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    • mlnewsM
      mlnews
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      Another notorious InfoWorld Slideshow: Ten Things that Windows 10 Failed to Fix or Broke

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      • mlnewsM
        mlnews
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        • Lost support for some physical media, Windows 10 lacks significantly compared to Linux distros now.
        • Configuration data is improved but still sprinkled haphazardly all around the system.
        • WiFi Sense
        • Mandatory Updates <- Seriously, this isn't a bad thing Infoworld
        • Schizophrenic browsers <- Not sure what IW suggests be done here
        • Loss of OneDrive Placeholders
        • Windows Defender
        • Windows 10 On Screen Keyboard
        • Windows Store
        • Overall Windows 10 attempts to tweak a bad idea rather than to replace it.
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        • JaredBuschJ
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          I don't do those slide shows so I cannot read their context, but that list is just odd. It makes no sense at all.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            A few of them back sense, some are downright silly or IMHO wrong.

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            • Reid CooperR
              Reid Cooper
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              Infoworld's slideshows as silly as best, often down right horrible. I think that they have interns make them or something. No thought goes into them at all.

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              • nadnerBN
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                What a sorry excuse for an article that was... wait it was a slide show.
                Looks like they are scraping the bottom of the barrel for things to write about.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Their slide shows are always pretty bad. The whole idea of slideshows for something other than pictures is completely ridiculous. There was an article done recently that talked about how top ten lists and slideshows use mental tricks to get people to read them even when the content is almost certainly completely worthless.

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                  • DashrenderD
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                    Interesting list. Some I agree with some I don't.

                    For example, the comparison between Linux and Windows 10 and what they support - The problem as I see it, this is an unfair comparison. Regular people aren't just downloading Linux and installing it, or buying their computer from HP/Dell/Best Buy/New Egg/etc with Linux pre-installed on it. As such MS is going for the everyman, not the specialized person. Linux, as a caterer to the tech elite, need to continue to support those old formats, but Microsoft needs to ensure the typical use, not spend time maintaining fringe devices. Those fringe things can be added by third parties.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      Interesting list. Some I agree with some I don't.

                      For example, the comparison between Linux and Windows 10 and what they support - The problem as I see it, this is an unfair comparison. Regular people aren't just downloading Linux and installing it, or buying their computer from HP/Dell/Best Buy/New Egg/etc with Linux pre-installed on it. As such MS is going for the everyman, not the specialized person. Linux, as a caterer to the tech elite, need to continue to support those old formats, but Microsoft needs to ensure the typical use, not spend time maintaining fringe devices. Those fringe things can be added by third parties.

                      Isn't that kind of the point, though? Linux supports DVDs, Windows does not. Aren't DVDs for the everyman? They certainly aren't for the IT people or the videophiles.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        Interesting list. Some I agree with some I don't.

                        For example, the comparison between Linux and Windows 10 and what they support - The problem as I see it, this is an unfair comparison. Regular people aren't just downloading Linux and installing it, or buying their computer from HP/Dell/Best Buy/New Egg/etc with Linux pre-installed on it. As such MS is going for the everyman, not the specialized person. Linux, as a caterer to the tech elite, need to continue to support those old formats, but Microsoft needs to ensure the typical use, not spend time maintaining fringe devices. Those fringe things can be added by third parties.

                        Isn't that kind of the point, though? Linux supports DVDs, Windows does not. Aren't DVDs for the everyman? They certainly aren't for the IT people or the videophiles.

                        DVD support being dropped so soon does seem odd - but I wouldn't say they are for the everyman any more. Many laptops don't have a DVD drive anymore, sure most desktops do, but I think laptop sales dawf desktop sales... so watching a DVD on your computer is dwindling. But yes, I agree MS got rid of it one version to soon.

                        Though, if you had media center in Windows 7 or 8, 8.1 you do get a DVD player in Windows 10 when you upgrade (though I don't know how you get it back if you do a full reinstall?).

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          Interesting list. Some I agree with some I don't.

                          For example, the comparison between Linux and Windows 10 and what they support - The problem as I see it, this is an unfair comparison. Regular people aren't just downloading Linux and installing it, or buying their computer from HP/Dell/Best Buy/New Egg/etc with Linux pre-installed on it. As such MS is going for the everyman, not the specialized person. Linux, as a caterer to the tech elite, need to continue to support those old formats, but Microsoft needs to ensure the typical use, not spend time maintaining fringe devices. Those fringe things can be added by third parties.

                          Isn't that kind of the point, though? Linux supports DVDs, Windows does not. Aren't DVDs for the everyman? They certainly aren't for the IT people or the videophiles.

                          DVD support being dropped so soon does seem odd - but I wouldn't say they are for the everyman any more. Many laptops don't have a DVD drive anymore, sure most desktops do, but I think laptop sales dawf desktop sales... so watching a DVD on your computer is dwindling. But yes, I agree MS got rid of it one version to soon.

                          Though, if you had media center in Windows 7 or 8, 8.1 you do get a DVD player in Windows 10 when you upgrade (though I don't know how you get it back if you do a full reinstall?).

                          Windows 10 specifically removes the DVD option from both the standard OS and removes the Media Center option completely.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            Interesting list. Some I agree with some I don't.

                            For example, the comparison between Linux and Windows 10 and what they support - The problem as I see it, this is an unfair comparison. Regular people aren't just downloading Linux and installing it, or buying their computer from HP/Dell/Best Buy/New Egg/etc with Linux pre-installed on it. As such MS is going for the everyman, not the specialized person. Linux, as a caterer to the tech elite, need to continue to support those old formats, but Microsoft needs to ensure the typical use, not spend time maintaining fringe devices. Those fringe things can be added by third parties.

                            Isn't that kind of the point, though? Linux supports DVDs, Windows does not. Aren't DVDs for the everyman? They certainly aren't for the IT people or the videophiles.

                            DVD support being dropped so soon does seem odd - but I wouldn't say they are for the everyman any more. Many laptops don't have a DVD drive anymore, sure most desktops do, but I think laptop sales dawf desktop sales... so watching a DVD on your computer is dwindling. But yes, I agree MS got rid of it one version to soon.

                            Though, if you had media center in Windows 7 or 8, 8.1 you do get a DVD player in Windows 10 when you upgrade (though I don't know how you get it back if you do a full reinstall?).

                            Windows 10 specifically removes the DVD option from both the standard OS and removes the Media Center option completely.

                            Yes i know, but, if you had Media Center in Windows 7 ,8 or 8.1 you can get a DVD player in Windows 10. though you don't get Media Center back.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              Yes i know, but, if you had Media Center in Windows 7 ,8 or 8.1 you can get a DVD player in Windows 10. though you don't get Media Center back.

                              Oh I missed that, it will carry through in an upgrade?

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Yes i know, but, if you had Media Center in Windows 7 ,8 or 8.1 you can get a DVD player in Windows 10. though you don't get Media Center back.

                                Oh I missed that, it will carry through in an upgrade?

                                Yes. There are instructions out there on what you should do before you upgrade to windows 10 if you want to ensure that you get the free DVD player.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Oh cool, that's not super awesome, but it is better than I thought.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Oh cool, that's not super awesome, but it is better than I thought.

                                    The flip side of that is - if your computer came with a DVD drive, it probably came with some software for playing DVDs. You should still be able to use that software in Windows 10.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      The flip side of that is - if your computer came with a DVD drive, it probably came with some software for playing DVDs. You should still be able to use that software in Windows 10.

                                      Never software that you would want installed, though.

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                                      • Minion QueenM
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                                        I don't use a DVD player anymore in a computer. Between Amazon Prime, Hulu and Netflix there is no reason to have a dvd for anything. And if I do at some point need one I have an external one around somewhere I could use.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Neither do I, I don't have any machines with DVD drives either. But for average users, for your parents or the neighbours or whatever, having the computer play DVDs was a fairly normal thing, I think.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            Business computer users and gamers, not so much.

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