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    • MattSpellerM
      MattSpeller @creayt
      last edited by MattSpeller

      @creayt poke around in the bios to see if there's any options related to video. Also check and see if it has the most recent bios. Sounds like a compat issue

      Edit: 600w PSU shouldn't have any issues running even a greedy gfx card + all the other bits.

      Edit2: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

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      • creaytC
        creayt @MattSpeller
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        @MattSpeller said:

        @creayt poke around in the bios to see if there's any options related to video. Also check and see if it has the most recent bios. Sounds like a compat issue

        Edit: 600w PSU shouldn't have any issues running even a greedy gfx card + all the other bits.

        Edit2: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

        Will do. Could it be related to the fact that I boot off of an add-in SATA 3 card? And any important change in the hardware breaks it? I'll scan the bios tonight, thanks.

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        • creaytC
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          • creaytC
            creayt
            last edited by creayt

            Any chance that the issue is the motherboard? The T110.2 is a SMB tower server meant to be run without a graphics card in general I'd presume. The mobo doesn't even come w/ Sata III.

            Specs: http://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/shared-content/data-sheets/en/Documents/Dell-PowerEdge-T110II-SpecSheet.pdf

            4 PCIe 2.0 slots:
            Two x8 slots
            One x4 slot
            One x1 slot

            I wonder if the cards that failed all required a 3.0 slot, or a x16?

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @creayt
              last edited by

              @creayt shouldn't matter, at least I know my setup works with a 3.0 card in a 2.0 slot

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              • ?
                A Former User @creayt
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                @creayt said:

                Any chance that the issue is the motherboard? The T110.2 is a SMB tower server meant to be run without a graphics card in general I'd presume. The mobo doesn't even come w/ Sata III.

                Specs: http://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/shared-content/data-sheets/en/Documents/Dell-PowerEdge-T110II-SpecSheet.pdf

                4 PCIe 2.0 slots:
                Two x8 slots
                One x4 slot
                One x1 slot

                I wonder if the cards that failed all required a 3.0 slot, or a x16?

                No PCIe X16 could be the issue. Most card will run at lower speeds in 2.0 slots but, they might need the lanes of the x16 slots.

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                • creaytC
                  creayt
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                  So there was a setting in the BIOS to change the integrated video from standard to distributed, which I changed to distributed. The only other card I have handy is the Quadro K220 which has no power connector and expects its fuel from the PCIe slot. The graphics slot on this board only gets you 25w though so that may be the issue w/ that one. I might try purchasing another card off of Amazon or something to try it out, though it's doing the same thing w/ the solid underscore instead of any boot sequence. Sure wish I had another card lying around.

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                  • creaytC
                    creayt
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                    The weird thing about this board is it's a PCIe G2 x8 slot w/ x16 connectors and a max of 25w.

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                    • creaytC
                      creayt
                      last edited by creayt

                      I think I'll discard the unchewed bullet and stick it out until I build the new system as-is. I'm technically able to run all 3x 2560x1440 monitors w/ the 5750 running one through display port and a D3100 dock running the other 2, but the 2nd monitor through the dock is only running at 50 Hz and it's killing me. Some people say it shouldn't be perceptible ( some programmers even claim to work on a 30Hz 4k setup, wtf? ) but to me it's completely palpable w/ the cursor tracking and keyboard input appearing. I'm going to hunt down a dual-link DVI cable and see if the 5750 can't power 2 at 60Hz.

                      But then as soon as the new procs and mobos are out, it's upgrade time.

                      For the record, the 14 core Precision actually felt less responsive than this t110.2. It was very noticeable for me. So SCREW any processor w/ a baseline speed of less than 3.3.

                      Again, thanks everyone for your help and input on this. @MattSpeller, I'll definitely be spamming you for advice and insight as I dig into the puzzle of jaw-dropping performance on a budget.

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                      • creaytC
                        creayt
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                        Also if anyone has any tips on where to start in learning to system build the GF is going in on it w/ me and we'll be building our own desktops side by side, and she'd like to start w/ 101. Thanks.

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                        • MattSpellerM
                          MattSpeller @creayt
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                          @creayt pcpartpicker.com --> has compatibility filter built in, makes it harder to screw up and faster to build out stuff

                          tomshardware.com --> best ___ for the money monthly charts are awesome, example below
                          http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html

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                          • creaytC
                            creayt @MattSpeller
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                            @MattSpeller said:

                            @creayt pcpartpicker.com --> has compatibility filter built in, makes it harder to screw up and faster to build out stuff

                            tomshardware.com --> best ___ for the money monthly charts are awesome, example below
                            http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html

                            Very nice! I didn't realize it had compatibility validation. That's hardcore. Thanks.

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                            • creaytC
                              creayt
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                              Eureka. Apparently you have to.. wait for it... downgrade the bios.

                              http://level7systems.co.uk/en/dell_poweredge_t110_ii_and_pcie_video_card/

                              Going to try this and then throw the Quadro back in there. Fingers crossed.

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                              • creaytC
                                creayt
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                                Did a bit of soldering and wired 4 of those M2s together into a Raid 0.

                                evo.png

                                JK. That's an 850 Pro in rapid mode.

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                                • Reid CooperR
                                  Reid Cooper
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                                  That's completely insane. 4.5GB/s!!

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                                  • creaytC
                                    creayt @creayt
                                    last edited by creayt

                                    @creayt said:

                                    Eureka. Apparently you have to.. wait for it... downgrade the bios.

                                    http://level7systems.co.uk/en/dell_poweredge_t110_ii_and_pcie_video_card/

                                    Going to try this and then throw the Quadro back in there. Fingers crossed.

                                    The bios downgrade didn't work, but further research suggests that the PCIe slot is only 8x ( but has connectors for 16 to fit a graphics card ) and provides a maximum of 25w through the slot. Because the Quadro I tried doesn't have a 6 pin power connector I'm thinking that's the problem with that setup, it just can't get enough juice through the slot.

                                    I'm going to order two other cards off of Amazon, one with a low wattage and one w/ a 6-pin hole and see if either works.

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                                    • creaytC
                                      creayt
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                                      Well F my F-ing life even the 26w card didn't work. Fan spun off of the power from the PCIe slot, but same BS w/ the solid underscore instead of boot sequence. Guess it's time to build a new rig.

                                      :rage4:

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                                      • mlnewsM
                                        mlnews
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                                        😞 That sucks. Sorry.

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                                        • creaytC
                                          creayt @creayt
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                                          @creayt said:

                                          evo.png

                                          Looks like my dual-core laptop w/ an 840 Evo isn't too far off.
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                                          • creaytC
                                            creayt
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                                            Sent the Precision back.

                                            So scratch what I said earlier, this is my new case:
                                            scratch.jpg

                                            And my new plan is to attempt to get just a new motherboard and a new graphics card and transplant the T110's internals to it while I strategize and build skills for an OC Skylake build. That said, I need a little guidance:

                                            1. You can transplant procs from one motherboard to another, right?

                                            2. I'm a big foggy on sockets. My proc is a Xeon E3-1240 v2, which Intel.com lists as FCLGA1155. But, I'm only seeing LGA1155 sockets on, say, NewEgg. Googled it a bit and most people say "The Xeons should work in LGA1155 boards", but I'd like to be sure before buying because: restocking fees.

                                            Thanks!

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