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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @NashBrydges
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      @NashBrydges said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

      Hmmm...maybe my expectations were too high. I transferred a 1GB test file from the remote PC to my Nextcloud install on Vultr and got around 200Mbps as well.

      Assuming you used an SSL cert, then you still have the VPN overhead in that situation. but yeah, likely you are reaching the limit of the connection via the internet.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @NashBrydges
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        @NashBrydges said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

        Hmmm...maybe my expectations were too high. I transferred a 1GB test file from the remote PC to my Nextcloud install on Vultr and got around 200Mbps as well.

        Nextcloud by default would use SSL, so a VPN connection for all intents and purposes, so a good comparison of another VPN situation.

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre
          last edited by

          Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dafyre
            last edited by

            @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

            Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

            that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

              @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

              Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

              that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

              True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @dafyre
                last edited by

                @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                That is not the question. No one cares about that.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                  @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                  @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                  @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                  Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                  that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                  True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                  That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                  Plus I thought he already confirmed he's getting what he's paying for?

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                    @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                    @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                    @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                    Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                    that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                    True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                    That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                    @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                    @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                    @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                    @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                    @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                    Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                    that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                    True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                    That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                    Plus I thought he already confirmed he's getting what he's paying for?

                    I see no mention of how this was verified above, thus the reason I recommended SpeedTest.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @dafyre
                      last edited by

                      @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                      @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                      @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                      @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                      @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                      Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                      that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                      True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                      That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                      @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                      @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                      @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                      @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                      @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                      Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                      that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                      True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                      That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                      Plus I thought he already confirmed he's getting what he's paying for?

                      I see no mention of how this was verified above, thus the reason I recommended SpeedTest.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                        @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                        @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                        @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                        Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                        that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                        True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                        That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                        So if you're paying for 500 megs and you get 3, you don't care about that?

                        That should be one of the early questions asked when researching file transfer speeds -- whether a VPN is involved or not.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                          that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                          True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                          That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                          @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                          that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                          True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                          That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                          Plus I thought he already confirmed he's getting what he's paying for?

                          I see no mention of how this was verified above, thus the reason I recommended SpeedTest.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @dafyre
                            last edited by

                            @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                            it's not relevant. it was tested and known that the line speed is valid.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              I can't speak for any other ISP, but Cox only guarantees the speed to their own services. So you buy 500 mbit/s, they only care if you get that to their own internal test site.

                              Granted, in most cases you should get something pretty damned close to one of the generic testing sites as well - which we assume the OP did when he said he tested multiple times.

                              With that out of the way - the OP still needs to test a non encrypted transfer via the internet between these two sites to see what that transfer speed is like. This could be done by hosting a HTTP server at either side and pulling pushing a largish file.... then compare those speeds to the VPN speeds...

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                I can't speak for any other ISP, but Cox only guarantees the speed to their own services. So you buy 500 mbit/s, they only care if you get that to their own internal test site.

                                This is the given nature of the Internet. It is impossible to get around it.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                  Granted, in most cases you should get something pretty damned close to one of the generic testing sites as well - which we assume the OP did when he said he tested multiple time

                                  No, you should not. That's a crazy conclusion. It's exactly the opposite... you can almost guaranteed not expect anything close to that speed.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                    last edited by

                                    @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                    So if you're paying for 500 megs and you get 3, you don't care about that?

                                    We know he is getting 500, but that has nothing to do with the issue he has.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                      last edited by

                                      @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                      @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                      Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                                      that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                                      True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                                      Even if they are giving him half of what he is paying for, that's the not the relevant issue.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                        @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                        Granted, in most cases you should get something pretty damned close to one of the generic testing sites as well - which we assume the OP did when he said he tested multiple time

                                        No, you should not. That's a crazy conclusion. It's exactly the opposite... you can almost guaranteed not expect anything close to that speed.

                                        huh - I frequently get within 5% of the speed - and more often than not, I get more speed than I paid for.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                          @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                          Granted, in most cases you should get something pretty damned close to one of the generic testing sites as well - which we assume the OP did when he said he tested multiple time

                                          No, you should not. That's a crazy conclusion. It's exactly the opposite... you can almost guaranteed not expect anything close to that speed.

                                          huh - I frequently get within 5% of the speed - and more often than not, I get more speed than I paid for.

                                          Across the internet? I find that implausible. There are SO many bottlenecks, no one gets anywhere close. You can't use something like Speedtest to test as that specifically avoids all of the real world bottlenecks and tests the speed of your ISP, not the speed of your point to point capacity.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
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                                            I pay for 100/20 mbit/s
                                            Here is a test I just ran on speedtest.net.
                                            this is to a local to me location.
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                                            Here is to some place in Washington DC
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