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    • gjacobseG
      gjacobse @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said:

      Test and turn up with AT&T for a 100mbps fiber line.

      The customer is only paying for 5mbps though. Will have to try and restrict things in the router.

      Why? Doesn't sound like much fun. I'd like to have a 100MB line at home... TWC tells me I have a 6MB line now...

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      • Minion QueenM
        Minion Queen Banned
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        Just got done talking to my MS Account Manager. Firming up last bits of information before I speak on the MS Partner Call in February. Might be going to the MS Live Event in CT in March to speak as well. Why oh why couldn't have been somewhere warm?

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @gjacobse
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          @JaredBusch said:

          The customer is only paying for 5mbps though. Will have to try and restrict things in the router.

          @g.jacobse said:

          Why? Doesn't sound like much fun. I'd like to have a 100MB line at home... TWC tells me I have a 6MB line now...

          Because you pay if you use more than you pay for. 5mbps in this case.

          I have another client with the same 100mbps fiber, but they are only paying for 30. so to avoid unexpected bills, I restricted it in their router.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said:

            @JaredBusch said:

            The customer is only paying for 5mbps though. Will have to try and restrict things in the router.

            @g.jacobse said:

            Why? Doesn't sound like much fun. I'd like to have a 100MB line at home... TWC tells me I have a 6MB line now...

            Because you pay if you use more than you pay for. 5mbps in this case.

            I have another client with the same 100mbps fiber, but they are only paying for 30. so to avoid unexpected bills, I restricted it in their router.

            Interesting - looks like just another way for a telco to screw a customer - we'll give you this huge pipe, but make you pay a little price, and if you don't put the screws to yourself, without realizing it you'll get a huge bill.

            It's kinda like how you can dial a long distance number that belongs to the bahamas and not even realize that you're dialing outside the USA and get hit with a bill that's $100's of dollars a min - just seems like their system should protect you from this, you shouldn't have to do your own protection scheme.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              Interesting - looks like just another way for a telco to screw a customer - we'll give you this huge pipe, but make you pay a little price, and if you don't put the screws to yourself, without realizing it you'll get a huge bill.

              It is stated clearly up front. It is also explained and the billing scheme is not horribly unforgiving. If you burst to 100mbps for a couple minutes, you will only be billed the overage for those few minutes. But people are trained to think of network services as fixed costs, so i simply cap it so that it is.

              @Dashrender said:

              It's kinda like how you can dial a long distance number that belongs to the bahamas and not even realize that you're dialing outside the USA and get hit with a bill that's $100's of dollars a min - just seems like their system should protect you from this, you shouldn't have to do your own protection scheme.

              That is a business ethics issue (the company doing it). That is not the utilities problem, technically.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said:

                It is stated clearly up front. It is also explained and the billing scheme is not horribly unforgiving. If you burst to 100mbps for a couple minutes, you will only be billed the overage for those few minutes. But people are trained to think of network services as fixed costs, so i simply cap it so that it is.

                Exactly, people are trained to think of network services as a fixed cost. This completely turns that on it's ear.

                I guess the good thing is you're helping your customer keep from getting into trouble, it just feels wrong. I'm a old cat I guess.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  Exactly, people are trained to think of network services as a fixed cost. This completely turns that on it's ear.

                  Network costs have never been fixed on the back end though. It is only to the end user that is has been sold that way.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    Exactly, people are trained to think of network services as a fixed cost. This completely turns that on it's ear.

                    Network costs have never been fixed on the back end though. It is only to the end user that is has been sold that way.

                    Meaning the customer as always gotten screwed?

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                    • JoyJ
                      Joy
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                      Good morning to all 🙂

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                      • Minion QueenM
                        Minion Queen Banned
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                        So half our power went out. The power coming in (220 only one leg of it is working). So some rooms only lights work. Others only plugs do. The office is the only room in the house that everything works in.

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                        • MattSpellerM
                          MattSpeller @Minion Queen
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                          @Minion-Queen Watch your UPS's, if they're hardwired some will use all 3 phases of AC

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                          • Minion QueenM
                            Minion Queen Banned
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                            Nothing hardwired. But everything has been shut off so we are good for now. Again the office is good 🙂

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                            • JoyJ
                              Joy @Minion Queen
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                              @Minion-Queen said:

                              Nothing hardwired. But everything has been shut off so we are good for now. Again the office is good 🙂

                              That's good to hear.. I'm sure Minion-Queen is happy again 🙂

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Was in my dad's closet and found the Microsoft Windows 2003 Launch Event Attendee's Portfolio. This takes you back to another era.

                                I think that @Danielle-Ralston attended this one with me a dozen years ago.

                                image.jpg

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  It is stated clearly up front. It is also explained and the billing scheme is not horribly unforgiving. If you burst to 100mbps for a couple minutes, you will only be billed the overage for those few minutes. But people are trained to think of network services as fixed costs, so i simply cap it so that it is.

                                  Exactly, people are trained to think of network services as a fixed cost. This completely turns that on it's ear.

                                  I guess the good thing is you're helping your customer keep from getting into trouble, it just feels wrong. I'm a old cat I guess.

                                  Nothing wrong with it. They agree to the model and choose to leverage it or limit themselves. That it is different from a typical consumer line is irrelevant.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Here is the inside. Remember when these events came with loads of discs! How archaic. These events were so much fun.

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                                    • Minion QueenM
                                      Minion Queen Banned
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                                      @scottalanmiller These were a lot of fun and yes I was with you. I miss those types of events.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Exactly, people are trained to think of network services as a fixed cost. This completely turns that on it's ear.

                                        Network costs have never been fixed on the back end though. It is only to the end user that is has been sold that way.

                                        Meaning the customer as always gotten screwed?

                                        That's a mixed message. This really isn't fair to network providers. In one case we are saying that the company is evil and the customer is screwed for the ISP not providing a fixed cost. Then in the next breath saying that they are evil and screwing the customer for having done what was wanted in the previous post.

                                        In both cases, the ISP and customers agree to terms. No one is getting screwed. One system might be generally better than the other, but we can't keep claiming that any action of an ISP is evil no matter what they do.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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                                          @Minion-Queen said:

                                          @scottalanmiller These were a lot of fun and yes I was with you. I miss those types of events.

                                          It is so sad that they don't do those anymore . But that was a different era. Hard to believe that those days are already past. So many young IT pros will never know what it was like attending that stuff all of the time. There was so much great training at those things.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            It's cold and the snow is coming down here up on the farm. We are all hanging out at my dad's house right now.

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