Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740

[travisdh1]

@scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@pete-s said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

I don't think any server CPUs have integrated graphics.

Xeon E3-1200 series with 5 at the end have integrated graphics, for instance E3-1285V6.

Wow, really? That's so weird.

The "new" trend is to have GPUs do some of the work that CPUs normally handle. Things that require massively parallel operations, like video encoding. So we have moved from a single monolithic processor to specialized processors, and now everything is moving back to a single monolithic processor.

AMD began the trend when they moved the memory controller on-die and then on-chip. Now we're seeing GPUs added on-die to CPUs not to be used as a graphics processor, but as purely compute.

[scottalanmiller]

@travisdh1 said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@pete-s said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

I don't think any server CPUs have integrated graphics.

Xeon E3-1200 series with 5 at the end have integrated graphics, for instance E3-1285V6.

Wow, really? That's so weird.

The "new" trend is to have GPUs do some of the work that CPUs normally handle. Things that require massively parallel operations, like video encoding. So we have moved from a single monolithic processor to specialized processors, and now everything is moving back to a single monolithic processor.

AMD began the trend when they moved the memory controller on-die and then on-chip. Now we're seeing GPUs added on-die to CPUs not to be used as a graphics processor, but as purely compute.

Not on servers, though.

[travisdh1]

@scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@travisdh1 said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@pete-s said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

I don't think any server CPUs have integrated graphics.

Xeon E3-1200 series with 5 at the end have integrated graphics, for instance E3-1285V6.

Wow, really? That's so weird.

The "new" trend is to have GPUs do some of the work that CPUs normally handle. Things that require massively parallel operations, like video encoding. So we have moved from a single monolithic processor to specialized processors, and now everything is moving back to a single monolithic processor.

AMD began the trend when they moved the memory controller on-die and then on-chip. Now we're seeing GPUs added on-die to CPUs not to be used as a graphics processor, but as purely compute.

Not on servers, though.

Seriously? Do you not remember me talking about IRIX? SGI had entire series' of graphics servers. They even had this neat demo program where you could look at satellite imagery of a globe. Scroll around and zoom in and out. Even had some good close-in views that NASA had taken and so was publicly available from when NASA was using the SR-71s. Then SGI declared bankruptcy, Google grabbed their HQ, and a few years latter, hey look, Google came out with Google Earth.

The idea lives today, in a form that makes us all go FFS, in the places that do CAD/CAM via RDP.

I almost forgot about the GPU as compute, which is a big thing in high-performance compute.

I'll grant that servers with GPU are the exception, and for good reason. They'll always be around tho, especially as more algorithms are able to take advantage of massively parallel architecture.

[scottalanmiller]

@travisdh1 said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@travisdh1 said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@pete-s said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

I don't think any server CPUs have integrated graphics.

Xeon E3-1200 series with 5 at the end have integrated graphics, for instance E3-1285V6.

Wow, really? That's so weird.

The "new" trend is to have GPUs do some of the work that CPUs normally handle. Things that require massively parallel operations, like video encoding. So we have moved from a single monolithic processor to specialized processors, and now everything is moving back to a single monolithic processor.

AMD began the trend when they moved the memory controller on-die and then on-chip. Now we're seeing GPUs added on-die to CPUs not to be used as a graphics processor, but as purely compute.

Not on servers, though.

Seriously? Do you not remember me talking about IRIX? SGI had entire series' of graphics servers. They even had this neat demo program where you could look at satellite imagery of a globe. Scroll around and zoom in and out. Even had some good close-in views that NASA had taken and so was publicly available from when NASA was using the SR-71s. Then SGI declared bankruptcy, Google grabbed their HQ, and a few years latter, hey look, Google came out with Google Earth.

The idea lives today, in a form that makes us all go FFS, in the places that do CAD/CAM via RDP.

I almost forgot about the GPU as compute, which is a big thing in high-performance compute.

I'll grant that servers with GPU are the exception, and for good reason. They'll always be around tho, especially as more algorithms are able to take advantage of massively parallel architecture.

But it wasn't embedded in teh CPUs.

[Francesco Provino]

Same problem with Fedora 28 on Dell T330. Fallback to CentOS, everything works.

[scottalanmiller]

@francesco-provino said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

Same problem with Fedora 28 on Dell T330. Fallback to CentOS, everything works.

Fedora 28 worked fine. No issues once I knew to use the alternative installer option.

[travisdh1]

@scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@francesco-provino said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

Same problem with Fedora 28 on Dell T330. Fallback to CentOS, everything works.

Fedora 28 worked fine. No issues once I knew to use the alternative installer option.

I feel kinda sad that the text only installer is completely gone now. It was so much faster.... of course nothing is as fast as a Kickstart install.

[scottalanmiller]

@travisdh1 said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@francesco-provino said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

Same problem with Fedora 28 on Dell T330. Fallback to CentOS, everything works.

Fedora 28 worked fine. No issues once I knew to use the alternative installer option.

I feel kinda sad that the text only installer is completely gone now. It was so much faster.... of course nothing is as fast as a Kickstart install.

Yeah, I agree. I preferred that.

[Romo]

@scottalanmiller What was the alternative installer options, basic graphics mode?

inst.xdriver=vesa or inst.text

[scottalanmiller]

@romo said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

@scottalanmiller What was the alternative installer options, basic graphics mode?

inst.xdriver=vesa or inst.text

Just choose "Basic Graphic Installer"

[Romo]

@scottalanmiller Lol well I missed that, but I did get into text mode.

[Romo]

The documentation says text mode doesn't allow LVM setup

Docs

But the installer does allow the option now so that probably means it they have been working on it

[scottalanmiller]

Lame