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    • black3dynamiteB
      black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
      last edited by black3dynamite

      @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

      @black3dynamite said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

      You really should be using the latest version of Ubuntu especially for driver support.

      And just in general. Never run old stuff unless there is a very specific need. It's great that Ubuntu does such a good job of supporting their old releases, but for some reason people use that as an excuse to run Ubuntu poorly in this way all of the time. It's so bad, it's one of the reasons I don't like Ubuntu is because their community has such bad standards and acceptable practices. You basically just assume someone running Ubuntu is going to always do things like this that you'd never accept with a different OS like openSuse, or Fedora.

      There's not even an option when it comes to Fedora. openSuse has an LTS like version too.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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        @black3dynamite said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

        @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

        @black3dynamite said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

        You really should be using the latest version of Ubuntu especially for driver support.

        And just in general. Never run old stuff unless there is a very specific need. It's great that Ubuntu does such a good job of supporting their old releases, but for some reason people use that as an excuse to run Ubuntu poorly in this way all of the time. It's so bad, it's one of the reasons I don't like Ubuntu is because their community has such bad standards and acceptable practices. You basically just assume someone running Ubuntu is going to always do things like this that you'd never accept with a different OS like openSuse, or Fedora.

        There's not even an option when it comes to Fedora. openSuse has an LTS like version too.

        Yes, openSuse has Leap. But the culture of the community is not like Ubuntu and people would question why you were using it when not needed. With Ubuntu, doing it "badly" is just assumed to be the whole idea of being part of the ecosystem.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          Its' awful, but Ubuntu actually makes a solid product. But their community and social system is so bad.

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          • LakshmanaL
            Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller Whether Opensuse helps?I called the Epson team their answer they didn't know about the driver itself so will Opensuse helps in any way?

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite @Lakshmana
              last edited by

              @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

              @scottalanmiller Whether Opensuse helps?I called the Epson team their answer they didn't know about the driver itself so will Opensuse helps in any way?

              Have you actually tried Ubuntu 17.10 or 18.04 to see if it works?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                last edited by

                @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                @scottalanmiller Whether Opensuse helps?I called the Epson team their answer they didn't know about the driver itself so will Opensuse helps in any way?

                Why are you leaping from OS to OS without even trying to properly use the one that you are on? No OS is going to work well if not maintained properly. Start with what we've said from the beginning for getting random and weird. Yes, at some point, switching OSes is an option, but don't do it before you try the one you are on.

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                • LakshmanaL
                  Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                  @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                  @scottalanmiller Whether Opensuse helps?I called the Epson team their answer they didn't know about the driver itself so will Opensuse helps in any way?

                  Why are you leaping from OS to OS without even trying to properly use the one that you are on? No OS is going to work well if not maintained properly. Start with what we've said from the beginning for getting random and weird. Yes, at some point, switching OSes is an option, but don't do it before you try the one you are on.

                  @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                  @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                  @scottalanmiller Whether Opensuse helps?I called the Epson team their answer they didn't know about the driver itself so will Opensuse helps in any way?

                  Why are you leaping from OS to OS without even trying to properly use the one that you are on? No OS is going to work well if not maintained properly. Start with what we've said from the beginning for getting random and weird. Yes, at some point, switching OSes is an option, but don't do it before you try the one you are on.

                  As checked where scanner was working fine in Windows but in Ubuntu have issue.So only asking for different Linux OS!

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                  • LakshmanaL
                    Lakshmana @black3dynamite
                    last edited by

                    @black3dynamite said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                    @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                    @scottalanmiller Whether Opensuse helps?I called the Epson team their answer they didn't know about the driver itself so will Opensuse helps in any way?

                    Have you actually tried Ubuntu 17.10 or 18.04 to see if it works?

                    No I didn't tried that

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                      last edited by

                      @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                      @black3dynamite said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                      @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                      @scottalanmiller Whether Opensuse helps?I called the Epson team their answer they didn't know about the driver itself so will Opensuse helps in any way?

                      Have you actually tried Ubuntu 17.10 or 18.04 to see if it works?

                      No I didn't tried that

                      Why not? That's what you need to do right now. Don't ask any more questions until you've tried the basics and seen if they work.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                        last edited by

                        @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                        As checked where scanner was working fine in Windows but in Ubuntu have issue.So only asking for different Linux OS!

                        You don't know this yet. You've not used a current version of Ubuntu yet or used Ubuntu properly. This makes no sense to ask about other OSes when you've not tested the one you are on yet. If you treat Windows, openSuse, Fedora, etc. the same way, we wouldn't know if they worked either.

                        It's like getting in a car and not figuring out how to turn the key to start the car. Then when we tell you to turn the key, you ask if trying a different car might help. Maybe, because we don't know if the car works or not. All we know is that you've not turned the key and in another car, you likely won't turn the key either.

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                        • LakshmanaL
                          Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                          @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                          @black3dynamite said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                          @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                          @scottalanmiller Whether Opensuse helps?I called the Epson team their answer they didn't know about the driver itself so will Opensuse helps in any way?

                          Have you actually tried Ubuntu 17.10 or 18.04 to see if it works?

                          No I didn't tried that

                          Why not? That's what you need to do right now. Don't ask any more questions until you've tried the basics and seen if they work.

                          I have updated the Updated the Ubuntu not Upgraded!

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
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                            @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                            @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                            @black3dynamite said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                            @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                            @scottalanmiller Whether Opensuse helps?I called the Epson team their answer they didn't know about the driver itself so will Opensuse helps in any way?

                            Have you actually tried Ubuntu 17.10 or 18.04 to see if it works?

                            No I didn't tried that

                            Why not? That's what you need to do right now. Don't ask any more questions until you've tried the basics and seen if they work.

                            I have updated the Updated the Ubuntu not Upgraded!

                            You have not UPDATED to the current version. Use whatever term you want, but you are TWO YEARS out of date. Update, upgrade, whatever to CURRENT.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              We don't know if getting your Ubuntu properly updated will make a difference, but it's insane to try anything else until you've done that.

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                              • LakshmanaL
                                Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                We don't know if getting your Ubuntu properly updated will make a difference, but it's insane to try anything else until you've done that.

                                Ok No Tension No more questions in this thread

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                                  last edited by

                                  @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                  We don't know if getting your Ubuntu properly updated will make a difference, but it's insane to try anything else until you've done that.

                                  Ok No Tension No more questions in this thread

                                  YOu can ask more questions, but you need to do the first thing that we said to do first. You are not doing the most basic troubleshooting steps. But you keep asking other questions, instead of moving forward with seeing what will fix it.

                                  Here's the big question: why are you avoiding upgrading Ubuntu to the current version?

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                                  • LakshmanaL
                                    Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                    @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                    We don't know if getting your Ubuntu properly updated will make a difference, but it's insane to try anything else until you've done that.

                                    Ok No Tension No more questions in this thread

                                    YOu can ask more questions, but you need to do the first thing that we said to do first. You are not doing the most basic troubleshooting steps. But you keep asking other questions, instead of moving forward with seeing what will fix it.

                                    Here's the big question: why are you avoiding upgrading Ubuntu to the current version?

                                    Since the upgrade is not LTS some bugs may be there so only not Upgraded

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                                    • dbeatoD
                                      dbeato @Lakshmana
                                      last edited by

                                      @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                      @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                      We don't know if getting your Ubuntu properly updated will make a difference, but it's insane to try anything else until you've done that.

                                      Ok No Tension No more questions in this thread

                                      YOu can ask more questions, but you need to do the first thing that we said to do first. You are not doing the most basic troubleshooting steps. But you keep asking other questions, instead of moving forward with seeing what will fix it.

                                      Here's the big question: why are you avoiding upgrading Ubuntu to the current version?

                                      Since the upgrade is not LTS some bugs may be there so only not Upgraded

                                      That is the only way to fix issues, you got to check the bugs. You will be surprised the things we need to troubleshoot everyday to get up to date.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                                        last edited by

                                        @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                        @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                        We don't know if getting your Ubuntu properly updated will make a difference, but it's insane to try anything else until you've done that.

                                        Ok No Tension No more questions in this thread

                                        YOu can ask more questions, but you need to do the first thing that we said to do first. You are not doing the most basic troubleshooting steps. But you keep asking other questions, instead of moving forward with seeing what will fix it.

                                        Here's the big question: why are you avoiding upgrading Ubuntu to the current version?

                                        Since the upgrade is not LTS some bugs may be there so only not Upgraded

                                        That makes no sense. LTS is the buggier version, it's just "not updated." LTS is a bad, bad thing. You never use LTS if you want to avoid bugs, you use it when you don't care about updates for some bad reason, like you have buggy software that you can't stop using.

                                        Also, you are okay with switching to unsupported totally hobby class OSes like PC Linux OS, but not okay with going to the fully supported, least buggy version of Ubuntu?

                                        This is why we are confused. One moment you refuse to avoid bugs and be stable, the next you are willing to do things totally unstable. Your logic isn't consistent. And when you give a reason, it's backwards.

                                        Bottom line, you dont' use LTS. Using LTS is just bad. You should never choose it, you only use LTS when you are trapped and have no choice. No one should ever want an LTS release. LTS doesn't bring benefits, and the reasons you get stuck on LTS releases is bad and should be avoided whenever possible.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @dbeato
                                          last edited by

                                          @dbeato said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                          @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                          @lakshmana said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Ubuntu with Epson L380:

                                          We don't know if getting your Ubuntu properly updated will make a difference, but it's insane to try anything else until you've done that.

                                          Ok No Tension No more questions in this thread

                                          YOu can ask more questions, but you need to do the first thing that we said to do first. You are not doing the most basic troubleshooting steps. But you keep asking other questions, instead of moving forward with seeing what will fix it.

                                          Here's the big question: why are you avoiding upgrading Ubuntu to the current version?

                                          Since the upgrade is not LTS some bugs may be there so only not Upgraded

                                          That is the only way to fix issues, you got to check the bugs. You will be surprised the things we need to troubleshoot everyday to get up to date.

                                          And for all we know, the scanner doesn't work because of a bug in the LTS release that was fixed with the two years of patching and updates that have come since them. Ubuntu is a lot more mature now than it was two years ago.

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                                          • black3dynamiteB
                                            black3dynamite
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                                            If that device was released last year. You could definitely run into issues with using 16.04.

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