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    Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing

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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @dave247
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      @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

      @Obsolesce said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

      @dbeato said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

      @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

      not on Windows 10 Enterprise. The registry settings may or may not technically work, so I'm holding off on that solution unless there is no other way.

      We have WSUS with Windows 10 1803 professional and we do not have DUal Scan so they will not upgrade until approved.

      Yeah, same here... however, I also have a group policy enabled company wide that strictly blocks OS upgrades. When I approve them in WSUS, then they upgrade. But never before.

      My main point is that we have all versions of Win10 running, controlled by WSUS, and they only upgrade when approved in WSUS. There has never been a different result.

      Can you maybe provide me with your settings you applied to prevent that?

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      • dbeatoD
        dbeato @dave247
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        @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

        @Obsolesce said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

        @dbeato said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

        @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

        not on Windows 10 Enterprise. The registry settings may or may not technically work, so I'm holding off on that solution unless there is no other way.

        We have WSUS with Windows 10 1803 professional and we do not have DUal Scan so they will not upgrade until approved.

        Yeah, same here... however, I also have a group policy enabled company wide that strictly blocks OS upgrades. When I approve them in WSUS, then they upgrade. But never before.

        My main point is that we have all versions of Win10 running, controlled by WSUS, and they only upgrade when approved in WSUS. There has never been a different result.

        Can you maybe provide me with your settings you applied to prevent that?

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @Obsolesce
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          @Obsolesce said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

          @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

          @Obsolesce said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

          @dbeato said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

          @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

          not on Windows 10 Enterprise. The registry settings may or may not technically work, so I'm holding off on that solution unless there is no other way.

          We have WSUS with Windows 10 1803 professional and we do not have DUal Scan so they will not upgrade until approved.

          Yeah, same here... however, I also have a group policy enabled company wide that strictly blocks OS upgrades. When I approve them in WSUS, then they upgrade. But never before.

          My main point is that we have all versions of Win10 running, controlled by WSUS, and they only upgrade when approved in WSUS. There has never been a different result.

          Can you maybe provide me with your settings you applied to prevent that?

          fdf7a93b-8a44-47af-9e25-d1a53ffc60fe-image.png
          a32238e4-b57c-4bf9-909e-8ee674038c5e-image.png

          I've been using this policy since 11/18/2015 and has worked 100% ever since. My last modification was 6/10/2016, though I don't remember what that was.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            I don't have @Obsolesce settings in place, and none of my machines did this Dual Scan thing.

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            • dave247D
              dave247 @Obsolesce
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              @Obsolesce said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

              @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

              @Obsolesce said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

              @dbeato said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

              @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

              not on Windows 10 Enterprise. The registry settings may or may not technically work, so I'm holding off on that solution unless there is no other way.

              We have WSUS with Windows 10 1803 professional and we do not have DUal Scan so they will not upgrade until approved.

              Yeah, same here... however, I also have a group policy enabled company wide that strictly blocks OS upgrades. When I approve them in WSUS, then they upgrade. But never before.

              My main point is that we have all versions of Win10 running, controlled by WSUS, and they only upgrade when approved in WSUS. There has never been a different result.

              Can you maybe provide me with your settings you applied to prevent that?

              fdf7a93b-8a44-47af-9e25-d1a53ffc60fe-image.png
              a32238e4-b57c-4bf9-909e-8ee674038c5e-image.png

              hmm.. I can give that a try but when I searched"GWX" it looks like it was meant to prevent Windows 7/8/8.1 systems from upgrading to Windows 10.

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              • dave247D
                dave247 @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                I don't have @Obsolesce settings in place, and none of my machines did this Dual Scan thing.

                I had a few Windows 10 machines that didn't upgrade either and I don't really know why. Some of them were the same Windows 10 images as the other ones that upgraded, so idk.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @dave247
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                  @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                  @Dashrender said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                  I don't have @Obsolesce settings in place, and none of my machines did this Dual Scan thing.

                  I had a few Windows 10 machines that didn't upgrade either and I don't really know why. Some of them were the same Windows 10 images as the other ones that upgraded, so idk.

                  What are the chances (and I don't care what JB says - I don't agree) that those three had an image from VLSC media, and the rest are from the publicly available Windows 10 media?

                  When I build an install USB from the Public media - I only get the option to install Home or pro. When I build an install USB from the VLSC media - I get Enterprise/Pro/Pro for workstations/Education/Home. There is a difference.

                  Also WSUS sees a difference between consumer and business
                  4f91d73c-8283-4faa-9733-c044c314828f-image.png
                  I do not have any Windows 10 Home on my network, so when it's talking about consumer, I'm assuming it's talking about OEM or publicly available media used for install.

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                  • dbeatoD
                    dbeato @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                    I do not have any Windows 10 Home on my network, so when it's talking about consumer, I'm assuming it's talking about OEM or publicly available media used for install.

                    Correct

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                    • sully93S
                      sully93
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                      This is what I have to prevent my clients from communicating to Microsoft Update servers:

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ
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                        https://media.makeameme.org/created/now-witness-the-xeedgd.jpg

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @IRJ
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                          @IRJ said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                          https://media.makeameme.org/created/now-witness-the-xeedgd.jpg

                          Quick, before it gets blown up!

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ @travisdh1
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                            @travisdh1 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                            @IRJ said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                            https://media.makeameme.org/created/now-witness-the-xeedgd.jpg

                            Quick, before it gets blown up!

                            I could totally see Microsoft building a battle station the size of a small moon. Then not worrying about a vulnerability the size of a womprat that blows the entire thing up.

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                            • dave247D
                              dave247 @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                              @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                              @Dashrender said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                              I don't have @Obsolesce settings in place, and none of my machines did this Dual Scan thing.

                              I had a few Windows 10 machines that didn't upgrade either and I don't really know why. Some of them were the same Windows 10 images as the other ones that upgraded, so idk.

                              What are the chances (and I don't care what JB says - I don't agree) that those three had an image from VLSC media, and the rest are from the publicly available Windows 10 media?

                              When I build an install USB from the Public media - I only get the option to install Home or pro. When I build an install USB from the VLSC media - I get Enterprise/Pro/Pro for workstations/Education/Home. There is a difference.

                              Also WSUS sees a difference between consumer and business
                              4f91d73c-8283-4faa-9733-c044c314828f-image.png
                              I do not have any Windows 10 Home on my network, so when it's talking about consumer, I'm assuming it's talking about OEM or publicly available media used for install.

                              All of these systems were Dell OptiPlex systems (bundled with Windows 10) but then I used a VLSC Windows 10 image with MDT to image them all. Most of these were all upgraded automatically but there was 1 or 2 that did not.

                              I know that one of the systems was a consumer version of Windows 10 which the previous tech installed - no idea where he got it.

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                              • dbeatoD
                                dbeato @dave247
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                                @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                e systems was a consumer version of Windows 10 which the previous tech installed - no idea where he got it.

                                Probably came pre-installed on the Dell Computer and not imaged.

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                                • dave247D
                                  dave247 @dbeato
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                                  @dbeato said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                  @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                  e systems was a consumer version of Windows 10 which the previous tech installed - no idea where he got it.

                                  Probably came pre-installed on the Dell Computer and not imaged.

                                  Actually it had Windows 7 installed on it but then the co-worker put his version of Windows 10 that I think he got from college on it, and a few other systems. So idk.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @dave247
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                                    @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                    @dbeato said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                    @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                    e systems was a consumer version of Windows 10 which the previous tech installed - no idea where he got it.

                                    Probably came pre-installed on the Dell Computer and not imaged.

                                    Actually it had Windows 7 installed on it but then the co-worker put his version of Windows 10 that I think he got from college on it, and a few other systems. So idk.

                                    Windows 10 is free for download... the license is another story. The machines might have come with win 7 pre loaded but the built in license might have been win 10, or it could have gotten the free upgrades

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @dave247
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                                      @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                      @dbeato said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                      @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                      e systems was a consumer version of Windows 10 which the previous tech installed - no idea where he got it.

                                      Probably came pre-installed on the Dell Computer and not imaged.

                                      Actually it had Windows 7 installed on it but then the co-worker put his version of Windows 10 that I think he got from college on it, and a few other systems. So idk.

                                      Windows 10 will activate on a Windows 7 license. So should be all set from that perspective.

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                                      • dave247D
                                        dave247 @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                        @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                        @dbeato said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                        @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                        e systems was a consumer version of Windows 10 which the previous tech installed - no idea where he got it.

                                        Probably came pre-installed on the Dell Computer and not imaged.

                                        Actually it had Windows 7 installed on it but then the co-worker put his version of Windows 10 that I think he got from college on it, and a few other systems. So idk.

                                        Windows 10 will activate on a Windows 7 license. So should be all set from that perspective.

                                        I don't think so.. and it was a fresh install, or at least I know he used the Windows 10 key that he had been provided. That key was also used on about 5 other systems at the time.

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                                        • dave247D
                                          dave247 @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                          @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                          @dbeato said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                          @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                          e systems was a consumer version of Windows 10 which the previous tech installed - no idea where he got it.

                                          Probably came pre-installed on the Dell Computer and not imaged.

                                          Actually it had Windows 7 installed on it but then the co-worker put his version of Windows 10 that I think he got from college on it, and a few other systems. So idk.

                                          Windows 10 is free for download... the license is another story. The machines might have come with win 7 pre loaded but the built in license might have been win 10, or it could have gotten the free upgrades

                                          Not the case here.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @dave247
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                                            @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                            @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                            @dbeato said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                            @dave247 said in Most of my Windows 10 1803 computers upgraded to 1809 despite it not being approved in WSUS / Dual Scan is a thing:

                                            e systems was a consumer version of Windows 10 which the previous tech installed - no idea where he got it.

                                            Probably came pre-installed on the Dell Computer and not imaged.

                                            Actually it had Windows 7 installed on it but then the co-worker put his version of Windows 10 that I think he got from college on it, and a few other systems. So idk.

                                            Windows 10 will activate on a Windows 7 license. So should be all set from that perspective.

                                            I don't think so.. and it was a fresh install, or at least I know he used the Windows 10 key that he had been provided. That key was also used on about 5 other systems at the time.

                                            You can work around it, but should accept the Win 7 key, too.

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