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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      We used a texting service with a SIP trunk recently for a business texting line. The service was expensive to make SMS available via a web console. But because the customers could not identify to whom they were speaking, and because we could rarely identify the customers, and because we could not identify who on our side was speaking to customers, and because customer responses just went blindly to "the company" so no one was sure what they were responding to or about, we had to stop it as it was crippling our ability to support anyone that texted us. It had its handy moments, but basically once you scaled past a team of two or three people it rapidly become impossible to use.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Why Do People Still Text:

        Texting also poses problems for anyone that has a personal assistant or needs to hand work to a team. If you have a secretary, email and other modern communications generally have mechanisms where they can work with your email, respond on your behalf, pre-filter for you. To do this with normal texting mechanism, you would need to have your secretary have your phone rather than getting your messages on his computer, phone, or whatever.

        For a lot of professionals, that's a big deal. They need someone to handle their messaging for them. Sure, you can simply give out someone else's number as your own and have texts go only to someone else, but that's not a good solution either for almost anyone. Button line, the normal, expected options that you use for business communications generally break when you use texting.

        First things first - I Don't consider SMS a business solution, and I'm guessing many people don't either.. though, sadly some do, nothing I can do about those people.

        Second - if you buy into the apple ecosystem, you can get SMS messages from a single number on multiple idevices, it's not great, but it would be a solution.

        back to your point - I definitely agree that email is the solution for a real business solution in this case. No chat app has solutions for this specific problem that I'm aware of either... Perhaps there is one that allows you to forward/BCC a second party to a stream for a given time period, but that will definitely not be as flexible as email is.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in Why Do People Still Text:

          Second - if you buy into the apple ecosystem, you can get SMS messages from a single number on multiple idevices, it's not great, but it would be a solution.

          Google does this too, but it's extremely anemic and requires that the receiving device still be active. If the device turns off, loses signal, or gets damaged.... it appears that you still have service, but it stops working and you don't know that people can't reach you.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in Why Do People Still Text:

            First things first - I consider SMS a business solution, and I'm guessing many people don't either.. though, sadly some do, nothing I can do about those people.

            Business and personal are not really dramatically different use cases. Personal is more "forgiving" of bad design, but is still affected by it. If it's not a good business solution, it's not a good personal solution. And that you need two solutions is itself a problem (business people are still people.)

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            • IRJI
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              https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2019/12/01/text-message-leak-millions-americans-might-be-at-risk/4346711002/

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                @IRJ said in Why Do People Still Text:

                https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2019/12/01/text-message-leak-millions-americans-might-be-at-risk/4346711002/

                In that case, it was a third party system that just happened to use SMS somewhere. It's the database that was the exposure, not the mechanism.

                Although I've worked places where scorpions were deployed so that all texts were recorded without permission, including those from other companies. Anyone working at GE headquarters, for example, had their phones compromised over the wireless.

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                  Do I expect an 8 - 24 hour response

                  email

                  Do I expect a 5 min - 2hr response

                  text

                  Do I need to talk to someone this instant

                  call

                  Do I want to see if casual acquaintances want drinks

                  Social media message

                  I feel like the platforms are used to communicate unspoken expectations.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @jim9500
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                    @jim9500 said in Why Do People Still Text:

                    Do I expect a 5 min - 1mo response

                    text

                    I don't agree here. Not isolated, anyway. It's "do I expect a quick response if I get a response, but am okay with no response at all or waiting weeks as it can't be critical if I chose those channel.*"

                    I say this as I regularly see this as the "channel that gets ignored" unless communications is already coordinated through a more robust channel, and easily a quarter of people who respond this way to me take weeks or months to get back (for real) because it's not taken as a serious methodology.

                    I also find this to be the channel that people silence because it's seen as trivial communications.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @jim9500
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                      @jim9500 said in Why Do People Still Text:

                      I feel like the platforms are used to communicate unspoken expectations.

                      I agree....

                      Text... because someone in the communications channel is confused and pushing a poor method because they never consider how to communicate well.

                      Email... when something is important enough to communicate well.

                      Call.... when it's an all out emergency that doesn't require communicating any amount of information or the caller is just rude and inconsiderate.

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                      • jmooreJ
                        jmoore @jim9500
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                        @jim9500 this is how i see it as well and and is also how others behave in regard to communications with me.

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                        • jmooreJ
                          jmoore
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                          Probably just depends on how others you usually communicate with use that certain technology in the end.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                            @jmoore said in Why Do People Still Text:

                            @jim9500 this is how i see it as well and and is also how others behave in regard to communications with me.

                            Pretty much everyone I talk to says that's how they see those channels, but it is almost never how they behave when using them.

                            It's also a bit weird, since typically email seems to be reliably faster than texting. People don't tend to look too closely, but I pay a lot of attention and email seems to regularly be equal or faster than texting. It's extremely rare that I see an email delay over say two minutes. But not unheard of for texting delays of an hour or two.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                              @jmoore said in Why Do People Still Text:

                              Probably just depends on how others you usually communicate with use that certain technology in the end.

                              That's the key thing, with communications, you are often "stuck" with the choices of the least capable, least thinking party in a scenario. If you can convince grandparents to only talk on Facebook, suddenly everyone has to have Facebook because that's what your grandparents use and you can't change them no matter how good or bad it is.

                              This is how texting seems to have taken hold. There was a huge marketing push to get certain groups to use it and force charges on people who didn't want it and couldn't turn it off, so those people were forced to pay for it, and they've continued to encourage it as a lock in mechanism.

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                                  black3dynamite @Emad R
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                                  @Emad-R said in Why Do People Still Text:

                                  @scottalanmiller

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @jim9500
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                                    @jim9500 said in Why Do People Still Text:

                                    Do I expect an 8 - 24 hour response

                                    email

                                    Do I expect a 5 min - 2hr response

                                    text

                                    Do I need to talk to someone this instant

                                    call

                                    Do I want to see if casual acquaintances want drinks

                                    Social media message

                                    I feel like the platforms are used to communicate unspoken expectations.

                                    This is why I like Slack. It fits for them all plus more in the enterprise. Everyone has it, so you don't need to worry about that part of it.

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                                      • jmooreJ
                                        jmoore @Obsolesce
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                                        @Obsolesce Yeah I love Slack for that reason too. Slack is always a better experience for all involved from my viewpoint.

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                                        • jmooreJ
                                          jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Why Do People Still Text:

                                          That's the key thing, with communications, you are often "stuck" with the choices of the least capable, least thinking party in a scenario.

                                          Yeah I'm sure that's a factor as well. For example, anyone that i text will get back to me in less than an hour on a regular basis. Most of the time its within 5 min.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                            @Obsolesce said in Why Do People Still Text:

                                            This is why I like Slack. It fits for them all plus more in the enterprise. Everyone has it, so you don't need to worry about that part of it.

                                            I don't actually know many people with Slack. Almost none, in fact. As a company, we have only one person with access to it for clients and they relay messages for the rest when needed. So even as an IT company, it comes up rarely... and now that Teams has passed it (in usage, not quality) it seems to be fading.

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