Buying a New Car
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Definitely don't trade it in. You'll get ripped off. You're almost always better off selling it privately (here in MI, anyway). Unless, of course, your car is worth less than like $2000 and the dealer is offering $2000 guaranteed... I doubt that's the case though.
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@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:
@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
I would never again buy a new car, even with a promo and heavy discount. The absolute newest I'd go is 3-5 years depending on the car, but generally older.
The used ones are practically the same price.
I see a $10-15k difference between 2019 and 2015 and 2014. That's a huge amount. That's more than I paid brand new for my daily driver lol.
I'm with ya on this one. I like to purchase a 1 year off lease from one owner if I can find it. Those are the best deals going. The trick is to find one with 15K miles or less. Do that, you get 30% of list, the balance of the warranty and no need for repairs for two years. Good value at that price
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@bnrstnr said in Buying a New Car:
Definitely don't trade it in. You'll get ripped off. You're almost always better off selling it privately (here in MI, anyway). Unless, of course, your car is worth less than like $2000 and the dealer is offering $2000 guaranteed... I doubt that's the case though.
For me, there was a repair that needed to be done to my 2005 camry that would've either just frightened buyers away, or would make the car worth about $1500. I ended up trading it to my dealer rather than CarMax. Doing the math, doing so cost me $9 over the next 5 years. So for $9, it was worth the convenience of leaving my old car at the dealer and driving new car home.
Otherwise, I would've definitely looked at doing a private sale for mine.
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@EddieJennings said in Buying a New Car:
@bnrstnr said in Buying a New Car:
Definitely don't trade it in. You'll get ripped off. You're almost always better off selling it privately (here in MI, anyway). Unless, of course, your car is worth less than like $2000 and the dealer is offering $2000 guaranteed... I doubt that's the case though.
For me, there was a repair that needed to be done to my 2005 camry that would've either just frightened buyers away, or would make the car worth about $1500. I ended up trading it to my dealer rather than CarMax. Doing the math, doing so cost me $9 over the next 5 years. So for $9, it was worth the convenience of leaving my old car at the dealer and driving new car home.
Otherwise, I would've definitely looked at doing a private sale for mine.
A few years ago a dealer offered me $2000 for my 2005 Saab 9-3, I ended up selling it to a desperate family member for $2500, I could have sold it privately for about $4000. It's a pain in the ass to sell, and you have to deal with a lot of window shoppers, but if it doesn't cost you anything to sit on it for a few months, you can come out a couple thousand dollars ahead.
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@bnrstnr said in Buying a New Car:
Definitely don't trade it in. You'll get ripped off. You're almost always better off selling it privately (here in MI, anyway). Unless, of course, your car is worth less than like $2000 and the dealer is offering $2000 guaranteed... I doubt that's the case though.
Yeah, it is definitely worth more than that and I know trade-in is lower. I just hate the hassle of having to deal with flakes and jackasses that aren't serious and just want to joy ride. Where I am from, it is easier to say who isn't a flake than who is.
We'll see.
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We've made out well twice on trade ins. They were older vehicles with serious mechanical issues. We took advantage of Chrysler's loyalty program and they offered double trade in value since it was a Mopar product. We got $3k for a vehicle with 220k miles and a blown head gasket.
Trade ins are only good for junkers or in occasion special deals offered by dealer.
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@wrx7m just curious, to you, what sets the WRX STI apart from the rest of the cars in that price range? It seems like a nice car, but I've not owned one like that.
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@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m just curious, to you, what sets the WRX STI apart from the rest of the cars in that price range? It seems like a nice car, but I've not owned one like that.
Power, handling, feel. It's an extremely serious vehicle.
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@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m just curious, to you, what sets the WRX STI apart from the rest of the cars in that price range? It seems like a nice car, but I've not owned one like that.
Driving a WRX is seriously one of the most fun things I've done. It's got an amazing amount of power for the price. And handling under acceleration is just awesome. It's a ton of fun to ride along with someone racing one too.
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@coliver said in Buying a New Car:
@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m just curious, to you, what sets the WRX STI apart from the rest of the cars in that price range? It seems like a nice car, but I've not owned one like that.
Driving a WRX is seriously one of the most fun things I've done. It's got an amazing amount of power for the price. And handling under acceleration is just awesome. It's a ton of fun to ride along with someone racing one too.
I understand. I would have liked that maybe 15 years ago, but now I just drive easy and would never notice these.
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@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@coliver said in Buying a New Car:
@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m just curious, to you, what sets the WRX STI apart from the rest of the cars in that price range? It seems like a nice car, but I've not owned one like that.
Driving a WRX is seriously one of the most fun things I've done. It's got an amazing amount of power for the price. And handling under acceleration is just awesome. It's a ton of fun to ride along with someone racing one too.
I understand. I would have liked that maybe 15 years ago, but now I just drive easy and would never notice these.
Oh yeah. It was my dream car when I was 16.... today I drive a minivan and am extremely happy with that.
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@coliver said in Buying a New Car:
@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@coliver said in Buying a New Car:
@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m just curious, to you, what sets the WRX STI apart from the rest of the cars in that price range? It seems like a nice car, but I've not owned one like that.
Driving a WRX is seriously one of the most fun things I've done. It's got an amazing amount of power for the price. And handling under acceleration is just awesome. It's a ton of fun to ride along with someone racing one too.
I understand. I would have liked that maybe 15 years ago, but now I just drive easy and would never notice these.
Oh yeah. It was my dream car when I was 16.... today I drive a minivan and am extremely happy with that.
Two cars ago, I was looking for nice car for my wife. I found a '98 Acura 3.0 CL. What I didn't realize, was that I was really buying my 'midlife crisis'. Too much power, runs on the back roads like it has DNA for it. Few things feel as nice as a hot car.
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@scotth said in Buying a New Car:
@coliver said in Buying a New Car:
@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@coliver said in Buying a New Car:
@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m just curious, to you, what sets the WRX STI apart from the rest of the cars in that price range? It seems like a nice car, but I've not owned one like that.
Driving a WRX is seriously one of the most fun things I've done. It's got an amazing amount of power for the price. And handling under acceleration is just awesome. It's a ton of fun to ride along with someone racing one too.
I understand. I would have liked that maybe 15 years ago, but now I just drive easy and would never notice these.
Oh yeah. It was my dream car when I was 16.... today I drive a minivan and am extremely happy with that.
Two cars ago, I was looking for nice car for my wife. I found a '98 Acura 3.0 CL. What I didn't realize, was that I was really buying my 'midlife crisis'. Too much power, runs on the back roads like it has DNA for it. Few things feel as nice as a hot car.
Haha, I'm only 29... plenty of time before I'm allowed a mid-life crisis. If I want to go fast I do it on the snow.
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@coliver said in Buying a New Car:
@scotth said in Buying a New Car:
@coliver said in Buying a New Car:
@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@coliver said in Buying a New Car:
@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m just curious, to you, what sets the WRX STI apart from the rest of the cars in that price range? It seems like a nice car, but I've not owned one like that.
Driving a WRX is seriously one of the most fun things I've done. It's got an amazing amount of power for the price. And handling under acceleration is just awesome. It's a ton of fun to ride along with someone racing one too.
I understand. I would have liked that maybe 15 years ago, but now I just drive easy and would never notice these.
Oh yeah. It was my dream car when I was 16.... today I drive a minivan and am extremely happy with that.
Two cars ago, I was looking for nice car for my wife. I found a '98 Acura 3.0 CL. What I didn't realize, was that I was really buying my 'midlife crisis'. Too much power, runs on the back roads like it has DNA for it. Few things feel as nice as a hot car.
Haha, I'm only 29... plenty of time before I'm allowed a mid-life crisis. If I want to go fast I do it on the snow.
Make the wife drive You'll do both
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@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m just curious, to you, what sets the WRX STI apart from the rest of the cars in that price range? It seems like a nice car, but I've not owned one like that.
Yeah, what the others have said. It is a car for people who like driving. It is also very reliable and very customizable. There are tons of aftermarket products and support for it. You can add some exhaust and intake bolt on parts and get an ECU tune by a pro and easyily get 30% more HP and torque without affecting reliability. My current car has 350ish HP/Torque to the wheels and I am almost to 143K miles and it is 12 years old.
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@wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:
@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m just curious, to you, what sets the WRX STI apart from the rest of the cars in that price range? It seems like a nice car, but I've not owned one like that.
Yeah, what the others have said. It is a car for people who like driving. It is also very reliable and very customizable. There are tons of aftermarket products and support for it. You can add some exhaust and intake bolt on parts and get an ECU tune by a pro and easyily get 30% more HP and torque without affecting reliability. My current car has 350ish HP/Torque to the wheels and I am almost to 143K miles and it is 12 years old.
Subarus are also stupid reliable. Most of my friends who are Subaru fanatics have vehicles that are well in to the 300K mile range and still going with very little maintenance outside of an oil/fluid change.
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@coliver said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:
@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m just curious, to you, what sets the WRX STI apart from the rest of the cars in that price range? It seems like a nice car, but I've not owned one like that.
Yeah, what the others have said. It is a car for people who like driving. It is also very reliable and very customizable. There are tons of aftermarket products and support for it. You can add some exhaust and intake bolt on parts and get an ECU tune by a pro and easyily get 30% more HP and torque without affecting reliability. My current car has 350ish HP/Torque to the wheels and I am almost to 143K miles and it is 12 years old.
Subarus are also stupid reliable. Most of my friends who are Subaru fanatics have vehicles that are well in to the 300K mile range and still going with very little maintenance outside of an oil/fluid change.
I will also add, that in the past few years and based on my recommendations, my parents, my girlfriend, a good friend and a co-worker/friend have all bought Subarus. Each different models and they love them.
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@wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:
@coliver said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:
@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m just curious, to you, what sets the WRX STI apart from the rest of the cars in that price range? It seems like a nice car, but I've not owned one like that.
Yeah, what the others have said. It is a car for people who like driving. It is also very reliable and very customizable. There are tons of aftermarket products and support for it. You can add some exhaust and intake bolt on parts and get an ECU tune by a pro and easyily get 30% more HP and torque without affecting reliability. My current car has 350ish HP/Torque to the wheels and I am almost to 143K miles and it is 12 years old.
Subarus are also stupid reliable. Most of my friends who are Subaru fanatics have vehicles that are well in to the 300K mile range and still going with very little maintenance outside of an oil/fluid change.
I will also add, that in the past few years and based on my recommendations, my parents, my girlfriend, a good friend and a co-worker/friend have all bought Subarus. Each different models and they love them.
I've never dealt with a Subaru that I didn't like. A buddy from high school went through a horrific accident in a Subaru and walked away. Best sales pitch for them that I could possibly imagine.
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@wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:
@coliver said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:
@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m just curious, to you, what sets the WRX STI apart from the rest of the cars in that price range? It seems like a nice car, but I've not owned one like that.
Yeah, what the others have said. It is a car for people who like driving. It is also very reliable and very customizable. There are tons of aftermarket products and support for it. You can add some exhaust and intake bolt on parts and get an ECU tune by a pro and easyily get 30% more HP and torque without affecting reliability. My current car has 350ish HP/Torque to the wheels and I am almost to 143K miles and it is 12 years old.
Subarus are also stupid reliable. Most of my friends who are Subaru fanatics have vehicles that are well in to the 300K mile range and still going with very little maintenance outside of an oil/fluid change.
I will also add, that in the past few years and based on my recommendations, my parents, my girlfriend, a good friend and a co-worker/friend have all bought Subarus. Each different models and they love them.
I really like the Crosstrek. Probably my favorite style they offer right now. Really wish they would bring the Baja back.
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@coliver said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:
@coliver said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:
@Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:
@wrx7m just curious, to you, what sets the WRX STI apart from the rest of the cars in that price range? It seems like a nice car, but I've not owned one like that.
Yeah, what the others have said. It is a car for people who like driving. It is also very reliable and very customizable. There are tons of aftermarket products and support for it. You can add some exhaust and intake bolt on parts and get an ECU tune by a pro and easyily get 30% more HP and torque without affecting reliability. My current car has 350ish HP/Torque to the wheels and I am almost to 143K miles and it is 12 years old.
Subarus are also stupid reliable. Most of my friends who are Subaru fanatics have vehicles that are well in to the 300K mile range and still going with very little maintenance outside of an oil/fluid change.
I will also add, that in the past few years and based on my recommendations, my parents, my girlfriend, a good friend and a co-worker/friend have all bought Subarus. Each different models and they love them.
I really like the Crosstrek. Probably my favorite style they offer right now. Really wish they would bring the Baja back.
I love the crosstrek, just not the performance. There have been rumors for a few years that they would make an STi variant. That would be the shit.