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    Thinking of starting a home minecraft server

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Donahue
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      @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

      @scottalanmiller said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

      @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

      The PC already has licensed windows 10, which is why I would consider hyper-v, but part of me wants to try out KVM and play around with it.

      Hyper-V is free. That it has a Windows 10 license gets you nothing. And if it is Windows 10 Home, you have to remove it to use Hyper-V, anyway.

      It's pro.

      So it exists, but still has no benefits. You get the same benefits from KVM here.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Donahue
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        @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

        @Dashrender said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

        Why would you care about the Windows 10 licenses? If you're going to run Hyper-V, you should run the completely unencumbered free version. Download it from the MS trial website - FYI, it's not a trial.

        only because I don't want to lose a valid windows 10 installation unless I do it on purpose.

        Understandable. but you don't lose it, hence why we are recommending KVM.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Donahue
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          @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

          The most it would do is probably share some storage inside the home LAN.

          Even if you have Windows already, wouldn't it be nicer to do that with Linux, too? This is a perfect place for Linux at home.

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          • DonahueD
            Donahue
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            If I blow away windows and install KVM, and then later decide that I want a windows 10 VM, won't it have to be licensed? Or will it somehow know that it was once licensed on that machine, even as a later VM? I dont think it would know, and would therefore need a new license.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Donahue
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              @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

              If I blow away windows and install KVM, and then later decide that I want a windows 10 VM, won't it have to be licensed? Or will it somehow know that it was once licensed on that machine, even as a later VM? I dont think it would know, and would therefore need a new license.

              Pull the key from BIOS. You can use it to activate the VM.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Donahue
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                @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                If I blow away windows and install KVM, and then later decide that I want a windows 10 VM, won't it have to be licensed?

                No, this is never the case. There is no situation where deleting Windows requires relicensing to put back on the same hardware.

                Or will it somehow know that it was once licensed on that machine, even as a later VM? I dont think it would know, and would therefore need a new license.

                Yes, it knows normally. Even if it doesn't know, that doesn't change the license requirements. Under no condition can you have a legit license now and lose it in this fashion.

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                • DonahueD
                  Donahue @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                  @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                  If I blow away windows and install KVM, and then later decide that I want a windows 10 VM, won't it have to be licensed? Or will it somehow know that it was once licensed on that machine, even as a later VM? I dont think it would know, and would therefore need a new license.

                  Pull the key from BIOS. You can use it to activate the VM.

                  I had no idea you could do that. Thats awesome.

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                    bnrstnr @Donahue
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                    @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                    @JaredBusch said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                    @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                    If I blow away windows and install KVM, and then later decide that I want a windows 10 VM, won't it have to be licensed? Or will it somehow know that it was once licensed on that machine, even as a later VM? I dont think it would know, and would therefore need a new license.

                    Pull the key from BIOS. You can use it to activate the VM.

                    I had no idea you could do that. Thats awesome.

                    choco install keyfinder

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @bnrstnr
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                      @bnrstnr said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                      @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                      @JaredBusch said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                      @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                      If I blow away windows and install KVM, and then later decide that I want a windows 10 VM, won't it have to be licensed? Or will it somehow know that it was once licensed on that machine, even as a later VM? I dont think it would know, and would therefore need a new license.

                      Pull the key from BIOS. You can use it to activate the VM.

                      I had no idea you could do that. Thats awesome.

                      choco install keyfinder

                      Does that work on BIOS keys now? I thought that only showed the "key" Windows reported. That is not the BIOS key.

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                        bnrstnr @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                        @bnrstnr said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                        @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                        @JaredBusch said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                        @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                        If I blow away windows and install KVM, and then later decide that I want a windows 10 VM, won't it have to be licensed? Or will it somehow know that it was once licensed on that machine, even as a later VM? I dont think it would know, and would therefore need a new license.

                        Pull the key from BIOS. You can use it to activate the VM.

                        I had no idea you could do that. Thats awesome.

                        choco install keyfinder

                        Does that work on BIOS keys now? I thought that only showed the "key" Windows reported. That is not the BIOS key.

                        I believe the key it shows will activate. I'm not 100% positive though.

                        I don't even have anything around that I can test this on right now either.

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco
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                          So the Win10 VM can't pull the key from BIOS itself in this scenario?

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @RojoLoco
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                            @RojoLoco said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                            So the Win10 VM can't pull the key from BIOS itself in this scenario?

                            No, because its BIOS is the virtual BIOS of whatever hypervisor he ends up using.

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                            • RojoLocoR
                              RojoLoco @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                              @RojoLoco said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                              So the Win10 VM can't pull the key from BIOS itself in this scenario?

                              No, because its BIOS is the virtual BIOS of whatever hypervisor he ends up using.

                              Ah, I see. Haven't tried to activate one like this yet.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
                                last edited by JaredBusch

                                Google result: https://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/125321-pull-windows-key-from-uefi-bios
                                powershell version worked for me.

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                                • DonahueD
                                  Donahue @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                                  Google result: https://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/125321-pull-windows-key-from-uefi-bios

                                  You sir, deserve 🍻

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    I'm assuming you already own the game, but for anyone who wants to play a game like Minecraft but one that is open source check out Minetest.

                                    FOSS and playing with friends/family is quick to do.

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                                    • DonahueD
                                      Donahue @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                                      I'm assuming you already own the game, but for anyone who wants to play a game like Minecraft but one that is open source check out Minetest.

                                      FOSS and playing with friends/family is quick to do.

                                      link?

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @Donahue
                                        last edited by

                                        @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                                        I'm assuming you already own the game, but for anyone who wants to play a game like Minecraft but one that is open source check out Minetest.

                                        FOSS and playing with friends/family is quick to do.

                                        link?

                                        Minetest.net

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @Donahue
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                                          @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                                          I've got a pair of laptops that we are going to be giving to my boys (8 and 7) soon. One reason is to start them working with a full computer. The other reason is so that we can all play minecraft together. So far, I have been playing on a PC and they have their fire tablets, but those are clunky. I am thinking of taking an old desktop that I have and turning it into a little home server running hyper-v or KVM. Then running a minecraft server or two in VM's. The PC already has licensed windows 10, which is why I would consider hyper-v, but part of me wants to try out KVM and play around with it.

                                          I have been keeping a free Minecraft server going the past year or two on my VPS. It ran extremely well 24/7 no lag with a bunch of players on it.

                                          It is stopped ATM because the VPS died a week or so ago and I just didn't have time to set it back up yet.

                                          I have the server and everything backed up so I can just restore the Minecraft server once I get Fedora installed again on it.

                                          I'll give you the link once I get it restored.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @Obsolesce
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                                            @Obsolesce said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                                            @Donahue said in Thinking of starting a home minecraft server:

                                            I've got a pair of laptops that we are going to be giving to my boys (8 and 7) soon. One reason is to start them working with a full computer. The other reason is so that we can all play minecraft together. So far, I have been playing on a PC and they have their fire tablets, but those are clunky. I am thinking of taking an old desktop that I have and turning it into a little home server running hyper-v or KVM. Then running a minecraft server or two in VM's. The PC already has licensed windows 10, which is why I would consider hyper-v, but part of me wants to try out KVM and play around with it.

                                            I have been keeping a free Minecraft server going the past year or two on my VPS. It ran extremely well 24/7 no lag with a bunch of players on it.

                                            It is stopped ATM because the VPS died a week or so ago and I just didn't have time to set it back up yet.

                                            I have the server and everything backed up so I can just restore the Minecraft server once I get Fedora installed again on it.

                                            I'll give you the link once I get it restored.

                                            I'm waiting for my VPS hosting company to add a Fedora 28 ISO so I can start there. Last time I loaded it, it was Fedora 26. I don't feel like starting there. After that, I should have it up soon after.

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