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    Choosing a Cloud Computing IaaS Provider

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Of the ones that I have tested (which is all but Vultr) it is Rackspace and Digital Ocean that make the most sense for the SMB market where DevOps models are uncommon and unnecessary. These players encourage traditional "snowflake" administration practices.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Update: Originally had another vendor on this list as an "untested, but have heard good things." We did test and immediately found them to be unstable and not appropriate for this list. So the list has been appended.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Full stack players I define as those that are equipped to handle an entire infrastructure with dedicated firewalls, load balancers, VPN connections and similar. They use a cloud to build an entire infrastructure like you would traditionally. These are the ones meant to be used "as a cloud" with full scale, production, enterprise applications being run there.

          VPS players use a cloud architecture (in this list) to provide "Virtual Private Servers." They are basically providing a legacy service but use a modern infrastructure to do it. They offer nothing but servers and leave it to you to build out any infrastructure that you need, which generally means that most features are simply unavailable.

          For the SMB market, most are only looking for VPS and are not even aware of how a cloud is meant to be used, so a VPS provider may be ideal. This is not a negative. In the same way that they do not offer a full stack, they do offer a console. None of the full stack players offer that any longer.

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          • ?
            A Former User
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            Rackspace has a $50/Month Minimum.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @A Former User
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              @Aaron-Studer said:

              Rackspace has a $50/Month Minimum.

              That's for managed services, doesn't apply to IaaS. If you don't want them to manage stuff for you and just want IaaS, there is no minimum.

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                A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller I went around and around with them yesterday, and they said $50/month was the minimum for all packages.... Maybe the person on chat was confused.

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                  Deleted74295 Banned @A Former User
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                  @Aaron-Studer said:

                  @scottalanmiller I went around and around with them yesterday, and they said $50/month was the minimum for all packages.... Maybe the person on chat was confused.

                  I've had that before, Switch to emails, put it in writing, then they'll relent. Rackspace are terrible for hard-upsells.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                    @Aaron-Studer said:

                    @scottalanmiller I went around and around with them yesterday, and they said $50/month was the minimum for all packages.... Maybe the person on chat was confused.

                    Very strange. Did you try just buying the IaaS by the hour package, rather than talking to someone?

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                    • ?
                      A Former User
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                      Wow. Ive never paid that much. Granted I know a lot of people at rack space. It's like 20min from me to there datacenter and office here.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                        Wow. Ive never paid that much. Granted I know a lot of people at rack space. It's like 20min from me to there datacenter and office here.

                        I've definitely gotten stuff below that price. I'm going to reach out to RS managers and see what the deal is. It's possible that a new minimum has been introduced, but that makes no sense at all.

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                        • ?
                          A Former User
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                          Is this the wrong signup page?

                          2015-05-14 09_24_16-Rackspace Cloud Sign-ups _ Create an Account.png

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                            Deleted74295 Banned
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                            That's the managed infrastructure, you want unmanaged infrastructure. Contact them directly.

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                              A Former User @Deleted74295
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                              @Breffni-Potter I told them I wanted unmanaged, and they said this is the best they could do 😞

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                              • ?
                                A Former User @A Former User
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                                @Aaron-Studer for a company or for yourself. Maybe they just don't like doing unmanaged for individuals.

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                                  Deleted74295 Banned
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                                  @Aaron-Studer said:

                                  @Breffni-Potter I told them I wanted unmanaged, and they said this is the best they could do 😞

                                  Was that over live-chat? Have you tried phone/email methods? Sounds very dodgy.

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User @A Former User
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                                    @thecreativeone91 For myself.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      I went through some different links and @Aaron-Studer might be right, they might have abandoned the old model. Looks like they might be exiting the serious IaaS game, which is sad. Might be time to narrow the field to just Amazon and Azure. Rackspace's value has been dwindling for some time. Their value has been mostly around ease of use. So their niche was going away.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Rackspace is getting squeezed between Amazon for full stack features and Digital Ocean for low cost ones and VPS. RS' spot in the middle with their super poorly paid technical staff and struggles to maintain late night (US) support is probably make them panic.

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                                        • ?
                                          A Former User
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                                          They pay near min wage here. Sys Admins/Linux Admin/Network admins are like $10/hr or so.

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                                            A Former User
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                                            Tom K: Hello, welcome to Rackspace. My name is Tom, may I get your name and contact information in case we get disconnected?
                                            You: http://mangolassi.it/topic/4921/choosing-a-cloud-computing-iaas-provider
                                            You: Please review and provide comments 🙂
                                            Tom K: I'd say that is pretty accurate and why we are the #1 Managed cloud-enabled company in the US and Europe!
                                            Tom K: What are your takes on it?
                                            You: Did you read the whole thing? I think not...
                                            **You: **Do you offer somehing less then $50 a month?
                                            Tom K: $50/mo in our minimum service level.
                                            You: What about unmanaged?
                                            **Tom K: **We don't provide any unmanaged services.
                                            **You: **That's very sad.

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