Microsoft Send
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
We have installed it here and are playing with it. First impressions: so yeah it sends instant messages that I have already gotten on my phone to my inbox, well that's sorta cool so that I can search things later, but it's only the what you have received side of the conversation.
Nope, it's both. Don't limit your search to only the received folder. Works like any IM to email system like this. I've got both sides of the conversation in my email.
So it does... interesting. Thanks for pointing that out. the messages I sent are in the sent folder...
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Oh see I didn't see that. Yuck so no I am getting too many emails for something stupid
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Actually, I'm loving Send. After all my complaints about texting and what a horrible idea it is, this seems to check all the boxes that people gave as reasons that they wanted to use an antiquated telephony technology instead of "that new fangled Internet thing."
I've literally been told that people text because they can't handle subject lines, sometimes that was the only reason (those aren't required but people always ignored that.) This gives a text interface to the email system but still works for people with only email. It really does give texting to the people who want texting and email as the general carrier. Honestly, it is kind of awesome.
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@scottalanmiller said:
This supports my "there is no reason to be using text" rants
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I haven't see these rants - can you share one? no.. please share one.
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@Minion-Queen said:
Oh see I didn't see that. Yuck so no I am getting too many emails for something stupid
Yeah this app is just dumb as of right now.Make a filter for it. Getting emails is the right thing, they just need to be managed properly.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
This supports my "there is no reason to be using text" rants
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I haven't see these rants - can you share one? no.. please share one.
I'll repost as I put a bit of effort into it.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Oh see I didn't see that. Yuck so no I am getting too many emails for something stupid
Yeah this app is just dumb as of right now.Make a filter for it. Getting emails is the right thing, they just need to be managed properly.
Do you use the conversation view as your default?
I tend to really dislike the conversation view in Outlook - on my phone it works pretty well, but I seem to lose things when using the view in Outlook on my desktop. -
@Dashrender -- I do use the Outlook converstation view... but you are right. Some times the conversations will collapse and others they will not, and you have to click the > to make it work right.
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I had disabled conversation view on my desktop a bit ago. Once I turned that back on send makes a bit more sense now. It's great on my phone too (iPhone). So that makes it a little better. But it's still one more application to use. So not sure it's worth a whole ton right now.
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@Minion-Queen said:
I had disabled conversation view on my desktop a bit ago. Once I turned that back on send makes a bit more sense now. It's great on my phone too (iPhone). So that makes it a little better. But it's still one more application to use. So not sure it's worth a whole ton right now.
That's the idea.... not to be one more application, but to be one fewer. No need to text for work now. Now just two interfaces to one system and no necessity to have the phone by you when working because the "texts" are part of the email and you can read them with the email client. It doesn't just eliminate an app platform, it eliminates an entire physical device and separate network!
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Once they get a Send interface for the desktop, I think the value of this app will really shine. They need to build it into OWA.
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Yes I think that is what it is missing is a desktop app.
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@scottalanmiller They should also make it part of Outlook... Any reason they couldn't make Skype for Business do this? (or just Skype in general)?
I don't have an iPhone so I have to wait for them to come out with an Android Phone version. This could also make sense as a Windows 10 metro app.
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller They should also make it part of Outlook... Any reason they couldn't make Skype for Business do this? (or just Skype in general)?
I don't have an iPhone so I have to wait for them to come out with an Android Phone version. This could also make sense as a Windows 10 metro app.
Agreed - all business apps need to bring this 'chatting via text' into a single interface.
There are a few apps that try to do this on the phone side - bridge texting and IMing into one - What's App comes to mind.
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller They should also make it part of Outlook... Any reason they couldn't make Skype for Business do this? (or just Skype in general)?
I don't have an iPhone so I have to wait for them to come out with an Android Phone version. This could also make sense as a Windows 10 metro app.
Skype is a different platform. This is not, this is just an interface to email for those people, and there are a lot of them, that have complained about how "hard" email is. This leverages the core infrastructure of communications in a different way, but the value is in that it is still all a single system and just end users choosing to use it differently.
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I've talked to my physicians about using a secure text client, but the push back was that they didn't want to have to maintain two apps for the same function. i.e. chatting with family vs chatting with other physicians and staff.
As far as I can tell though, considering the secure requirement of Personal Health Information (PHI) and unlikeliness of getting everyone in the world to switch to a single secure texting platform, I don't see this happening. They will be forced to use two separate apps.
In my case, fortunately a huge name in healthcare, Epocrates, has created a free secure text client that any physician can use. Even better, as physicians join, they are all able to find and text each through the app.
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@Dashrender said:
I've talked to my physicians about using a secure text client, but the push back was that they didn't want to have to maintain two apps for the same function. i.e. chatting with family vs chatting with other physicians and staff.
How do they deal with phone call security and email security then? Wouldn't the same issues apply?
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@Dashrender said:
As far as I can tell though, considering the secure requirement of Personal Health Information (PHI) and unlikeliness of getting everyone in the world to switch to a single secure texting platform, I don't see this happening. They will be forced to use two separate apps.
You could always secure text messages. That would be the most annoying thing ever
Imagine a third part encryption scheme for SMS!!Or course it would either be crazy insecure or would break the 144 character limitation.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller They should also make it part of Outlook... Any reason they couldn't make Skype for Business do this? (or just Skype in general)?
I don't have an iPhone so I have to wait for them to come out with an Android Phone version. This could also make sense as a Windows 10 metro app.
Skype is a different platform. This is not, this is just an interface to email for those people, and there are a lot of them, that have complained about how "hard" email is. This leverages the core infrastructure of communications in a different way, but the value is in that it is still all a single system and just end users choosing to use it differently.
Hard - wow - and texting is easier? only because has no subject line? shakes head in shame!
We have the opposite problem here - people don't put anything in the body and only type their messages into the subject line.
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@Dashrender said:
In my case, fortunately a huge name in healthcare, Epocrates, has created a free secure text client that any physician can use. Even better, as physicians join, they are all able to find and text each through the app.
It's really just a third party IM tool though, right? It's not actually related to texting, not sure it could possibly be.
Microsoft has done the same thing here for free. Secure text-like functionality through the existing security system that is already approved (if you have O365 for email, of course.)
