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@Dashrender said:
As for bundles, sometimes they are better
Nothing inherently wrong with bundles, but companies use them to get people to overbuy more than they would have bought or even moreso.... to get them to be unable to identify a bad value. I've seen people actually argue that paying a 20% premium for a bundle was better than buying the services individually for less money because they thought that "bundling" itself was good.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Nothing inherently wrong with bundles, but companies use them to get people to overbuy more than they would have bought or even moreso...
Bundling is almost never a good deal for the users. It is generally just oversold services that the marketing has convinced you to be cheaper.
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A vendor wouldn't offer a bundle if it didn't cause people to overspend. There is normally a rare customer who would have bought that exact bundle AND a vendor that discounts it. But not all bundles are discounted. The whole point of bundling is to be a sales tactic.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
As for bundles, sometimes they are better
Nothing inherently wrong with bundles, but companies use them to get people to overbuy more than they would have bought or even moreso.... to get them to be unable to identify a bad value. I've seen people actually argue that paying a 20% premium for a bundle was better than buying the services individually for less money because they thought that "bundling" itself was good.
Yeah, you can't win against logic like that... ROFLOL
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@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Nothing inherently wrong with bundles, but companies use them to get people to overbuy more than they would have bought or even moreso...
Bundling is almost never a good deal for the users. It is generally just oversold services that the marketing has convinced you to be cheaper.
Probably true, but if I would have dumped phone service wholesale (which now costs me $12/month) my bill would have gone up by over $30. Of course I could have dumped HBO and the would have been cut in half.
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@Dashrender said:
Yeah, you can't win against logic like that... ROFLOL
And that was from someone with a Master's degree from a top university that consults to Google! It's amazing what simple tricks like "bundling" will play on you.
There was a study done of Harvard MBAs in how to direct them to buying a chosen product. They were taught how the trick would work, then the trick was done to them and most of the MBA students would fall for it anyway (the "middle choice" trick.)
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I will admit that these tactics work on me more than I'm happy about. Though I do really try to think about the options and consider them.
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@Dashrender said:
I will admit that these tactics work on me more than I'm happy about. Though I do really try to think about the options and consider them.
I don't know if there is any mental trick for identifying them. I grew up with a father who was very aware of advertising and marketing and would point it out all the time. Instead of a bundle sounding good to me, I instantly jump to "they are trying to trick me." Having something bundled doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy, it makes me feel like I'm being taken advantage of.
When I hear "nine out of ten dentists recommend toothpaste X", what my brain hears is "Nine out of ten doctors said to just use whatever and one out of ten actually said that using this was bad!"
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@Dashrender said:
Probably true, but if I would have dumped phone service wholesale (which now costs me $12/month) my bill would have gone up by over $30. Of course I could have dumped HBO and the would have been cut in half.
I never said all bundle choices were more expensive, just generally they are overselling. In the terms of cable serives, you are generally paying more for channels you don't want. nothing you can do about it under the current packaging.
Do they not have marketing for "new customers" at lower rates? Be prepared to actually cancel service (not just threaten and be beligerent), and you will get those rates again almost all of the time.
Also, why not sign up for HBO2Go? If you drop the phone and HBO from your package and reduce your bill that much, it sounds to me that you could save money buying HBO directly.
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We only just discovered HBO2Go. I don't want it but the wife is pretty excited.
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@scottalanmiller Can I borrow your password for a few weeks? I need to watch Game of Thrones after I finish the books, lol.
