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    • brandon220B
      brandon220
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      They only use the MS accounts to sign in to the PCs (most by using a pin) and for Outlook. They have no idea what the directory is or what it is for. They want "cloud" access but LAN access too.

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      • IRJI
        IRJ @brandon220
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        @brandon220 said in AzureAD and shares:

        . Their PCs are not "joined" to AzureAD but their user accounts reflect this. Should they be joined?

        He might not "need" this. Because his SaaS apps and azure VMs can connect to Azure AD itself. In a full cloud environment there may be little reason to have PCs domain joined. Especially if you aren't storing anything locally.

        You could just blow away PC if there is even the slightest of any issue. Also, you could utilize Linux , Chrome OS , or Mac in your environment with ease.

        You can also use Microsoft Intune to control Windows and Mac to a certain extent.

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @brandon220
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          @brandon220 said in AzureAD and shares:

          They want "cloud" access but LAN access too.

          Cloud access to what? Län access to what?

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          • coliverC
            coliver
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            Move everything to Sharepoint or OneDrive for Business. That would make the most sense in this case.

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            • brandon220B
              brandon220
              last edited by

              "Cloud" access to them is being able to access files in the browser. They also want to access the same files and folders locally on the LAN. Trying to pick my battles.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @brandon220
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                @brandon220 said in AzureAD and shares:

                "Cloud" access to them is being able to access files in the browser. They also want to access the same files and folders locally on the LAN. Trying to pick my battles.

                OneDrive for Business... if they are already using AzureAD they probably already have a license for it.

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                • brandon220B
                  brandon220 @coliver
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                  @coliver They tried OneDrive and had a ton of trouble. They were constantly calling MS support to recover folders and files that were deleted in the middle of the night, when nobody was at their office. Folders were moved into random places.

                  It is VERY possible that it was user error on each occasion but the logs did not reflect that. They lost a ton of files too that had to be recovered from a backup. I will say that I have read about other occasions with similar results.

                  Isn't there a 1Tb limit on OneDrive? They are trying to use a single OneDrive account as a "file server".

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @brandon220
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                    @brandon220 said in AzureAD and shares:

                    "Cloud" access to them is being able to access files in the browser. They also want to access the same files and folders locally on the LAN. Trying to pick my battles.

                    What kind of files and purposes?

                    ODFB is rarely the needed or correct solution to ideas like that.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @brandon220
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                      @brandon220 said in AzureAD and shares:

                      "Cloud" access to them is being able to access files in the browser. They also want to access the same files and folders locally on the LAN. Trying to pick my battles.

                      So don't call it cloud, since it isn't anyway.

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ @brandon220
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                        @brandon220 said in AzureAD and shares:

                        Isn't there a 1Tb limit on OneDrive? They are trying to use a single OneDrive account as a "file server".

                        That is why they dont know who is deleting shit. Everyone has permission to delete all files...

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ @brandon220
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                          @brandon220 said in AzureAD and shares:

                          @coliver They tried OneDrive and had a ton of trouble. They were constantly calling MS support to recover folders and files that were deleted in the middle of the night, when nobody was at their office. Folders were moved into random places.

                          It is VERY possible that it was user error on each occasion but the logs did not reflect that. They lost a ton of files too that had to be recovered from a backup. I will say that I have read about other occasions with similar results.

                          If they are using a single OD account, the logs aren't very helpful.

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                          • brandon220B
                            brandon220 @Obsolesce
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                            @Obsolesce Scenario is this:

                            Field techs use analyzers that collect monitoring data. They "sync" the data back to the main office. Each folder is a different job. There is a piece of custom software that takes that data and generates a report. Think of it as a large number of .dat files or raw data files.
                            They also store the reports that are generated as .pdf documents and have a large number of MS Office documents. It is less than 2 Tb total but the management is a pain point.

                            I added access points and configured a switch for them.... Now I'm getting pulled into a mess that has been pieced together over the years.

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                            • brandon220B
                              brandon220 @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller I know. It's hard to break people of bad habits.

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                              • brandon220B
                                brandon220 @IRJ
                                last edited by brandon220

                                @IRJ That is exactly the reason they cannot pinpoint all the anomalies to a specific user.

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @brandon220
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                                  @brandon220 said in AzureAD and shares:

                                  Field techs use analyzers that collect monitoring data. They "sync" the data back to the main office. Each folder is a different job.

                                  That smells like a web app using a DB, not at all a file share.

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                                  • brandon220B
                                    brandon220 @Obsolesce
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                                    @Obsolesce They were using OneDrive for syncing. They 2-way syncs were consuming all of the bandwidth.

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @brandon220
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                                      @brandon220 said in AzureAD and shares:

                                      @Obsolesce They were using OneDrive for syncing. They 2-way syncs were consuming all of the bandwidth.

                                      They can use an Azure DB with a web app attached to Azure storage. They can use the web app to track all the data and hold all the files, generate reports, etc. They don't know what they need at all, are trying to use the wrong tool for the wrong job. Plain and simple.

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                                      • IRJI
                                        IRJ
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                                        Send to database and then back up the database. That's what needs to be done

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                                        • brandon220B
                                          brandon220
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                                          @IRJ @Obsolesce They actually want a DB for this data but keep finding subpar developers and wasting money.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                                            @IRJ said in AzureAD and shares:

                                            @brandon220 said in AzureAD and shares:

                                            Isn't there a 1Tb limit on OneDrive? They are trying to use a single OneDrive account as a "file server".

                                            That is why they dont know who is deleting shit. Everyone has permission to delete all files...

                                            Yeah, if they misused SMB shares like that, they'd have the same issues.

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