What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech
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@fiyafly On the fence about Jordan Peterson, but I know that book is quite popular
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@wirestyle22 Essentially anything you may have heard about him is probably wrong. If you want, message me and I can give you some more info on him. I'd put it here, but I lost count of how many things he's said that have been skewed and misconstrued. lol
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@fiyafly I've watched a lot of his videos and debates. I'm not going off of second hand information. If I had to choose someone for a conservative debate it would be Ben Shapiro probably. He seems to stick mostly to the facts as he sees it, whether or not I agree with him is something else though. I try to familiarize myself with both sides of the argument and don't align myself with any particular party.
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@wirestyle22 sorry about that. I have just gotten overly used to having to defend him and others at the mere mention of their names. Peterson is a favorite of mine as he delves into the phycological and philosophical points that are made.
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We watched John Carter a few weeks back. It's a movie that I really like.
My daughter filled me in on Edgar Rice Burroughs, the author of the books, and some of the story line.
So, I bought the books on Kindle and am reading via my Surface 3.
I just finished book 3 last night.
ERB's style takes a bit getting used to but I really enjoy it. It's science fiction before Heinlein and Asimov took it mainstream IMO.
I make a point of reading for at least half an hour to an hour to get immersed in what I'm reading.
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@fiyafly I've started JBP's 12 Rules. The intro was so in-depth that I'm still ruminating on it.
He's an accomplished professional and his work shows it.
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Drove by this going to/from Vegas. Finally looked in to it. Pretty interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanpah_Solar_Power_Facility -
@obsolesce said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
Drove by this going to/from Vegas. Finally looked in to it. Pretty interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanpah_Solar_Power_FacilityWoah … $2.2B cost.
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@phlipelder said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
Drove by this going to/from Vegas. Finally looked in to it. Pretty interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanpah_Solar_Power_FacilityWoah … $2.2B cost.
Ya insane, and it's not even producing close to the output they planned for.
Maybe dust and stuff... Both times we drove past, it seemed like it was very hazy, I'm guessing dust and sand in the air. It was very windy.
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The difference between million and billion if put into seconds is 11.5 days VS almost 32 years.
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@obsolesce said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@phlipelder said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
Drove by this going to/from Vegas. Finally looked in to it. Pretty interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanpah_Solar_Power_FacilityWoah … $2.2B cost.
Ya insane, and it's not even producing close to the output they planned for.
Maybe dust and stuff... Both times we drove past, it seemed like it was very hazy, I'm guessing dust and sand in the air. It was very windy.
I've asked both inside the industry and government for the numbers for the windmill farms that are being put up around the province. No one will come clean about install and maintenance costs. :S
I did a rough calculation based on the Wikipedia article that ~640GW/h per year is $12M and ~336GWh is $6M in annual revenue based on the cited $200/MWh per year number? So, $18M/Year on a $2.2B "investment" am I on or off with the numbers?
Then, there's the stats that blew me away on the volume of natural gas the plant consumes to heat things up prior to producing solar energy.
One has to wonder if there was ever a plan for the plant to be profitable.
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@phlipelder said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@phlipelder said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
Drove by this going to/from Vegas. Finally looked in to it. Pretty interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanpah_Solar_Power_FacilityWoah … $2.2B cost.
Ya insane, and it's not even producing close to the output they planned for.
Maybe dust and stuff... Both times we drove past, it seemed like it was very hazy, I'm guessing dust and sand in the air. It was very windy.
I've asked both inside the industry and government for the numbers for the windmill farms that are being put up around the province. No one will come clean about install and maintenance costs. :S
I did a rough calculation based on the Wikipedia article that ~640GW/h per year is $12M and ~336GWh is $6M in annual revenue based on the cited $200/MWh per year number? So, $18M/Year on a $2.2B "investment" am I on or off with the numbers?
Then, there's the stats that blew me away on the volume of natural gas the plant consumes to heat things up prior to producing solar energy.
One has to wonder if there was ever a plan for the plant to be profitable.
If you want to hear some interesting facts about clean energy, really look into nuclear. It is, hands down, the cleanest and most efficient energy we have today. Those images and such you see of clouds of smoke coming out of them? That's steam.
As far as I can tell, there are only two things keeping us from using nuclear more. Waste disposal, and people's fear of it. -
@fiyafly said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@phlipelder said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@phlipelder said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
Drove by this going to/from Vegas. Finally looked in to it. Pretty interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanpah_Solar_Power_FacilityWoah … $2.2B cost.
Ya insane, and it's not even producing close to the output they planned for.
Maybe dust and stuff... Both times we drove past, it seemed like it was very hazy, I'm guessing dust and sand in the air. It was very windy.
I've asked both inside the industry and government for the numbers for the windmill farms that are being put up around the province. No one will come clean about install and maintenance costs. :S
I did a rough calculation based on the Wikipedia article that ~640GW/h per year is $12M and ~336GWh is $6M in annual revenue based on the cited $200/MWh per year number? So, $18M/Year on a $2.2B "investment" am I on or off with the numbers?
Then, there's the stats that blew me away on the volume of natural gas the plant consumes to heat things up prior to producing solar energy.
One has to wonder if there was ever a plan for the plant to be profitable.
If you want to hear some interesting facts about clean energy, really look into nuclear. It is, hands down, the cleanest and most efficient energy we have today. Those images and such you see of clouds of smoke coming out of them? That's steam.
As far as I can tell, there are only two things keeping us from using nuclear more. Waste disposal, and people's fear of it.The costs of nuclear are not as low as people try to paint it.
Waste disposal is a huge cost and when added in properly to the calculations does make it not as affordable.
The other large cost is disaster cleanup. A single plant failure can easily have a cleanup that runs into decades and cost trillions.
Nuclear Fusion will be a big game changer as it is cleaner and safer compared to Fission. But nothing is cost effective with Fusion yet.
Lockhead Martin has been getting closer and even had a public patent submitted back in March.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2018/08/01/will-lockheed-martin-change-the-world-with-its-new-fusion-reactor/#2a434da4c49fObviously, if they are far enough for a patent to get submitted and made public, they are fairly confident in what they are doing.
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@fiyafly said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
Waste disposal, and people's fear of it.
Same case for oil/coal/gas electricity generation... it's all good until the waste (in this case it's the smoke from burning it).
A part of me would rather have the "cleaned" smoke from fossil fuel than the crap from nuclear waste.
As Jared said, it's best to look forward to Fusion. Can't beat that in any aspect except difficulty.
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@fiyafly said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@phlipelder said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@phlipelder said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
Drove by this going to/from Vegas. Finally looked in to it. Pretty interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanpah_Solar_Power_FacilityWoah … $2.2B cost.
Ya insane, and it's not even producing close to the output they planned for.
Maybe dust and stuff... Both times we drove past, it seemed like it was very hazy, I'm guessing dust and sand in the air. It was very windy.
I've asked both inside the industry and government for the numbers for the windmill farms that are being put up around the province. No one will come clean about install and maintenance costs. :S
I did a rough calculation based on the Wikipedia article that ~640GW/h per year is $12M and ~336GWh is $6M in annual revenue based on the cited $200/MWh per year number? So, $18M/Year on a $2.2B "investment" am I on or off with the numbers?
Then, there's the stats that blew me away on the volume of natural gas the plant consumes to heat things up prior to producing solar energy.
One has to wonder if there was ever a plan for the plant to be profitable.
If you want to hear some interesting facts about clean energy, really look into nuclear. It is, hands down, the cleanest and most efficient energy we have today. Those images and such you see of clouds of smoke coming out of them? That's steam.
As far as I can tell, there are only two things keeping us from using nuclear more. Waste disposal, and people's fear of it.The CanDu Heavy Water Reactor is probably one of the most energy efficient setups out there. Plus, it's a lot safer than the tech being used in the US and elsewhere in the world. It's another example, like the Avro Arrow, of Canada dropping the ball on marketing an awesome product. It's also a lot less expensive dollar and environment wise than the mainstream tech being used in the US today.
Folks tout Hydro as the best but seem to forget that the environmental impacts can be just as extreme depending on the habitats and ecosystems upstream from the dam.
There's a lot of tinfoil hattage around fusion, but the fusion donuts seem to be one of the best ways to move forward if the brains behind the research can figure out how to make it work consistently.
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@jaredbusch said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@fiyafly said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@phlipelder said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@phlipelder said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
Drove by this going to/from Vegas. Finally looked in to it. Pretty interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanpah_Solar_Power_FacilityWoah … $2.2B cost.
Ya insane, and it's not even producing close to the output they planned for.
Maybe dust and stuff... Both times we drove past, it seemed like it was very hazy, I'm guessing dust and sand in the air. It was very windy.
I've asked both inside the industry and government for the numbers for the windmill farms that are being put up around the province. No one will come clean about install and maintenance costs. :S
I did a rough calculation based on the Wikipedia article that ~640GW/h per year is $12M and ~336GWh is $6M in annual revenue based on the cited $200/MWh per year number? So, $18M/Year on a $2.2B "investment" am I on or off with the numbers?
Then, there's the stats that blew me away on the volume of natural gas the plant consumes to heat things up prior to producing solar energy.
One has to wonder if there was ever a plan for the plant to be profitable.
If you want to hear some interesting facts about clean energy, really look into nuclear. It is, hands down, the cleanest and most efficient energy we have today. Those images and such you see of clouds of smoke coming out of them? That's steam.
As far as I can tell, there are only two things keeping us from using nuclear more. Waste disposal, and people's fear of it.The costs of nuclear are not as low as people try to paint it.
Waste disposal is a huge cost and when added in properly to the calculations does make it not as affordable.
The other large cost is disaster cleanup. A single plant failure can easily have a cleanup that runs into decades and cost trillions.
Nuclear Fusion will be a big game changer as it is cleaner and safer compared to Fission. But nothing is cost effective with Fusion yet.
Lockhead Martin has been getting closer and even had a public patent submitted back in March.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2018/08/01/will-lockheed-martin-change-the-world-with-its-new-fusion-reactor/#2a434da4c49fObviously, if they are far enough for a patent to get submitted and made public, they are fairly confident in what they are doing.
Just saw this.
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@jaredbusch said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
The other large cost is disaster cleanup. A single plant failure can easily have a cleanup that runs into decades and cost trillions.
This is the key. Many of the biggest nuclear nations like the US, Russia, and Japan have all had to go through this already. It's the primary component to the cost of running nuclear, followed by disposal. I've lived through my own town being irradiated by a failed disposal process (meter deep nuclear ash right in my high school's driveway!)
These costs are generally ignored to push nuclear agendas. Nuclear isn't all bad, but it is vastly more costly than people generally admit. Because it's easy to use risk costs as something you can ignore. But they are the primary cost of operations over time.
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@phlipelder said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@phlipelder said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@obsolesce said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
Drove by this going to/from Vegas. Finally looked in to it. Pretty interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanpah_Solar_Power_FacilityWoah … $2.2B cost.
Ya insane, and it's not even producing close to the output they planned for.
Maybe dust and stuff... Both times we drove past, it seemed like it was very hazy, I'm guessing dust and sand in the air. It was very windy.
I've asked both inside the industry and government for the numbers for the windmill farms that are being put up around the province. No one will come clean about install and maintenance costs. :S
I did a rough calculation based on the Wikipedia article that ~640GW/h per year is $12M and ~336GWh is $6M in annual revenue based on the cited $200/MWh per year number? So, $18M/Year on a $2.2B "investment" am I on or off with the numbers?
Then, there's the stats that blew me away on the volume of natural gas the plant consumes to heat things up prior to producing solar energy.
One has to wonder if there was ever a plan for the plant to be profitable.
Interestingly I just heard a presentation from our regional power co-op on how they handle demand and where clean energy factors into it. They were pushing pretty hard into clean energy initiatives (one of the municipalities they serve has a requirement of them being 100% renewable by 2030) until they started comparing their existing clean generation capabilities and the storage needed to keep the load normalized to the demand curve. They would need thousands of batteries that cost $1.5 million each and have an effective lifespan of 6-15 years. Battery storage and disposal would make more hazardous waste than most forms of electrical generation.
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@kelly yeah, I am wondering about the lifespan of the batteries from Tesla going in all over the place.
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@jaredbusch said in What Are You Currently Reading Outside of Tech:
@kelly yeah, I am wondering about the lifespan of the batteries from Tesla going in all over the place.
Electric cars was another part of the discussion. They're trying to figure out how to meet the potential increased demand without actually increasing their fossil fuel use and obviating any emissions gained by the use of the cars. It is a complex problem that has many simplistic answers.
