There is no more or less extraction than before.

You were weren't talking about getting rid of docx files and xlsx files, etc?

Yup, and still am. No files, but that doesn't mean that you can't have a file "view".

But OneDrive, etc still store those things as objects, I don't think you can edit the 'Word.doc' file directly inside the DB, you need to send that object of data to Word to edit it.

As objects, not as files. I don't need to pull the files from OneDrive to edit them. I can talk to the database directly with MS Office 2013 or later, even the online version.

Yeah Office is a bad example because of the massive integration.

Or a good example because it shows how easily it can be done and how well people can't even tell.

LOL - yeah, but you are limited to only MS based files, All other files are just stored as objects in the DB.

Are they? I'm not sure of that. But that's always going to be the case. File systems are for ad hoc, unplanned files. The real question should be... why do such files exist in your environment? When do you actually want ad hoc file types that you didn't expect?

Actually Sharepoint does not natively interface .doc files either. It only uses the new format .docx files in the manner you are saying.

Don't I know it.. I was playing with SharePoint and damn if I didn't have all kinds of problems with DOC files.

@dafyre said in Linux: The Role of DRBD:

@scottalanmiller said in Linux: The Role of DRBD:

I added a header into the main topic list for that. But it is going to be later in the Advanced Topics, section. Oddly, I know of pretty much no standard Linux Administration tomes that cover DRBD. It's so core, very odd that it so often gets missed.

Could it be that most Linux Admin's don't know about it until they go searching for it? ...That's how I found out about it.

You would hope that the people writing the books would know, though!

@poorizad said in Storing Elastix 2 Call Recordings on NFS NAS Share:

@scottalanmiller hi again....i guess the nfs drive is unmount from the server, because no file record on Nas after the 2016/07/28.....nothing changed on settings.....but a few server shutdown for hardware maintenance.....how can i fix it again ?

Try the mount command again. It might mount right up. If the NFS server has restarted, it would disconnect.

@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

Question about the Synology NAS systems... Does their OS reside in Firmware, or does it get loaded onto the drives that are put into the system?

Firmware, you can put completely blank drives in and boot it up to configure the unit however you want.

Thanks.

Added: https://mangolassi.it/topic/9796/how-reliable-is-your-server

@dafyre Amazon Cloud Drive won't blink at 10TB. They say that they expect people to upload their video collections in HD. But it's for personal use only.

@Dashrender said:

Most storage devices in this range also lack the support options that enterprise servers do.

This sentence is the third italicized block of text seems odd.

Fixed, thanks.

thanks, fixed.

@DustinB3403 said:

The performance of the Pi doesn't matter, but the complexity does.

That simply is not a viable option in my opinion.

The second half of my previous post has nothing to do with a Pi. that would be option 3. And I agree, it's probably not with the hassle/complexity of bothering.

With the new partner pricing, maybe I'll have to finally get one of these bad boys to play with.

It is not uncommon to only have servers approved to access the storage listed. So many shops will go in and add a server one by one to enable access. If your servers almost never change, this works pretty well and is extremely secure. You can do this in the firewall too, for even more security. But if you are using DevOps and creating and destroying VMs regularly you will want to automate this in some fashion.

@scottalanmiller said:

@brianlittlejohn said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@anonymous said:

@DustinB3403 Thanks for your help! NFS is case sententive, it is mounted now! 😄

Everything outside of the Windows and DOS worlds is case sensitive. SMB, NFS, URLs, file names, passwords, usernames, everything.

Thats what bugs me about Linux ... I hate case sensitive things.

I'm the opposite, I can't stand that DOS can't tell two characters apart and has "close enough" syntax so that people become sloppy and begin to lose the concept of congruency. I remember dealing with a bunch of students and getting them to understand things like "This", "this" and "t h I s" were not congruent was a real problem. Windows teachers users that exact doesn't mean exact, not always.

I think that is why I like cisco's ios software... i don't have to type the full command... just enough to distinguish it from the other commands available.... I see the benefits of case sensitive, it just will take me a bit to get used to using it as I learn Linux.