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    Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage

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    • dave247D
      dave247
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      I'm not a storage expert but I would think you would want to start by creating a RAID volume first. You're not going to be able to just add to your existing storage volume and you would need additional hdd slots in your server in order to add more storage...

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      • black3dynamiteB
        black3dynamite
        last edited by black3dynamite

        On Hyper-V, use file and storage services to create a pool of 5 drives?

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          The system I am using is old. BIOS has no usable options for RAID and I don't know what a RAID controller is.

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 So much fail in that 🌶 thread.

            #1 You don't use Windows Software RAID, if running Hyper-V and Windows on top as well, you use a real hardware RAID controller.

            #2 Hyper-V made doing storage passthrough a PITA last I checked, so you add the drives as a single volume to the host and then create a single vhd that uses the entire space of the volume.

            #3 An 18.5 TB array of 5 drives can not physically read all the data on the array in a reasonable amount of time, so you should be using a proper RAID10 or 6 instead of RAID0 (no possible way this can be used as a temporary cache.)

            #4 While you could set this up how you are asking, it WILL FAIL

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            • dave247D
              dave247 @DustinB3403
              last edited by dave247

              @DustinB3403 said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

              The system I am using is old. BIOS has no usable options for RAID and I don't know what a RAID controller is.

              You don't know what a RAID controller is? Time to do some reading. Basically it's a logic card that manages the placement of data across multiple drives, depending on how you configure the RAID levels. Then it presents that to the OS as a single logical volume - the OS doesn't see the individual drives.

              • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_array_controller
              • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels

              What server do you have? Do you have a service tag?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @dave247
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                @dave247 said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                @DustinB3403 said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                The system I am using is old. BIOS has no usable options for RAID and I don't know what a RAID controller is.

                You don't know what a RAID controller is? Time to do some reading.

                What server do you have? Do you have a service tag?

                The server is an HP Z600, the drives are 3.7TB each with a total of five drives.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                  @dave247 said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                  The system I am using is old. BIOS has no usable options for RAID and I don't know what a RAID controller is.

                  You don't know what a RAID controller is? Time to do some reading.

                  What server do you have? Do you have a service tag?

                  The server is an HP Z600, the drives are 3.7TB each with a total of five drives.

                  Probably consumer level 4TB drives that show up as 3.7TB to the system in this case.

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                  • dave247D
                    dave247 @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                    HP Z600,

                    https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01720141

                    You're probably going to want to re-think your setup.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @travisdh1
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                      @travisdh1 said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                      #2 Hyper-V made doing storage passthrough a PITA last I checked, so you add the drives as a single volume to the host and then create a single vhd that uses the entire space of the volume.

                      You'd also almost never want to do this. It's stupid and breaks many of the advantages of virtualization. Let the hypervisor manage the storage.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
                        last edited by Dashrender

                        @DustinB3403 said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                        The system I am using is old. BIOS has no usable options for RAID and I don't know what a RAID controller is.

                        So much fail - please send all this equipment back and resign from your company.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                          @travisdh1 said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                          #2 Hyper-V made doing storage passthrough a PITA last I checked, so you add the drives as a single volume to the host and then create a single vhd that uses the entire space of the volume.

                          You'd also almost never want to do this. It's stupid and breaks many of the advantages of virtualization. Let the hypervisor manage the storage.

                          isn't the host Travis is talking about Hyper-V? i.e. he is having the hypervisor manage the storage?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                            @coliver said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                            @travisdh1 said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                            #2 Hyper-V made doing storage passthrough a PITA last I checked, so you add the drives as a single volume to the host and then create a single vhd that uses the entire space of the volume.

                            You'd also almost never want to do this. It's stupid and breaks many of the advantages of virtualization. Let the hypervisor manage the storage.

                            isn't the host Travis is talking about Hyper-V? i.e. he is having the hypervisor manage the storage?

                            I just connected the drives into the server and let Hyper-V start up. So I see 5 individual drives listed.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                              @Dashrender said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                              @coliver said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                              @travisdh1 said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                              #2 Hyper-V made doing storage passthrough a PITA last I checked, so you add the drives as a single volume to the host and then create a single vhd that uses the entire space of the volume.

                              You'd also almost never want to do this. It's stupid and breaks many of the advantages of virtualization. Let the hypervisor manage the storage.

                              isn't the host Travis is talking about Hyper-V? i.e. he is having the hypervisor manage the storage?

                              I just connected the drives into the server and let Hyper-V start up. So I see 5 individual drives listed.

                              What's the point of this thread? Clearly Dustin is not the one in need of help here - so this thread is just a troll?

                              moving on.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said in Hyper-V Server 2016 - How should someone add 18.5 TB of storage:

                                so this thread is just a troll?

                                Yes.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  Checking the OP on SW, he is in Israel and self identifies as only having been in IT for a year.

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                                  • dbeatoD
                                    dbeato
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                                    This post have the the threads
                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/18824/18tb-spanned-volume-with-consumer-grade-sata-drives

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                                    • CloudKnightC
                                      CloudKnight
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                                      Oh dear.....{sigh..}

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