Top 10 Advantages of Using Wordpress for Website Development
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Here is a good takeaway... if you think WP is bad, or is difficult to manage... don't worry about it, send those customers over to us. There are lots of us here who'd love to have them and don't find any issues managing updates, security, performance, site changes, etc. If you have difficult WP sites and customers, you have a place to send them where we it as no problem at all.
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@guyinpv said in Top 10 Advantages of Using Wordpress for Website Development:
Second, you absolutely should change the admin URL if possible, it's a very simple and basic thing that stops a ton of bot attacks by default. But WP doesn't make it easy, so it's rarely done. And keeping core files out of web root is also a very easy security measure that most modern software do by default, only exposing the public files and index.
No, you absolutely should not change the Admin URL. That is a total myth and does nothing for security and only breaks things. That is 100% fact. Never do that.
Moving files around also breaks things. You really are screwing up every WP site you touch. No wonder you have problems with it...
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@Obsolesce said in Top 10 Advantages of Using Wordpress for Website Development:
@guyinpv said in Top 10 Advantages of Using Wordpress for Website Development:
Second, you absolutely should change the admin URL if possible, it's a very simple and basic thing that stops a ton of bot attacks by default. But WP doesn't make it easy, so it's rarely done. And keeping core files out of web root is also a very easy security measure that most modern software do by default, only exposing the public files and index.
Moving files around also breaks things. You really are screwing up every WP site you touch. No wonder you have problems with it...
Dude, for the last time, I'm not the one doing these things, this is what is already done on sites I have to work on. This is what everybody else does, because out of 200 developers, there are 200 ways they like to do things or protect things or tweak the file system. Yes, Roots Bedrock is a thing people use to change the file system. Yes, people change the login URL, because at best there are mixed opinions about these security tweaks. There are lots of plugins which do just this, and people install them all the time.
Scott, brother, you need to stop with the hyper analyzing sentence-by-sentence, I can't respond to a dozen individual messages like this.
@scottalanmiller said in Top 10 Advantages of Using Wordpress for Website Development:
@guyinpv said in Top 10 Advantages of Using Wordpress for Website Development:
Creating a new WP site and not doing a full security stack of plugins would be like doing a fresh install of Windows XP and putting it on the internet with no antivirus!
Um, no. You absolutely don't use some big stack of plugins. Maybe one. Maybe not. That's it.
If you build WP sites with one plugin, you're definitely doing it wrong. WP doesn't have enough core features to run a decent site without various multiple plugins. If a site even wants to have ecommerce, they already need Woo, an import plugin, a payment plugin, some cart feature plugins, a shipper plugin, etc. Everybody runs Yoast or some other SEO plugin. A cache plugin, performance plugins, image optimizer, social networks, analytics.
I've never even seen a WP site with just one plugin. You don't even get just one on a fresh install!@scottalanmiller said in Top 10 Advantages of Using Wordpress for Website Development:
@guyinpv said in Top 10 Advantages of Using Wordpress for Website Development:
On what planet is a CMS powerful or great when it takes 5.5 hours to find some text in the footer?
You actually think that there is a modern, powerful CMS that isn't like this when the designer screws up? On what planet have you used products?
That's the problem, the footer text being hard to find wasn't a screw up of the designer, it's just the way they had to do it based on WP lack of consistency and how all their plugins and theme stuff interact and there is no actual "template" anywhere.
It's ok to not try and convince me how "powerful" WP is, I'm aware of how it works, I've laid out many points already. I'm painfully aware of its problems, for 10+ years now.
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@guyinpv said in Top 10 Advantages of Using Wordpress for Website Development:
This is what everybody else does, because out of 200 developers, there are 200 ways they like to do things or protect things or tweak the file system.
Definitely not a WP issue. It's like that all over IT. You have people misconfiguring all sorts of technology, services, apps, etc because of bad information, understanding, idiocy, etc. Just ask any MSP... They see it all the time. Web apps are no exception.
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@guyinpv said in Top 10 Advantages of Using Wordpress for Website Development:
Dude, for the last time, I'm not the one doing these things, this is what is already done on sites I have to work on. This is what everybody else does, because out of 200 developers, there are 200 ways they like to do things or protect things or tweak the file system.
There is no product in the world that the IT guy can't break if he wants to, though.
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@guyinpv said in Top 10 Advantages of Using Wordpress for Website Development:
It's ok to not try and convince me how "powerful" WP is, I'm aware of how it works, I've laid out many points already. I'm painfully aware of its problems, for 10+ years now.
Instead of being frustrated, send all these customers my way. I'd love to handle all this stuff, we do WP all the time and while any product will have problems when abused, that's our job to fix it and manage it for people who obviously can't do it themselves (which often includes their bad IT people.)
Whether you see WP as great and these things as not problems, or you see them as frustrating but good business opportunities, as an IT firm that does WP hosting, design, and support, we would be thrilled to take this problem off of your hands. No need to feel like it's a bad thing.
