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      A Former User
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      Unlikely to be a desktop with a Xeon unless it's a workstation class motherboard. Specs are listed for each package. What are you planning on doing with it? I would spend that much per month if it was me. $700/year.

      Intel E3-1220 v3 4 Cores x 3.1 GHz
      8 GB DDR3 RAM
      500 GB HDD
      10 TB Bandwidth
      $58.88/mo

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        nadnerB @A Former User
        last edited by nadnerB

        @thecreativeone91 I know someone with a xeon in their gaming rig in an off the shelf mini-ITX motherboard.
         
        Those specs don't inspire confidence in it being anymore than a desktop in a tin shed

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          scottalanmiller @A Former User
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          @thecreativeone91 said:

          Unlikely to be a desktop with a Xeon unless it's a workstation class motherboard. Specs are listed for each package. What are you planning on doing with it? I would spend that much per month if it was me. $700/year.

          Intel E3-1220 v3 4 Cores x 3.1 GHz
          8 GB DDR3 RAM
          500 GB HDD
          10 TB Bandwidth
          $58.88/mo

          Xeon is easy enough to get in a desktop. Especially if they are doing whitebox desktops. I've been in datacenters doing this stuff. Unless a DMIDECODE returns a server board name, you can bet these are consumer boards with Xeon chips on them. If you don't know what the server is, they aren't spending the money to get you something good.

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            A Former User @scottalanmiller
            last edited by A Former User

            @scottalanmiller said:

            Seems cheap. But if they don't guarantee the hardware, chances are these are low end desktops.

            What? Dell PowerEdge R220 with Intel C222 Chipset is a low end desktop?

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              A Former User @nadnerB
              last edited by A Former User

              @nadnerB said:

              @thecreativeone91 I know someone with a xeon in their gaming rig in an off the shelf mini-ITX motherboard.
               
              Those specs don't inspire confidence in it being anymore than a desktop in a tin shed

              They might have it in it, but features of the CPU are disabled without proper support from the motherboard. My desktop has 2x Intel Xeons but It's a workstation class, that has a better motherboard than most servers. Advertising a CPU is available but not stated features are disabled on it would be sketchy to me.

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                A Former User @A Former User
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                @Aaron-Studer said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                Seems cheap. But if they don't guarantee the hardware, chances are these are low end desktops.

                What? Dell PowerEdge R220 with Intel C222 Chipset is a low end desktop?

                Low end server, nothing to brag about. Not horrible though. They are used all the time for extra Domain controllers and such.

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                  A Former User
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                  Maybe I should buy a dedicated server and start a cloudatcost clone, haha!

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                    A Former User @A Former User
                    last edited by

                    @Aaron-Studer said:

                    Maybe I should buy a dedicated server and start a cloudatcost clone, haha!

                    I dobut you can run ESXi on them. It says if you manage there's a list of OSes to choose from. If they Manage it's CentOS or CloudLinux only. With windows you might be able to do hyper-v if VT-x is enabled. It doesn't sound like you get access to the BIOS.

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                      A Former User @A Former User
                      last edited by A Former User

                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                      I dobut you can run ESXi on them. It says if you manage there's a list of OSes to choose from. If they Manage it's CentOS or CloudLinux only. With windows you might be able to do hyper-v if VT-x is enabled. It doesn't sound like you get access to the BIOS.

                      I was going to use XenServer or KVM

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @A Former User
                        last edited by

                        @Aaron-Studer said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Seems cheap. But if they don't guarantee the hardware, chances are these are low end desktops.

                        What? Dell PowerEdge R220 with Intel C222 Chipset is a low end desktop?

                        Is that what they are using? How did you find out?

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                          A Former User @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Is that what they are using? How did you find out?

                          Scroll down more, toward the bottom.

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                            scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                            @Aaron-Studer said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Is that what they are using? How did you find out?

                            Scroll down more, toward the bottom.

                            I did and I did a text search, the words "Dell", "PowerEdge" and "r220" don't appear on it.

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                              A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Aaron-Studer said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Is that what they are using? How did you find out?

                              Scroll down more, toward the bottom.

                              I did and I did a text search, the words "Dell", "PowerEdge" and "r220" don't appear on it.

                              You don't look hard enough.

                              Capture.PNG

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @A Former User
                                last edited by

                                @Aaron-Studer said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Seems cheap. But if they don't guarantee the hardware, chances are these are low end desktops.

                                What? Dell PowerEdge R220 with Intel C222 Chipset is a low end desktop?

                                I can buy those refurbed (which is what you get in a case like this, or just used, actually) for $499. So while the price here is pretty good, it's not good enough for me to want to use. I'd rather own the server and do colocation than to have to pay monthly for a server of this nature.

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                                  scottalanmiller @A Former User
                                  last edited by

                                  @thecreativeone91 said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Aaron-Studer said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Is that what they are using? How did you find out?

                                  Scroll down more, toward the bottom.

                                  I did and I did a text search, the words "Dell", "PowerEdge" and "r220" don't appear on it.

                                  You don't look hard enough.

                                  Capture.PNG

                                  That doesn't appear on the EU page that they show to us here. And the prices are in Euros too.

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                                    A Former User @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @thecreativeone91 said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Aaron-Studer said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Is that what they are using? How did you find out?

                                    Scroll down more, toward the bottom.

                                    I did and I did a text search, the words "Dell", "PowerEdge" and "r220" don't appear on it.

                                    You don't look hard enough.

                                    Capture.PNG

                                    That doesn't appear on the EU page that they show to us here. And the prices are in Euros too.

                                    Odd that they auto change sites based on location. What if I was over there buying something on behalf of a US company.

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                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Aaron-Studer said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Seems cheap. But if they don't guarantee the hardware, chances are these are low end desktops.

                                      What? Dell PowerEdge R220 with Intel C222 Chipset is a low end desktop?

                                      I can buy those refurbed (which is what you get in a case like this, or just used, actually) for $499. So while the price here is pretty good, it's not good enough for me to want to use. I'd rather own the server and do colocation than to have to pay monthly for a server of this nature.

                                      Per our previous discussion, The colocation alone would cost you more than they are charging for a dedicated server. How is the financially wise?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Aaron-Studer said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Is that what they are using? How did you find out?

                                        Scroll down more, toward the bottom.

                                        I did and I did a text search, the words "Dell", "PowerEdge" and "r220" don't appear on it.

                                        You don't look hard enough.

                                        Capture.PNG

                                        That doesn't appear on the EU page that they show to us here. And the prices are in Euros too.

                                        Odd that they auto change sites based on location. What if I was over there buying something on behalf of a US company.

                                        You'd think twice before doing business with someone so consumer focused then 😉

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                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Aaron-Studer said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          Seems cheap. But if they don't guarantee the hardware, chances are these are low end desktops.

                                          What? Dell PowerEdge R220 with Intel C222 Chipset is a low end desktop?

                                          I can buy those refurbed (which is what you get in a case like this, or just used, actually) for $499. So while the price here is pretty good, it's not good enough for me to want to use. I'd rather own the server and do colocation than to have to pay monthly for a server of this nature.

                                          Per our previous discussion, The colocation alone would cost you more than they are charging for a dedicated server. How is the financially wise?

                                          Apples and Oranges again. This is not an enterprise, top tier datacenter service. This is a low cost, dirt cheap, hosting service. If I was going to use hardware of this low quality (this is entry level gear and not current) and low end hosting, I would save money. I can't get the best datacenter in the country with 24x7 concierge support and 100% uptime SLA for cheaper, no, but that's not what this is.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            Also, we've gotten enterprise 1U colocation for $50 before. Just have to wait for a sale. Prices we were talking in the other thread were full price "rack" rates. Not existing customer or sale rates. And they are based on the top datacenter around, one used by the global investment banks with ties directly to the trading floor and stock exchange. You can definitely get cheaper and still be really good.

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