What Are You Doing Right Now
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Anyone used AmBit POS? It looks awful, but someone is recommending it.
Could be ran on IPads, Other than that I haven't heard much - It's not very popular in the Midwest that I can tell.
No public pricing or info. VERY clear that the vendor doesn't think much of the product.
I didn't look on the website, but does it say you can request a demo?
also - a lot of POS vendors dont put there price in a public setting because then their competitors will be able to potentially steal their business by saying "their systems are X amount and can do x,y,andz . we can do ours for Y amount. and ours do A,B,C as well as X,Y,Z" so not actually unheard of.
This is actually a BS reason to not list pricing publically - they don't list because it allows them to charge whatever they want to an individual customer.
It's completely possible... - however as I've seen it in the past 3.5 or so years, every customer is different based on their needs - which affects the price- POS systems are not Cookie Cutter - unless you're adding to a current chain, then it's pretty easy, but that's under the same customer. Not to mention the hardware you use, (based on what's offered) the size of the site , licensing, peripherals, subscriptions, Credit Card processing, menu changes, all differ from customer to customer.
I have no 2 customers exactly a like. So there is no "One size fits" all pricing in this industry. -
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Anyone used AmBit POS? It looks awful, but someone is recommending it.
Could be ran on IPads, Other than that I haven't heard much - It's not very popular in the Midwest that I can tell.
No public pricing or info. VERY clear that the vendor doesn't think much of the product.
I didn't look on the website, but does it say you can request a demo?
also - a lot of POS vendors dont put there price in a public setting because then their competitors will be able to potentially steal their business by saying "their systems are X amount and can do x,y,andz . we can do ours for Y amount. and ours do A,B,C as well as X,Y,Z" so not actually unheard of.
That's why you demo both.... and once you get prices from Company A and Company B, you start the haggling process yourself.
which is what a lot of people do .
It is what a lot of people do, and as we've discussed so many times in the past, people do all sorts of crazy things. Just for starters, not having publicly available pricing tells me that person/company does not value my time, and it will cost me extra time to negotiate with them.
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Anyone used AmBit POS? It looks awful, but someone is recommending it.
Could be ran on IPads, Other than that I haven't heard much - It's not very popular in the Midwest that I can tell.
No public pricing or info. VERY clear that the vendor doesn't think much of the product.
I didn't look on the website, but does it say you can request a demo?
also - a lot of POS vendors dont put there price in a public setting because then their competitors will be able to potentially steal their business by saying "their systems are X amount and can do x,y,andz . we can do ours for Y amount. and ours do A,B,C as well as X,Y,Z" so not actually unheard of.
Competitors already know the prices. It's common for shit companies to do this when they are afraid of people knowing how bad their product and prices are. It's a common way to announce your shit isn't worth looking at further.
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Anyone used AmBit POS? It looks awful, but someone is recommending it.
Could be ran on IPads, Other than that I haven't heard much - It's not very popular in the Midwest that I can tell.
No public pricing or info. VERY clear that the vendor doesn't think much of the product.
I didn't look on the website, but does it say you can request a demo?
also - a lot of POS vendors dont put there price in a public setting because then their competitors will be able to potentially steal their business by saying "their systems are X amount and can do x,y,andz . we can do ours for Y amount. and ours do A,B,C as well as X,Y,Z" so not actually unheard of.
That's why you demo both.... and once you get prices from Company A and Company B, you start the haggling process yourself.
Demos cost money. This only works if you don't care about getting quality products and don't care about your own time.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Anyone used AmBit POS? It looks awful, but someone is recommending it.
Could be ran on IPads, Other than that I haven't heard much - It's not very popular in the Midwest that I can tell.
No public pricing or info. VERY clear that the vendor doesn't think much of the product.
I didn't look on the website, but does it say you can request a demo?
also - a lot of POS vendors dont put there price in a public setting because then their competitors will be able to potentially steal their business by saying "their systems are X amount and can do x,y,andz . we can do ours for Y amount. and ours do A,B,C as well as X,Y,Z" so not actually unheard of.
This is actually a BS reason to not list pricing publically - they don't list because it allows them to charge whatever they want to an individual customer.
Yup, comes down to being able to pressure everyone. So I assume I'm getting shafted and protect myself by never speaking to them.
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Anyone used AmBit POS? It looks awful, but someone is recommending it.
Could be ran on IPads, Other than that I haven't heard much - It's not very popular in the Midwest that I can tell.
No public pricing or info. VERY clear that the vendor doesn't think much of the product.
I didn't look on the website, but does it say you can request a demo?
also - a lot of POS vendors dont put there price in a public setting because then their competitors will be able to potentially steal their business by saying "their systems are X amount and can do x,y,andz . we can do ours for Y amount. and ours do A,B,C as well as X,Y,Z" so not actually unheard of.
That's why you demo both.... and once you get prices from Company A and Company B, you start the haggling process yourself.
which is what a lot of people do .
People whose time is of no value and don't view themselves as valuable. And I'd agree.
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@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Anyone used AmBit POS? It looks awful, but someone is recommending it.
Could be ran on IPads, Other than that I haven't heard much - It's not very popular in the Midwest that I can tell.
No public pricing or info. VERY clear that the vendor doesn't think much of the product.
I didn't look on the website, but does it say you can request a demo?
also - a lot of POS vendors dont put there price in a public setting because then their competitors will be able to potentially steal their business by saying "their systems are X amount and can do x,y,andz . we can do ours for Y amount. and ours do A,B,C as well as X,Y,Z" so not actually unheard of.
That's why you demo both.... and once you get prices from Company A and Company B, you start the haggling process yourself.
which is what a lot of people do .
It is what a lot of people do, and as we've discussed so many times in the past, people do all sorts of crazy things. Just for starters, not having publicly available pricing tells me that person/company does not value my time, and it will cost me extra time to negotiate with them.
Exactly. So the value of their product is EVEN LOWER because they make the acquisition cost unnecessarily high.
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Anyone used AmBit POS? It looks awful, but someone is recommending it.
Could be ran on IPads, Other than that I haven't heard much - It's not very popular in the Midwest that I can tell.
No public pricing or info. VERY clear that the vendor doesn't think much of the product.
I didn't look on the website, but does it say you can request a demo?
also - a lot of POS vendors dont put there price in a public setting because then their competitors will be able to potentially steal their business by saying "their systems are X amount and can do x,y,andz . we can do ours for Y amount. and ours do A,B,C as well as X,Y,Z" so not actually unheard of.
This is actually a BS reason to not list pricing publically - they don't list because it allows them to charge whatever they want to an individual customer.
It's completely possible... - however as I've seen it in the past 3.5 or so years, every customer is different based on their needs - which affects the price- POS systems are not Cookie Cutter - unless you're adding to a current chain, then it's pretty easy, but that's under the same customer. Not to mention the hardware you use, (based on what's offered) the size of the site , licensing, peripherals, subscriptions, Credit Card processing, menu changes, all differ from customer to customer.
I have no 2 customers exactly a like. So there is no "One size fits" all pricing in this industry.Sure, but you can list those pieces. As someone who makes this kind of software for other industries, there's no validity to that making prices not public. That's why pricing isn't simple.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Anyone used AmBit POS? It looks awful, but someone is recommending it.
Could be ran on IPads, Other than that I haven't heard much - It's not very popular in the Midwest that I can tell.
No public pricing or info. VERY clear that the vendor doesn't think much of the product.
I didn't look on the website, but does it say you can request a demo?
also - a lot of POS vendors dont put there price in a public setting because then their competitors will be able to potentially steal their business by saying "their systems are X amount and can do x,y,andz . we can do ours for Y amount. and ours do A,B,C as well as X,Y,Z" so not actually unheard of.
Competitors already know the prices. It's common for shit companies to do this when they are afraid of people knowing how bad their product and prices are. It's a common way to announce your shit isn't worth looking at further.
I have a question for you then Scott - Where can I find the public pricing for the services provided from ntg?
I just looked on the webpage and cant find anything anywhere.. except a contact us. .
Should I save myself from talking with NTG for help with my business because there is no public pricing on services rendered?
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Anyone used AmBit POS? It looks awful, but someone is recommending it.
Could be ran on IPads, Other than that I haven't heard much - It's not very popular in the Midwest that I can tell.
No public pricing or info. VERY clear that the vendor doesn't think much of the product.
I didn't look on the website, but does it say you can request a demo?
also - a lot of POS vendors dont put there price in a public setting because then their competitors will be able to potentially steal their business by saying "their systems are X amount and can do x,y,andz . we can do ours for Y amount. and ours do A,B,C as well as X,Y,Z" so not actually unheard of.
That's why you demo both.... and once you get prices from Company A and Company B, you start the haggling process yourself.
which is what a lot of people do .
People whose time is of no value and don't view themselves as valuable. And I'd agree.
Or people who want to make the right decision for the investment in their business.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Anyone used AmBit POS? It looks awful, but someone is recommending it.
Could be ran on IPads, Other than that I haven't heard much - It's not very popular in the Midwest that I can tell.
No public pricing or info. VERY clear that the vendor doesn't think much of the product.
I didn't look on the website, but does it say you can request a demo?
also - a lot of POS vendors dont put there price in a public setting because then their competitors will be able to potentially steal their business by saying "their systems are X amount and can do x,y,andz . we can do ours for Y amount. and ours do A,B,C as well as X,Y,Z" so not actually unheard of.
This is actually a BS reason to not list pricing publically - they don't list because it allows them to charge whatever they want to an individual customer.
It's completely possible... - however as I've seen it in the past 3.5 or so years, every customer is different based on their needs - which affects the price- POS systems are not Cookie Cutter - unless you're adding to a current chain, then it's pretty easy, but that's under the same customer. Not to mention the hardware you use, (based on what's offered) the size of the site , licensing, peripherals, subscriptions, Credit Card processing, menu changes, all differ from customer to customer.
I have no 2 customers exactly a like. So there is no "One size fits" all pricing in this industry.Sure, but you can list those pieces. As someone who makes this kind of software for other industries, there's no validity to that making prices not public. That's why pricing isn't simple.
Now I'm not saying there is truth to this, and I'm no sales person for my company - but I'm just saying I haven't seen a single POS vendor/Company that has pricing on their webpage - ever, unless they're a scam company giving you "free" stuff and charging you behind your back, or click bait to rope you into a demo then drop massive prices on you.
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Anyone used AmBit POS? It looks awful, but someone is recommending it.
Could be ran on IPads, Other than that I haven't heard much - It's not very popular in the Midwest that I can tell.
No public pricing or info. VERY clear that the vendor doesn't think much of the product.
I didn't look on the website, but does it say you can request a demo?
also - a lot of POS vendors dont put there price in a public setting because then their competitors will be able to potentially steal their business by saying "their systems are X amount and can do x,y,andz . we can do ours for Y amount. and ours do A,B,C as well as X,Y,Z" so not actually unheard of.
This is actually a BS reason to not list pricing publically - they don't list because it allows them to charge whatever they want to an individual customer.
It's completely possible... - however as I've seen it in the past 3.5 or so years, every customer is different based on their needs - which affects the price- POS systems are not Cookie Cutter - unless you're adding to a current chain, then it's pretty easy, but that's under the same customer. Not to mention the hardware you use, (based on what's offered) the size of the site , licensing, peripherals, subscriptions, Credit Card processing, menu changes, all differ from customer to customer.
I have no 2 customers exactly a like. So there is no "One size fits" all pricing in this industry.Sure, but you can list those pieces. As someone who makes this kind of software for other industries, there's no validity to that making prices not public. That's why pricing isn't simple.
Now I'm not saying there is truth to this, and I'm no sales person for my company - but I'm just saying I haven't seen a single POS vendor/Company that has pricing on their webpage - ever, unless they're a scam company giving you "free" stuff and charging you behind your back, or click bait to rope you into a demo then drop massive prices on you.
Square, for example.
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Intuit has public pricing, too.
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@mr-jones said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Finished upgrading one of my home computers to Windows 11.
How is it? Windows has started prompting me on my home computer to turn on TPM 2.0 or upgrade my mobo. I saw a few videos on it months ago, wondering if it's a "I'll wait until they get the bugs out" or a "oh I need this now" kinda situation.
Not to bad so far.
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@mr-jones said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Finished upgrading one of my home computers to Windows 11.
How is it? Windows has started prompting me on my home computer to turn on TPM 2.0 or upgrade my mobo. I saw a few videos on it months ago, wondering if it's a "I'll wait until they get the bugs out" or a "oh I need this now" kinda situation.
My primary desktop runs Fedora but have an extra laptop to upgrade to 11. You don’t have upgrade if you don’t want to.
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Found out that Square POS gives you more options if you sign up in the US vs somewhere else. If we lie about our country, more functionality appears!
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Found out that Square POS gives you more options if you sign up in the US vs somewhere else. If we lie about our country, more functionality appears!
So, would you then pay US tax over local tax (if any)? And (you likely have already looked) go against some (insert) international law?
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@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Found out that Square POS gives you more options if you sign up in the US vs somewhere else. If we lie about our country, more functionality appears!
So, would you then pay US tax over local tax (if any)? And (you likely have already looked) go against some (insert) international law?
You don't pay US taxes just because you sign up for a service using a US address. Tax doesn't take that into account.
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Hooking up a DVR and new security system here today.
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Drinking coffee, having a smoke, and listening to this on vinyl:
Excellent compilation of late 60s/early 70s psychedelic rock. All unknown bands, B-sides, etc.
