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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by

      Just removed it the same way.
      73d46352-ffeb-456e-8f2c-ea43d0c76011-image.png

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        Can you check and see if you have kernel-modules installed (and the squashfs drivers).

        This is from last year, but maybe there is still an incompatibility.

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        • brandon220B
          brandon220
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          What snap applications would one normally run instead of installing the traditional way? Are there worries about them being insecure? For instance - I saw there is a Nextcloud snap. Would you ever consider using it?

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @brandon220
            last edited by

            @brandon220 said in What is the right way to install snap on Fedora:

            For instance - I saw there is a Nextcloud snap. Would you ever consider using it?

            Never.

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            • brandon220B
              brandon220 @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said in What is the right way to install snap on Fedora:

              @brandon220 said in What is the right way to install snap on Fedora:

              For instance - I saw there is a Nextcloud snap. Would you ever consider using it?

              Never.

              I knew you were going to say that.... Exactly my point. What would normally decide if you used the snap package or installed manually? I would assume use snaps for testing and then install the "normal" way for production.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @brandon220
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                @brandon220 said in What is the right way to install snap on Fedora:

                What snap applications would one normally run instead of installing the traditional way?

                The ones that say it is the "supported" method to install it.

                Also the RPM install had problems.

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                • brandon220B
                  brandon220
                  last edited by

                  Makes perfect sense.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    This error.. I jsut reinstalled it.

                    [jbusch@dt-jared ~]$ sudo dnf install onlyoffice-desktopeditors -y
                    Last metadata expiration check: 0:01:59 ago on Wed 09 Jan 2019 09:26:54 AM CST.
                    Dependencies resolved.
                    ==================================================================================================================================
                     Package                                   Arch                   Version                        Repository                  Size
                    ==================================================================================================================================
                    Installing:
                     onlyoffice-desktopeditors                 x86_64                 5.2.4-16                       onlyoffice                 207 M
                    Installing dependencies:
                     gtkglext-libs                             x86_64                 1.2.0-33.fc29                  fedora                     116 k
                     pangox-compat                             x86_64                 0.0.2-13.fc29                  fedora                      61 k
                    
                    Transaction Summary
                    ==================================================================================================================================
                    Install  3 Packages
                    
                    Total download size: 207 M
                    Installed size: 648 M
                    Downloading Packages:
                    (1/3): pangox-compat-0.0.2-13.fc29.x86_64.rpm                                                      49 kB/s |  61 kB     00:01    
                    (2/3): gtkglext-libs-1.2.0-33.fc29.x86_64.rpm                                                      90 kB/s | 116 kB     00:01    
                    (3/3): onlyoffice-desktopeditors.x86_64.rpm                                                       7.5 MB/s | 207 MB     00:27    
                    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    Total                                                                                             7.2 MB/s | 207 MB     00:28     
                    Running transaction check
                    Transaction check succeeded.
                    Running transaction test
                    Transaction test succeeded.
                    Running transaction
                      Preparing        :                                                                                                          1/1 
                      Installing       : pangox-compat-0.0.2-13.fc29.x86_64                                                                       1/3 
                      Running scriptlet: pangox-compat-0.0.2-13.fc29.x86_64                                                                       1/3 
                      Installing       : gtkglext-libs-1.2.0-33.fc29.x86_64                                                                       2/3 
                      Running scriptlet: gtkglext-libs-1.2.0-33.fc29.x86_64                                                                       2/3 
                      Running scriptlet: onlyoffice-desktopeditors-5.2.4-16.x86_64                                                                3/3 
                      Installing       : onlyoffice-desktopeditors-5.2.4-16.x86_64                                                                3/3 
                      Running scriptlet: onlyoffice-desktopeditors-5.2.4-16.x86_64                                                                3/3 
                      Verifying        : gtkglext-libs-1.2.0-33.fc29.x86_64                                                                       1/3 
                      Verifying        : pangox-compat-0.0.2-13.fc29.x86_64                                                                       2/3 
                      Verifying        : onlyoffice-desktopeditors-5.2.4-16.x86_64                                                                3/3 
                    
                    Installed:
                      onlyoffice-desktopeditors-5.2.4-16.x86_64      gtkglext-libs-1.2.0-33.fc29.x86_64      pangox-compat-0.0.2-13.fc29.x86_64     
                    
                    Complete!
                    
                    [jbusch@dt-jared ~]$ desktopeditors
                    ./DesktopEditors: /lib64/libcurl-gnutls.so.4: no version information available (required by /opt/onlyoffice/desktopeditors/converter/libkernel.so)
                    /opt/onlyoffice/desktopeditors/DesktopEditors: /lib64/libcurl-gnutls.so.4: no version information available (required by /opt/onlyoffice/desktopeditors/converter/libkernel.so)
                    /opt/onlyoffice/desktopeditors/converter/x2t: /lib64/libcurl-gnutls.so.4: no version information available (required by /opt/onlyoffice/desktopeditors/converter/libkernel.so)
                    /proc/self/exe: /lib64/libcurl-gnutls.so.4: no version information available (required by /opt/onlyoffice/desktopeditors/converter/libkernel.so)
                    
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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
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                      But now it launches. Previously, it wold not launch. So something since I last tried the RPM method changed.

                      The fonts in the RPM version look way better.
                      ffff5296-11b3-4c4b-b568-9daa2d9a5307-image.png

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @brandon220
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                        @brandon220 said in What is the right way to install snap on Fedora:

                        Makes perfect sense.

                        For reference: https://mangolassi.it/post/431462

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @brandon220
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                          @brandon220 said in What is the right way to install snap on Fedora:

                          What snap applications would one normally run instead of installing the traditional way? Are there worries about them being insecure? For instance - I saw there is a Nextcloud snap. Would you ever consider using it?

                          No, Snaps for server services of any complexity (like needing to configure a database or cache) is highly problematic. Snaps work best for desktop apps and similar things. The "needs" of the application are very different.

                          We DO use Snaps for Rocket.chat as no configuration is really needed.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch yeah, the fonts in the Snap are awful.

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                              manxam @scottalanmiller
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                              We DO use Snaps for Rocket.chat as no configuration is really needed.

                              The other issue with Snaps is that they often fall behind the main release stream. Rocket.Chat is a prime example of this. Current Snap is 0.72.3 and the rpm/deb release is at 0.73.2.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @manxam
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                                @manxam said in What is the right way to install snap on Fedora:

                                We DO use Snaps for Rocket.chat as no configuration is really needed.

                                The other issue with Snaps is that they often fall behind the main release stream. Rocket.Chat is a prime example of this. Current Snap is 0.72.3 and the rpm/deb release is at 0.73.2.

                                Well snaps are just containers, which contain just that application. So if the snap developer hasn't updated it for any reason you wouldn't have the most current release.

                                Same kind of issue exists with Chocolatey (on Windows) were the software developer will create an updated version. But the chocolatey repo isn't updated.

                                So either you wait or you upgrade and leave Chocolatey installation behind.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in What is the right way to install snap on Fedora:

                                  @manxam said in What is the right way to install snap on Fedora:

                                  We DO use Snaps for Rocket.chat as no configuration is really needed.

                                  The other issue with Snaps is that they often fall behind the main release stream. Rocket.Chat is a prime example of this. Current Snap is 0.72.3 and the rpm/deb release is at 0.73.2.

                                  Well snaps are just containers, which contain just that application. So if the snap developer hasn't updated it for any reason you wouldn't have the most current release.

                                  Same kind of issue exists with Chocolatey (on Windows) were the software developer will create an updated version. But the chocolatey repo isn't updated.

                                  So either you wait or you upgrade and leave Chocolatey installation behind.

                                  The issue is not unique to snap or chocolately or anything.

                                  The issue is with the developers. That is why I always aim for the targeted deployment method if there is one that matters.

                                  If the devs update the repo most, go that route. if they do snap, or docker or WTF ever, go that route.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by JaredBusch

                                    @JaredBusch said in What is the right way to install snap on Fedora:

                                    The issue is with the developers. That is why I always aim for the targeted deployment method if there is one that matters.

                                    For the record there is no one specified "preferred method" that I can see form the OnlyOffice website. Repo and Snap are treated equal.

                                    I tried repo first and it failed in November. So I tried Snap. It always had these SELinux issues, but I ignored it as I was only testing.

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                                    • DonahueD
                                      Donahue @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch will you be willing to write up a guide for getting open office working with NC, specifically behind nginx? I can try and fumble through it, but you make things look so easy.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @Donahue
                                        last edited by

                                        @Donahue said in What is the right way to install snap on Fedora:

                                        @JaredBusch will you be willing to write up a guide for getting open office working with NC, specifically behind nginx? I can try and fumble through it, but you make things look so easy.

                                        I've never set it up. I can try.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Donahue
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                                          @Donahue said in What is the right way to install snap on Fedora:

                                          @JaredBusch will you be willing to write up a guide for getting open office working with NC, specifically behind nginx? I can try and fumble through it, but you make things look so easy.

                                          @romo and I have that working. That's how ours works. Romo had to modify the Docker instance because the instance itself is misconfigured for doing this.

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