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    Unitrends Redefines "Free" Virtual Backup

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    • ?
      A Former User
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      Update: I tried it on a licensed esxi box and it did not work very well, I'm testing it on Hyper-V now and it works great.

      Also not that by default it is 500GB not 1TB. You have to create a forum account tied to the install to get the 1TB of data you can protect.

      The interface is a million times better than the old UEB. Unfortunately, the Unitrends twitter feed is embeded and I haven't found a way to disable it yet. The HTML5 interface does not work in IE or Project Spartan, not that I plan on using it in either. It works fine in chrome.

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        Deleted74295 Banned
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        It seems a bit too much like the Spiceworks model.

        Give away a free app but make it compulsory to join the community/get adverts.

        I'll try the product in a lab but I'm a bit wary of it.

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        • ?
          A Former User
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          what's the cost to unlock the 1tb limit? and if I had 3 hosts, would I need 3 license?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @A Former User
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            @Hubtech said:

            and if I had 3 hosts, would I need 3 license?

            The license is a capacity license. Nothing more. There are no other limits. A million hosts, a billion sockets, as long as the capacity being backed up doesn't go over 1TB.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @A Former User
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              @Hubtech said:

              what's the cost to unlock the 1tb limit?

              You just purchase UEB normally at that point. You go to the normal UEB licensing costs.

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              • ?
                A Former User
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                OK, what makes a good target for these types of backups? tape? NAS? what's your favorite flavor everyone?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                  @Hubtech said:

                  OK, what makes a good target for these types of backups? tape? NAS? what's your favorite flavor everyone?

                  NAS is best for nearly all factors but one..... CryptoLocker and similar encryption attacks. Online NAS can be vulnerable to this in some cases. Thankfully UEB runs on Linux and so is a huge air gap in code between a Windows attack and your data. But the NAS has to be exclusive to UEB, not connected or allowed to connect to other systems or a desktop infection of CL could wipe out your backups (we've seen it actually happen with Veeam.)

                  If you consider the risks and isolate the system properly, NAS is great because it is fast, flexible and always online (fast to back up, fast to restore, no extra human intervention.)

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Tape is super expensive and requires a lot of manual work and carries a lot of risks except that it is 100% effective against things like CryptoLocker even without you needing to do anything special.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Cloud can be good, but can carry the NAS risks. Cloud also carries higher cost for large backups and slow restore times. But it is super flexible and can easily restore to disparate locations.

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                      • ?
                        A Former User
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                        And how much for a license?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                          @Hubtech said:

                          And how much for a license?

                          That answer is easy.... call your Unitrends partner and ask. It's not a set price like a soda at McDonald's. You have to get the current price and the current deals and all that.

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                            A Former User @Deleted74295
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                            @Breffni-Potter said:

                            It seems a bit too much like the Spiceworks model.

                            Give away a free app but make it compulsory to join the community/get adverts.

                            I'll try the product in a lab but I'm a bit wary of it.

                            Agreed. I'll stick with the 500gb version. I don't care to have random accounts tied to my email that I don't use. Also unitrends is big on using all information for sales calls. The current free UEB was like that. Nonstop sales calls. I don't want that started again.

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                            • Deleted74295D
                              Deleted74295 Banned @A Former User
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                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              Nonstop sales calls. I don't want that started again.

                              They'll have real fun with me, I've got a little black book of choice replies to cold calls.

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                              • StrongBadS
                                StrongBad
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                                I assume that using a fake email will work? Or just a spam account.

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                                  Deleted74295 Banned
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                                  @StrongBad said:

                                  I assume that using a fake email will work? Or just a spam account.

                                  Ha, the worst nightmare of these marketing products. Fake data.

                                  "Look we have 1 million trackable leads!"
                                  "Um...they are @zoo.com addresses"

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                                  • StrongBadS
                                    StrongBad @Deleted74295
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                                    @Breffni-Potter They have to expect that.

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User
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                                      You likely have to verify the email to use it.

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                                      • Deleted74295D
                                        Deleted74295 Banned
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                                        @StrongBad - It was hilarious, a few guys were talking about how you can get a 5TB backup by doing exactly that at Spiceworld.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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                                          @Breffni-Potter said:

                                          @StrongBad - It was hilarious, a few guys were talking about how you can get a 5TB backup by doing exactly that at Spiceworld.

                                          That's silly since they said that they were not monitoring it and they were just trusting you to only use 1TB as it is. So going through that effort and tainting their database to get more than the allotted amount doesn't seem to serve any purpose. They could just use more than 1TB anyway since it is the honour system.

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                                            Deleted74295 Banned
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            That's silly since they said that they were not monitoring it and they were just trusting you to only use 1TB as it is.

                                            The type of people to do this generally don't care, they were fairly vocal about it yesterday. I just find that mentality so funny, their first reaction is how to cheat the system.

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