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    • DonahueD
      Donahue
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      one post wonder?

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        scottalanmiller @Donahue
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        @Donahue said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

        one post wonder?

        Exactly.

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        • pmonchoP
          pmoncho @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

          @Donahue said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

          one post wonder?

          Exactly.

          1PW's drive me absolutely insane. Between here (which has been realllllllly nice) and 🌶 , I wish their was a count at the top for how many times the original poster replied.

          Nothing worse than seen 5 pages of replies asking for further info to solve their problem when the 1PW abandons the post.

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          • DonahueD
            Donahue
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            I've seen other forums that required things like higher post counts before being able to start a new thread. I am not sure of that solves the problem or just moves it to somewhere else. I think I have also seen where new users must post to the "newbie" section before a moderator would unlock their access to post in the other sections, that way they didn't dilute the main content. I am not sure if that is a good idea or not, but it is something that is sometimes done.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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              @pmoncho said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

              @scottalanmiller said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

              @Donahue said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

              one post wonder?

              Exactly.

              1PW's drive me absolutely insane. Between here (which has been realllllllly nice) and 🌶 , I wish their was a count at the top for how many times the original poster replied.

              Nothing worse than seen 5 pages of replies asking for further info to solve their problem when the 1PW abandons the post.

              Its' super rare here, this is one of the very few. On 🌶 it's the norm, I swear. So common.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Donahue
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                @Donahue said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

                I've seen other forums that required things like higher post counts before being able to start a new thread. I am not sure of that solves the problem or just moves it to somewhere else. I think I have also seen where new users must post to the "newbie" section before a moderator would unlock their access to post in the other sections, that way they didn't dilute the main content. I am not sure if that is a good idea or not, but it is something that is sometimes done.

                The upside of allowing anyone to start a thread, is that at least we have good discussions from it.

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                • pmonchoP
                  pmoncho @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

                  @pmoncho said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

                  @Donahue said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

                  one post wonder?

                  Exactly.

                  1PW's drive me absolutely insane. Between here (which has been realllllllly nice) and 🌶 , I wish their was a count at the top for how many times the original poster replied.

                  Nothing worse than seen 5 pages of replies asking for further info to solve their problem when the 1PW abandons the post.

                  Its' super rare here, this is one of the very few. On 🌶 it's the norm, I swear. So common.

                  I agree and that is why I hang out here more than anywhere else. 🙂

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                    hari @JasGot
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                    @JasGOt Hi Thanks for the reply and your recommendations, sorry for the delayed response. Had to research more on 'our requirements' vs what 'we think we need' rather 'what we do need' As you were knew from the Post i am new to this.

                    About G Suite Sync for Microsoft Outlook 4.0.16.0 we have here.
                    Setting the mailbox size to 1GB and getting them to use Gmail for older emails. Than will raise it according depending on user needs. This has fix most Outlook Syncing from Gsuite issues here.

                    The below KB help to clearing identify what wont sync..

                    https://support.google.com/a/answer/6209363

                    This statement from the vendor was surprising 'We are strongly advice to use the web interface and not 3rd party apps to connect to our mail services.'

                    Just sharing on what i found and fix here. Thank again.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @hari
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                      @hari Hey, welcome back!

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @hari
                        last edited by

                        @hari said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

                        This statement from the vendor was surprising 'We are strongly advice to use the web interface and not 3rd party apps to connect to our mail services.'

                        Why is that surprising? Third party apps just create extra things to break. The web interface is the official one that they control and support.

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                        • pmonchoP
                          pmoncho @hari
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                          @hari said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

                          @JasGOt Hi Thanks for the reply and your recommendations, sorry for the delayed response. Had to research more on 'our requirements' vs what 'we think we need' rather 'what we do need' As you were knew from the Post i am new to this.

                          So where did you end up? What are the requirements you are trying to fill based on actual need?

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                            hari @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender lol sorry kind of spoke without researching on that point.

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                              hari @RojoLoco
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                              @RojoLoco yes i was busy researching and just sorting out the plan..

                              How about this..

                              Requirements
                              70 Computers usage (Outlook, Sharepoint, Legal web app, MS Office and internet browsing)
                              2 Network Printers
                              VM1 - Active Directory Domain Controller, DNS and DHCP
                              VM2 - SharePoint
                              VM3 - Web Host
                              VM4 - CDMS (Customer Database Management System)
                              (Maybe 2-3 VM for other stuff, yet to be determine)

                              Hardware:
                              Tower Server

                              Dell

                              PowerEdge T440 Tower Server
                              PowerEdge T430 Tower Server

                              HPE

                              ProLiant ML30 Gen9 Server
                              ProLiant ML110 Gen10 Server

                              On these VM's which Server OS will best suite?

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                                hari @pmoncho
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                                @pmoncho Hey

                                Requirements
                                70 Computers usage (Outlook, Sharepoint, Legal web app, MS Office and internet browsing)
                                2 Network Printers
                                VM1 - Active Directory Domain Controller, DNS and DHCP
                                VM2 - SharePoint
                                VM3 - Web Host
                                VM4 - CDMS (Customer Database Management System)
                                (Maybe 2-3 VM for other stuff, yet to be determine)

                                Hardware: (Still deciding on which tower to get..)
                                Tower Server

                                Dell

                                PowerEdge T440 Tower Server
                                PowerEdge T430 Tower Server

                                HPE

                                ProLiant ML30 Gen9 Server
                                ProLiant ML110 Gen10 Server

                                1. On these VM's which Server OS will best suite?

                                I am new to this server building, so have i missed anything here?

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                                • pmonchoP
                                  pmoncho @hari
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                                  @hari

                                  I would look at the T430 through www.xbyte.com. I believe Sean @xByteSean still hangs around here and can point you in a specific direction as you can explain your entire needs.

                                  As for Hard drives, RAM and CPU requirements, that is based on your knowledge of the requirements of the CDMS.

                                  AD/DNS/DHCP requirements are minimal (1vCPU with 2GB RAM and 60GB HD)

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @hari
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                                    @hari said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

                                    70 Computers usage (Outlook, Sharepoint, Legal web app, MS Office and internet browsing)

                                    Why is Outlook a requirement? Why is SharePoint a requirement?

                                    Are you still using Google Suite? If so, why not go all in on Google Suite and use Gmail and Google Drive? Two less pieces of software to manage. What I don't know is how well MS Office will utilize Google Drive vs say OneDrive (OneDrive for Business).

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @pmoncho
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                                      @pmoncho said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

                                      @hari

                                      I would look at the T430 through www.xbyte.com. I believe Sean @xByteSean still hangs around here and can point you in a specific direction as you can explain your entire needs.

                                      As for Hard drives, RAM and CPU requirements, that is based on your knowledge of the requirements of the CDMS.

                                      AD/DNS/DHCP requirements are minimal (1vCPU with 2GB RAM and 60GB HD)

                                      Exactly. Likely any of those four servers will do the job for you, assuming they'll hold the storage that meets your needs.
                                      You need to spell out the requirements for each VM, than add them together to see what you need for the host for those VMs.

                                      Don't forget backups - I don't see that listed.

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                                      • DonahueD
                                        Donahue @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

                                        @pmoncho said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

                                        @hari

                                        I would look at the T430 through www.xbyte.com. I believe Sean @xByteSean still hangs around here and can point you in a specific direction as you can explain your entire needs.

                                        As for Hard drives, RAM and CPU requirements, that is based on your knowledge of the requirements of the CDMS.

                                        AD/DNS/DHCP requirements are minimal (1vCPU with 2GB RAM and 60GB HD)

                                        Exactly. Likely any of those four servers will do the job for you, assuming they'll hold the storage that meets your needs.
                                        You need to spell out the requirements for each VM, than add them together to see what you need for the host for those VMs.

                                        Don't forget backups - I don't see that listed.

                                        I agree with Dashrender, backups should be like priority number 1 beyond actually deploying the hardware. I wouldn't bother trying to figure out all the other steps like how many VM's and what services you need, without also thinking about how you will back them up. You might find that you have a choice between two different services that provide the same functionality, but one fits your backup model better. Do not neglect backups, the moment you need them, they are the most important thing to the business.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @hari
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                                          @hari said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

                                          On these VM's which Server OS will best suite?

                                          Windows. Given that it's the only option for some of those workloads and the only one you said you'd allow, what is the purpose of the question? There's only one possible answer. You've already selected the answer and worked back to the workloads, like Sharepoint. So I'm unclear what you are asking.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

                                            @hari said in Server Setup for Legal Firm:

                                            On these VM's which Server OS will best suite?

                                            Windows. Given that it's the only option for some of those workloads and the only one you said you'd allow, what is the purpose of the question? There's only one possible answer. You've already selected the answer and worked back to the workloads, like Sharepoint. So I'm unclear what you are asking.

                                            And since you're locked into Windows why wouldn't you go with Windows Server 2019? It's the most current - you shouldn't use old version unless you have a very specific need that can't be worked around.

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