How many software vs hardware people?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@BMarie said:
That's a god idea! I see that most work at NTG!
LOL, not most. But NTG does primarily hire only people with the discipline and desire to be active in social communities. It's a great way to "interview" people months or years before hiring them, know who lives where, what people are interested in, that their dedication to IT is a long term thing and not a passing fad, how they interact with others, etc. It's actually incredibly effective.
NTG did just hire someone in Kentucky too!!
I know He's our IT guy, he's the one who told me about this site. And I have to say it's defiently helped out a lot and I'm getting a lot of feed back, help & info!.
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LOL. Okay, that's muy perfecto then
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And we are happy to have him!
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Does this present an opportunity to step into his shoes where you are now, then?
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@scottalanmiller said:
Does this present an opportunity to step into his shoes where you are now, then?
It probably does, just don't know if I'll have what they are looking for. I have been here 2 years and done a lot.....Didn't really think about it. But they are hiring two now for his job. Two full timers. It's something I can look into, can't take to long though. He is leaving April 3rd after all.
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Start talking to them now. Explain that you have the background to be the junior position of the two. They know you already - that's a bird in the hand. Tell them that you will work on being trained and mentored as time allows, starting immediately, so that you are ready to hit the ground running and minimize the loss of tribal knowledge making for the smoothest possible transition.
Make the case for yourself. Think about the ways that you have advantages that no one else has ..... like knowledge of how things used to work, time to be trained, training, history with the company, existing relationships with the business, etc. The time to train you is minimal compared to someone completely new and the amount of trust built up in you is large instead of needing to trust the keys to the kingdom with someone that they just met.
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And you will have access to the person leaving though ML!
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Ya'll are lighting a fire under my ass......THANK YOU!
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Start on your resume tonight. Get it polished as much as possible. But they've seen it before, might not even matter. Figure out anything that you are missing skills or experience in, this is your chance to read up on those things, ask questions, etc. so that when they ask you if you are prepared for those things you can honestly say that while you aren't completely skilled you have taken the initiative to start learning about them and have familiarity not only with them in general but with the specific details as they apply to where you work today.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Start talking to them now. Explain that you have the background to be the junior position of the two. They know you already - that's a bird in the hand.
Hopefully that works there if it's a good company. A lot of companies always think they are going to get more than they do from someone new. I'm not sure why they never learn from that.
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@scottalanmiller said:
But if you do nothing but install memory, build computers, screw things together, etc. that's called bench work or similar and I know of no one that considers that to be a part of IT.
You're kidding right? The guys at Geek Squad do little more than that and they think they are IT... Granted they probably are.. but we have other local computer shops.. and the guy who only assembles new machines definitely thinks he's in IT.
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Resume reconstruction in process now. Never good at putting myself on paper. Have to have someone look over it first before I turn it in. <fingers crossed>
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@Dashrender said:
You're kidding right? The guys at Geek Squad do little more than that and they think they are IT... Granted they probably are.. but we have other local computer shops.. and the guy who only assembles new machines definitely thinks he's in IT.
Not sure who would consider that IT. Information Technology is using/implementing computer and telecommunication to access and store data for the use case of a business. Those jobs are no more IT than a television repair shop is.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@Dashrender said:
You're kidding right? The guys at Geek Squad do little more than that and they think they are IT... Granted they probably are.. but we have other local computer shops.. and the guy who only assembles new machines definitely thinks he's in IT.
Not sure who would consider that IT. Information Technology is using/implementing computer and telecommunication to access and store data for the use case of a business. Those jobs are no more IT than a television repair shop is.
They do.. you or I might not.. but to the untrained masses if they say I work on computers all day, the masses will assume they are part of IT.
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My strength's are "Jack of All Trades" with System Administration (Network, Server, Disaster Recovery, Workstation, Tablets, Phones) but they've pushed me toward development for many years and they said this is the year...mind you, it is Excel/VBA but that's how we roll here...
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@Dashrender said:
You're kidding right? The guys at Geek Squad do little more than that and they think they are IT... Granted they probably are.. but we have other local computer shops.. and the guy who only assembles new machines definitely thinks he's in IT.
Lots of people who aren't IT like to think of themselves that way. But GS is exactly a textbook example of bench services. It's specifically because of them that the A+ is a bench, not an IT, cert and has no place in IT at all.
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@Dashrender said:
They do.. you or I might not.. but to the untrained masses if they say I work on computers all day, the masses will assume they are part of IT.
Just because they do doesn't mean it's right. Geeksquad doesn't even use the word IT/Information Technology anywhere publicly or on their job postings. They called them Computer Agents, Computer Techs, Computer Repair Agents etc.
The local shops that I know of don't consider themselves to be IT.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
The local shops that I know of don't consider themselves to be IT.
Mostly they think of themselves as "small shop owners" no different than the person who owns and runs a main street clothing shop or whatever.