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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

      @BRRABill Nakivo, URBackup... lots of options. Just not from Veeam. Which is too bad as Veeam is amazing.

      Right. I know everyone loves it.

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        dave_c @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

        @dave_c said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

        @magicmarker said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

        What is the typical Veeam backup server OS recommendation for SMB then? Should I be looking at going with a Windows 2016 OS instead?

        We always use Windows Server 2016 with ReFS. Another option recommended by Veeam is Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, especially if you are going to use ReFS

        Problem is "recommended by Veeam" doesn't mean that you can get a license to do it. That's only for people where MS EULA doesn't apply.
        ...

        Just found this on http://www.veeam.com/veeam_backup_9_5_whats_new_wn.pdf (page 5)

        Instant recovery of agent backups to a Hyper-V VM now support Windows 10 Hyper-V as the target hypervisor. This is particularly useful
        for managed service providers by enabling them to create low-cost all-in-one BCDR appliances to deploy at their clients’ premises.
        

        It seems like Veeam doesn't care about MS EULA. Or perhaps I'm missing an exception in the EULA

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @dave_c
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          @dave_c said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

          @scottalanmiller said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

          @dave_c said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

          @magicmarker said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

          What is the typical Veeam backup server OS recommendation for SMB then? Should I be looking at going with a Windows 2016 OS instead?

          We always use Windows Server 2016 with ReFS. Another option recommended by Veeam is Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, especially if you are going to use ReFS

          Problem is "recommended by Veeam" doesn't mean that you can get a license to do it. That's only for people where MS EULA doesn't apply.
          ...

          Just found this on http://www.veeam.com/veeam_backup_9_5_whats_new_wn.pdf (page 5)

          Instant recovery of agent backups to a Hyper-V VM now support Windows 10 Hyper-V as the target hypervisor. This is particularly useful
          for managed service providers by enabling them to create low-cost all-in-one BCDR appliances to deploy at their clients’ premises.
          

          It seems like Veeam doesn't care about MS EULA. Or perhaps I'm missing an exception in the EULA

          This should be totally ok, as long as they are only used on that local machine, and not served as servers to others on the network (and it's licensed as required).

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce
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            Just remember that per the Win10 EULA, you can only virtualize Win10 if it's the only licensed Windows VM.

            I don't have it in front of me to verify, but that's what I remember reading on there. Will verify a bit later.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
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              Nothing in that says it is running Windows 10 guests. It is using Hyper-V on Windows 10 for temporary DR.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @dave_c
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                @dave_c of course Veeam doesnt care. EuLA is your problem to deal with. Has nothing to do with them.

                We already stated that.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                  @Obsolesce said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

                  Just remember that per the Win10 EULA, you can only virtualize Win10 if it's the only licensed Windows VM.

                  I don't have it in front of me to verify, but that's what I remember reading on there. Will verify a bit later.

                  Thats not the issue. And not the case. VDI licensing gets you around that. But nothing gets you around the no-server use EULA.

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

                    @Obsolesce said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

                    Just remember that per the Win10 EULA, you can only virtualize Win10 if it's the only licensed Windows VM.

                    I don't have it in front of me to verify, but that's what I remember reading on there. Will verify a bit later.

                    Thats not the issue. And not the case. VDI licensing gets you around that. But nothing gets you around the no-server use EULA.

                    Did not know VDI was involved in the OPs case.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                      @Obsolesce said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

                      @Obsolesce said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

                      Just remember that per the Win10 EULA, you can only virtualize Win10 if it's the only licensed Windows VM.

                      I don't have it in front of me to verify, but that's what I remember reading on there. Will verify a bit later.

                      Thats not the issue. And not the case. VDI licensing gets you around that. But nothing gets you around the no-server use EULA.

                      Did not know VDI was involved in the OPs case.

                      Its the licensing for more than one Windows workstation on a server.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

                        @Obsolesce said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

                        @Obsolesce said in Correct license for a Win 10 Veeam backup server on Type-1 Hypervisor:

                        Just remember that per the Win10 EULA, you can only virtualize Win10 if it's the only licensed Windows VM.

                        I don't have it in front of me to verify, but that's what I remember reading on there. Will verify a bit later.

                        Thats not the issue. And not the case. VDI licensing gets you around that. But nothing gets you around the no-server use EULA.

                        Did not know VDI was involved in the OPs case.

                        Its the licensing for more than one Windows workstation on a server.

                        Yeah:

                        Licensing Windows desktop operating system for use with virtual machines
                        http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/8/D/98D6A56C-4D79-40F4-8462-DA3ECBA2DC2C/Licensing_Windows_Desktop_OS_for_Virtual_Machines.pdf

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