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@Kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Pete-S said in Non-IT News Thread:
More than half of elderly Covid-19 victims in Sweden have died in care homes.
Sweden, with 10m inhabitants, has kept more of society open than is the case in most of Europe.
I had wondered how Sweden's approach to handling Covid-19 was working since they took a different approach compared to the rest of the world. Their death rate (based on the numbers the BBC reports in that article) is about 0.04%.
Is that the rate of death across society, or of those infected?
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Pete-S said in Non-IT News Thread:
More than half of elderly Covid-19 victims in Sweden have died in care homes.
Sweden, with 10m inhabitants, has kept more of society open than is the case in most of Europe.
I had wondered how Sweden's approach to handling Covid-19 was working since they took a different approach compared to the rest of the world. Their death rate (based on the numbers the BBC reports in that article) is about 0.04%.
Is that the rate of death across society, or of those infected?
Across society - less than 4,000 out of a population of 10,000,000. I don't know what their infection rates are. However, there were dire predictions that their infection and death rates were going to spiral out of control since they weren't instituting the lockdown measures that other countries were.
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@Kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Pete-S said in Non-IT News Thread:
More than half of elderly Covid-19 victims in Sweden have died in care homes.
Sweden, with 10m inhabitants, has kept more of society open than is the case in most of Europe.
I had wondered how Sweden's approach to handling Covid-19 was working since they took a different approach compared to the rest of the world. Their death rate (based on the numbers the BBC reports in that article) is about 0.04%.
Is that the rate of death across society, or of those infected?
Across society - less than 4,000 out of a population of 10,000,000. I don't know what their infection rates are. However, there were dire predictions that their infection and death rates were going to spiral out of control since they weren't instituting the lockdown measures that other countries were.
Right, for sure. Those are great numbers.
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@Kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Pete-S said in Non-IT News Thread:
More than half of elderly Covid-19 victims in Sweden have died in care homes.
Sweden, with 10m inhabitants, has kept more of society open than is the case in most of Europe.
I had wondered how Sweden's approach to handling Covid-19 was working since they took a different approach compared to the rest of the world. Their death rate (based on the numbers the BBC reports in that article) is about 0.04%.
Most of the deaths were nursing home deaths due to bad handling in just that single aspect. It's no way reflective of "how the whole thing was handled".
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Otherwise, the numbers would be insane compared to everywhere else in the world all things considered , but that's not the case when you account for the societal differences.
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@Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Pete-S said in Non-IT News Thread:
More than half of elderly Covid-19 victims in Sweden have died in care homes.
Sweden, with 10m inhabitants, has kept more of society open than is the case in most of Europe.
I had wondered how Sweden's approach to handling Covid-19 was working since they took a different approach compared to the rest of the world. Their death rate (based on the numbers the BBC reports in that article) is about 0.04%.
Most of the deaths were nursing home deaths due to bad handling in just that single aspect. It's no way reflective of "how the whole thing was handled".
I'm not criticizing any aspect of the deaths or how they've handled anything. I don't know enough. I've been more curious how their approach to handling things was going to work compared to the rest of the world's "Let's shut everything down" plan. Their infection rate appears to be rather low based on what is listed here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries.
~30,000 cases out of 10,000,000 people is pretty low based on what experts were telling us would happen.
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@Kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Pete-S said in Non-IT News Thread:
More than half of elderly Covid-19 victims in Sweden have died in care homes.
Sweden, with 10m inhabitants, has kept more of society open than is the case in most of Europe.
I had wondered how Sweden's approach to handling Covid-19 was working since they took a different approach compared to the rest of the world. Their death rate (based on the numbers the BBC reports in that article) is about 0.04%.
Most of the deaths were nursing home deaths due to bad handling in just that single aspect. It's no way reflective of "how the whole thing was handled".
I'm not criticizing any aspect of the deaths or how they've handled anything. I don't know enough. I've been more curious how their approach to handling things was going to work compared to the rest of the world's "Let's shut everything down" plan. Their infection rate appears to be rather low based on what is listed here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries.
~30,000 cases out of 10,000,000 people is pretty low based on what experts were telling us would happen.
What's really needed is a number of completed tests to get a more accurate picture. You can't report on cases if you don't test, and misattributing deaths is not only easy, but happening on purpose.
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@Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Pete-S said in Non-IT News Thread:
More than half of elderly Covid-19 victims in Sweden have died in care homes.
Sweden, with 10m inhabitants, has kept more of society open than is the case in most of Europe.
I had wondered how Sweden's approach to handling Covid-19 was working since they took a different approach compared to the rest of the world. Their death rate (based on the numbers the BBC reports in that article) is about 0.04%.
Most of the deaths were nursing home deaths due to bad handling in just that single aspect. It's no way reflective of "how the whole thing was handled".
I'm not criticizing any aspect of the deaths or how they've handled anything. I don't know enough. I've been more curious how their approach to handling things was going to work compared to the rest of the world's "Let's shut everything down" plan. Their infection rate appears to be rather low based on what is listed here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries.
~30,000 cases out of 10,000,000 people is pretty low based on what experts were telling us would happen.
What's really needed is a number of completed tests to get a more accurate picture. You can't report on cases if you don't test, and misattributing deaths is not only easy, but happening on purpose.
I'm guessing that with Sweden's medical system that they probably have better data than the US. Could be wrong on that one. Maybe @Obsolesce would have a better perspective?
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@Kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Grey said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Pete-S said in Non-IT News Thread:
More than half of elderly Covid-19 victims in Sweden have died in care homes.
Sweden, with 10m inhabitants, has kept more of society open than is the case in most of Europe.
I had wondered how Sweden's approach to handling Covid-19 was working since they took a different approach compared to the rest of the world. Their death rate (based on the numbers the BBC reports in that article) is about 0.04%.
Most of the deaths were nursing home deaths due to bad handling in just that single aspect. It's no way reflective of "how the whole thing was handled".
I'm not criticizing any aspect of the deaths or how they've handled anything. I don't know enough. I've been more curious how their approach to handling things was going to work compared to the rest of the world's "Let's shut everything down" plan. Their infection rate appears to be rather low based on what is listed here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries.
~30,000 cases out of 10,000,000 people is pretty low based on what experts were telling us would happen.
What's really needed is a number of completed tests to get a more accurate picture. You can't report on cases if you don't test, and misattributing deaths is not only easy, but happening on purpose.
I'm guessing that with Sweden's medical system that they probably have better data than the US. Could be wrong on that one. Maybe @Obsolesce would have a better perspective?
You may find this very informative
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Coronavirus: Virus outbreaks push Germany to clean up abattoirs
Germany has agreed a proposal to ban the use of temporary workers at slaughterhouses following a spate of coronavirus infections.
Hundreds of people working at abattoirs across Germany and France have tested positive for Covid-19 in recent weeks. Many workers have arrived from Romania on flights chartered by farmers. Health experts are looking at possible reasons for the outbreaks, including overcrowded accommodation and cold conditions at processing facilities. On Wednesday, German Chancellor Angela Merkel's cabinet agreed a draft proposal preventing subcontractors - largely migrant workers - from processing meat at plants from January 2021.Any violation of the new rules by abattoir owners could result in a fine of up to €30,000 (£26,800; $32,900), the proposal states. -
Coronavirus: French brothers strike gold under lockdown
It's fair to say that life under lockdown can be boring at times.
Most parents will have come to appreciate the increasingly tricky task of keeping the kids entertained. But as the weather warms up, plenty of children will be looking to the garden for new ways to pass the time. And for two French brothers, that resulted in a valuable discovery. Their parents decided to leave Paris when France imposed a lockdown and move to a family home in the town of Vendôme, south-west of the capital. The boys, both aged about 10, asked to build a makeshift hut in the garden using branches, leaves and sheets. -
40,000 health care workers will start taking hydroxychloroquine as a preventative measure.
Chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine or a placebo will be given to more than 40,000 healthcare workers from Europe, Africa, Asia and South America.
All the participants are staff who are in contact with Covid-19 patients.
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@Pete-S said in Non-IT News Thread:
40,000 health care workers will start taking hydroxychloroquine as a preventative measure.
Chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine or a placebo will be given to more than 40,000 healthcare workers from Europe, Africa, Asia and South America.
All the participants are staff who are in contact with Covid-19 patients.
That's not going to go well.
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The Denny's back home didnt make it.
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NBA says it is talking with Disney about resuming season
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Coronavirus: Denmark opens borders to divided lovers
Denmark has opened its borders to couples who were separated from their partners by the coronavirus lockdown.
As of Monday, cross-border couples who reside in the Nordic countries or Germany can now visit Denmark. Rules currently require people to prove their relationship with photos, text messages and emails. But the justice minister has announced these regulations will be relaxed in the coming days, so all that is needed is a letter signed by both parties. "If you say you are a boyfriend and sign [the letter], we will assume it [is true]," Justice minister Nick Hækkerup told broadcaster TV2. -
JK Rowling unveils The Ickabog, her first non-Harry Potter children's book
JK Rowling has surprised fans with the announcement of a brand new children's book, which she is publishing in daily instalments on her website for free.
The Ickabog is her first children's story not to be linked to Harry Potter. She wrote it over a decade ago for her own children and has now dusted it off. It's for "children on lockdown, or even those back at school during these strange, unsettling times", she said. She had previously referred to it only as an unnamed "political fairytale". Chapters of The Ickabog are being published daily until 10 July on The Ickabog website. The first two chapters, which went online on Tuesday, introduced King Fred the Fearless, ruler of Cornucopia, and five-year-old Bert Beamish.
