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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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      @dafyre said:

      It appears to operate in a similar fashion to P2P is the way it is described on their site. So I'm not 100% certain on that. My home IP is static (or very rarely changes).

      That would still require the controller node to have a static IP. That's how Pertino and Hamachi work, they host the necessarily static portion.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        Learning the tech bits is good, learning the full operational mindset associated is better. Run it like a business rather than like a lab (even though it is a lab.)
        http://www.smbitjournal.com/2015/06/make-your-business-jealous/

        This is fine and I agree, when personal budget allows.

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said:

          A service such as NO-IP would be capable of handling a dynamic IP for VPN service. Not an ideal solution but it is possible.

          I haven't had to set up an IP address for anything to work. I set up my controller and made the network (I can share shell scripts if you are interested) and then told my clients to join the network and it figured everything out.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said:

            A service such as NO-IP would be capable of handling a dynamic IP for VPN service. Not an ideal solution but it is possible.

            that probably would work

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            • W
              WingCreative
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              Setting up Owncloud and/or Pydio is a good way to get comfortable configuring a private cloud. I prefer Pydio myself but Owncloud seems more commonly deployed.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Important to note that many end users call these clouds. But there is no cloud technology or approach in Pydio or ownCloud. There are just fileservers, nothing cloud about them.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Many IT people know what is meant, but many do not. ownCloud having Cloud in their name is very confusing, of course. But it is just a normal application. The Cloud bit is just marketing.

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller
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                    Try and find something that's fun or interesting and furthers your career!

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                    • W
                      WingCreative @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Important to note that many end users call these clouds. But there is no cloud technology or approach in Pydio or ownCloud. There are just fileservers, nothing cloud about them.

                      Good point - I run mine on a hosted VPS and set it up as a sort of private cloud storage, but on a local test lab they would essentially be fancy file server interfaces.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @WingCreative
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                        @WingCreative said:

                        Good point - I run mine on a hosted VPS and set it up as a sort of private cloud storage, but on a local test lab they would essentially be fancy file server interfaces.

                        Even on hosted VPS, nothing cloud about the software or setup. It may or may not have the VPS running on cloud computing, but that's separate under the hood. It's no more cloud than any other software installed to a VPS on the same platform.

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                          WingCreative @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @WingCreative said:

                          Good point - I run mine on a hosted VPS and set it up as a sort of private cloud storage, but on a local test lab they would essentially be fancy file server interfaces.

                          Even on hosted VPS, nothing cloud about the software or setup. It may or may not have the VPS running on cloud computing, but that's separate under the hood. It's no more cloud than any other software installed to a VPS on the same platform.

                          You got me there - I just went on a googling spree to learn the proper definition of cloud computing and found this NIST PDF. I don't see any mention of "a single VM running some software that makes serving files easier" so I am willing to admit that my use of the "private cloud" term may have been buzzwordy 😄

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @WingCreative
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                            @WingCreative said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @WingCreative said:

                            Good point - I run mine on a hosted VPS and set it up as a sort of private cloud storage, but on a local test lab they would essentially be fancy file server interfaces.

                            Even on hosted VPS, nothing cloud about the software or setup. It may or may not have the VPS running on cloud computing, but that's separate under the hood. It's no more cloud than any other software installed to a VPS on the same platform.

                            You got me there - I just went on a googling spree to learn the proper definition of cloud computing and found this NIST PDF. I don't see any mention of "a single VM running some software that makes serving files easier" so I am willing to admit that my use of the "private cloud" term may have been buzzwordy 😄

                            We have a nice video explaining the NIST documentation from SpiceCorps 2012 DFW presented by.... me!

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @WingCreative
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                              @WingCreative When I hear somebody say "Private Cloud" the first thing I think of is a VMware setup... The second is a Hyper-V setup... and the third is a XenServer setup, lol.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                @dafyre said:

                                @WingCreative When I hear somebody say "Private Cloud" the first thing I think of is a VMware setup... The second is a Hyper-V setup... and the third is a XenServer setup, lol.

                                Those would be virtualization but none are cloud on their own. OpenStack, CloudStack, Eucalyptus, etc. would be cloud options.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @dafyre said:

                                  For a home lab environment, the purpose is learning to use it 8-)

                                  Are we sure. That's not the purpose of my home lab. I would state that my purpose is to learn how to use and operate equipment as if it was production. Learning the tech bits is good, learning the full operational mindset associated is better. Run it like a business rather than like a lab (even though it is a lab.)

                                  http://www.smbitjournal.com/2015/06/make-your-business-jealous/

                                  This is great when you have the finances to support it, not everyone does.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    This is great when you have the finances to support it, not everyone does.

                                    Often it is quite cheap and sometimes actually saves money. Like using good routers and APs, some of the best are among the cheapest options. Most people overspend to have less at home. Most small businesses too.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      This is great when you have the finances to support it, not everyone does.

                                      Often it is quite cheap and sometimes actually saves money. Like using good routers and APs, some of the best are among the cheapest options. Most people overspend to have less at home. Most small businesses too.

                                      Clearly considering that ERLs are considered by at least this group the starting point for a router/firewall device. lol why would I need a Cisco again? (joking)

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        lol why would I need a Cisco again? (joking)

                                        No, it's a very serious question. Given that Ubiquiti is faster and often more solid, when would you need a Cisco? In any case where Cisco would start to make sense, there is some solid competition like Juniper.

                                        For the most part, in the SMB world, running Cisco is less valuable than VyOS or about equal to it.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Doing a good job at home and making a business jealous is not just about doing "more", it is also about doing it more cost effectively. Overspending doesn't make people jealous. It's doing things better that does and better, in the IT/business context involves being cost effective.

                                          This is one of the reasons why Ubiquiti often crushes Cisco, more functionality, more performance, more features for a much lower price. A $100 Ubiquiti will often give a $3,000 Cisco a run for its money. In routing, at least.

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre
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                                            Getting this thread slightly more on topic... Another fun project I did in my lab was to set up a SAN using DRBD... It wasn't too teribly difficult and worked suprisingly well, although I never got far enough along to test the failover bits before getting busy again.

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