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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      We just recently brought in fiber 100/100 for about $20 a month more.

      the upload will be loved by our medical records department, uploading into our EHR.

      We moved from Coax 100/20.

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        Dragon3303 @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in Switch to fiber or stay with coax?:

        We just recently brought in fiber 100/100 for about $20 a month more.

        the upload will be loved by our medical records department, uploading into our EHR.

        We moved from Coax 100/20.

        If we could get 100/100 for $20 a month more I would do that without hesitation. 50/50 for us on a 3 year term looks to be about $160 per month more than what we currently pay for our 200/12 coax connection.

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          krzykat @Dragon3303
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          @Dragon3303
          It all boils down to competition. If there's competition in the area, the prices will become more and more affordable, but when they have little to no competition - they really jack those rates up.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @Dragon3303
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            @Dragon3303 said in Switch to fiber or stay with coax?:

            @Dashrender said in Switch to fiber or stay with coax?:

            We just recently brought in fiber 100/100 for about $20 a month more.

            the upload will be loved by our medical records department, uploading into our EHR.

            We moved from Coax 100/20.

            If we could get 100/100 for $20 a month more I would do that without hesitation. 50/50 for us on a 3 year term looks to be about $160 per month more than what we currently pay for our 200/12 coax connection.

            I guess it really depends on your needs... going from 200 to 30 is likely to be painful, to you if no one else.

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              1337 @Dragon3303
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              @Dragon3303 said in Switch to fiber or stay with coax?:

              but I wanted to see if others were trading speed for reliability and if it was worth it for them.

              I wouldn't want to pay anything for enterprise SLA but I'd pay for fiber. But I think 100/100 is the sweet spot and 30/30 is too low.

              Problem with fiber is when they dig into it. Then enterprise SLA wont help a bit. Otherwise it's simple and reliable.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @1337
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                @Pete-S said in Switch to fiber or stay with coax?:

                @Dragon3303 said in Switch to fiber or stay with coax?:

                but I wanted to see if others were trading speed for reliability and if it was worth it for them.

                I wouldn't want to pay anything for enterprise SLA but I'd pay for fiber. But I think 100/100 is the sweet spot and 30/30 is too low.

                Problem with fiber is when they dig into it. Then enterprise SLA wont help a bit. Otherwise it's simple and reliable.

                The problem with any connection is having it severed.
                Fiber or coax or phonelines.

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                  JaredBusch @krzykat
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                  @krzykat said in Switch to fiber or stay with coax?:

                  @Dragon3303
                  It all boils down to competition. If there's competition in the area, the prices will become more and more affordable, but when they have little to no competition - they really jack those rates up.

                  Not just competition.

                  AT&T will not offer their "shared fiber" service on a build out scenario. Even if there is no build out cost to you (just the contract).

                  But after the fiber is down and the contract is up, they will. That is a cheaper service. Not dedicated bandwidth. It is shared, oversold like normal "business" services. But still fiber.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dragon3303
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                    @Dragon3303 said in Switch to fiber or stay with coax?:

                    @JaredBusch said in Switch to fiber or stay with coax?:

                    It will not make any real difference since you said you are not having any issues now at 12mbps up.

                    But 30 mbps down is a huge change from 200 mbps down.

                    A simple example: 5GB Windows 10 ISO file would take
                    30mbps = 24 minutes
                    200mbps = 4 minutes.

                    That's my biggest concern. We used to be mostly all download as we would only have a few employees at a time out and traveling and everyone else was in the office. Now there's a some who work remote either 1/2 time or full time, but still a majority in the office.

                    Then moving from "working" to "more expensive and might not work anymore" feels like a bad move.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @1337
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                      @Pete-S said in Switch to fiber or stay with coax?:

                      @Dragon3303 said in Switch to fiber or stay with coax?:

                      but I wanted to see if others were trading speed for reliability and if it was worth it for them.

                      I wouldn't want to pay anything for enterprise SLA but I'd pay for fiber. But I think 100/100 is the sweet spot and 30/30 is too low.

                      Problem with fiber is when they dig into it. Then enterprise SLA wont help a bit. Otherwise it's simple and reliable.

                      Exactly. In fact, SLA typically protects the ISP, not the customer. It sets a maximum damange number lower than you'd be able to get otherwise. I've seen businesses basically destroyed because the SLA functions as a crippling contractual agreement.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @Dragon3303
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                        @Dragon3303 said in Switch to fiber or stay with coax?:

                        We haven't had any big issues with service, speed, etc. to speak of. Potentially looking at switching to a 30x30

                        My takeaway from this is that you'd be paying more to go slower. If you're not having any real issues, why pay more to go slower?

                        @Dragon3303 said in Switch to fiber or stay with coax?:

                        I'm sure some of our remote folks may see some better file transfer speeds but I'm not sure how much of a difference that will make overall going from 12 mb to 30 mb.

                        For some folks, it will be noticeable, and others, not so much. It will largely depend on what kind of internet connection your remote users have outside of the office.

                        Have you considered talking to your current ISP to see if they can provide more upload speed?

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