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    • momurdaM
      momurda
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      I have done this once before, that is the doc i used, plus some google.

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      • anthonyhA
        anthonyh
        last edited by anthonyh

        Hmm, I'm not sure how to interpret the output...

        [root@vmhost10 ~]# vhd-util scan -f -m "VHD-*" -l VG_XenStorage-8b007a92-c815-6d9a-d539-125db0c4b016 -p                                
        vhd=VHD-c52a7680-b3fa-4ffd-8e73-a472067eb710 capacity=1099511627776 size=92312436736 hidden=1 parent=none                              
           vhd=VHD-00c565b0-ab40-4e6d-886e-41c51f62992a capacity=1099511627776 size=1100304351232 hidden=1 parent=VHD-c52a7680-b3fa-4ffd-8e73-a472067eb710
              vhd=VHD-1ab9f17f-eefa-4e62-9455-3e73623d1453 capacity=1099511627776 size=29364322304 hidden=1 parent=VHD-00c565b0-ab40-4e6d-886e-41c51f62992a
                 vhd=VHD-586e7cc3-3fbc-4aa1-89bc-6974454aee7d capacity=1099511627776 size=1101667500032 hidden=0 parent=VHD-1ab9f17f-eefa-4e62-9455-3e73623d1453
        vhd=VHD-1be106fb-8d7a-438a-98df-23438fc87f75 capacity=21474836480 size=21525168128 hidden=0 parent=none                                
        [root@vmhost10 ~]#
        
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        • anthonyhA
          anthonyh
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          I suspect those hidden guys are what I want to get rid of...

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          • momurdaM
            momurda @anthonyh
            last edited by

            @anthonyh Yea looks like you have 3 hidden snapshots of the mail db.

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            • anthonyhA
              anthonyh
              last edited by anthonyh

              From what I'm reading here, I either need to grow the SR or do an offline coalesce: https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX201296

              SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_44 insufficient space:

              The process of taking snapshots requires additional overhead on your SR. So you need sufficient room to perform the operation. For a running VM with a single snapshot to get coalesce you need twice the space in case of LVM SR’s (Active VDI + Single Snapshotting VDI). If we are in short of space in the SR, we get the following error.

              Either do an offline coalesce or increase the SR size to accommodate online coalescing.

              I could grow the SR, but I don't want to throw disk space at it for the sake of more disk space. Perhaps I'll need to plan some downtime to do an offline coalesce.

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              • anthonyhA
                anthonyh
                last edited by

                Well...

                I know XenServer supports growing SRs, but does it support shrinking SRs?

                If so, I can grow the SR to 4 TB, perform the online coalesce, then shrink the SR back to 2 TB.

                Thoughts?

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                • momurdaM
                  momurda
                  last edited by

                  You can also move storage to another SR to get rid of these.
                  Or Export/Import the vm.

                  You can also try a
                  xe sr-scan uuid=uuid of SR
                  which is supposed to force a coalesce.

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                  • momurdaM
                    momurda @anthonyh
                    last edited by

                    @anthonyh No shrinking of SRs.
                    Are there other vm on the SR you could move?

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                    • anthonyhA
                      anthonyh @momurda
                      last edited by

                      @momurda said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                      @anthonyh No shrinking of SRs.
                      Are there other vm on the SR you could move?

                      Nope, the SR is dedicated to Zimbra. I suppose I could create a new 2TB SR for Zimbra and move the disks, then delete the old SR when it's done. Though moving a 1TB VHD of this importance makes me nervous, haha.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @anthonyh
                        last edited by DustinB3403

                        @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                        From what I'm reading here, I either need to grow the SR or do an offline coalesce: https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX201296

                        SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_44 insufficient space:

                        The process of taking snapshots requires additional overhead on your SR. So you need sufficient room to perform the operation. For a running VM with a single snapshot to get coalesce you need twice the space in case of LVM SR’s (Active VDI + Single Snapshotting VDI). If we are in short of space in the SR, we get the following error.

                        Either do an offline coalesce or increase the SR size to accommodate online coalescing.

                        I could grow the SR, but I don't want to throw disk space at it for the sake of more disk space. Perhaps I'll need to plan some downtime to do an offline coalesce.

                        Offline coalesce is the better option

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          The coalesce job in my experience usually doesn't take too long, but it's purely based on your host Sr performance.

                          And while you can kick it off manually once offline, you would still have no status.

                          Do you have XO? I believe it'll show you unhealthy SRs.

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                          • anthonyhA
                            anthonyh @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                            The coalesce job in my experience usually doesn't take too long, but it's purely based on your host Sr performance.

                            And while you can kick it off manually once offline, you would still have no status.

                            Do you have XO? I believe it'll show you unhealthy SRs.

                            I do not have XenOrchestra. I should set that up...

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                            • anthonyhA
                              anthonyh
                              last edited by

                              Last night I set up a new SR for Zimbra and live migrated the OS disk over to the new SR without any issues. Took ~5 minutes for the 20 GB VHD.

                              I'd like to do the same for the 1 TB VHD, but it makes me nervous...

                              If the process was to bomb mid-progress, what would happen? Is it easy to recover from?

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @anthonyh
                                last edited by

                                @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                The coalesce job in my experience usually doesn't take too long, but it's purely based on your host Sr performance.

                                And while you can kick it off manually once offline, you would still have no status.

                                Do you have XO? I believe it'll show you unhealthy SRs.

                                I do not have XenOrchestra. I should set that up...

                                It literally takes longer to update the guest.

                                https://mangolassi.it/topic/12809/xen-orchestra-community-edition-installing-with-yarn

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @anthonyh
                                  last edited by

                                  @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                  Last night I set up a new SR for Zimbra and live migrated the OS disk over to the new SR without any issues. Took ~5 minutes for the 20 GB VHD.

                                  I'd like to do the same for the 1 TB VHD, but it makes me nervous...

                                  If the process was to bomb mid-progress, what would happen? Is it easy to recover from?

                                  You would have a backup, but why go through this process? Why not let the system run a coalesce? Is this a production system or your lab?

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                                  • momurdaM
                                    momurda @anthonyh
                                    last edited by

                                    @anthonyh I have had a few disk migrations fail over the last 2 years. Most of the time you just end up with a broken vdi on the destination and the source is fine without issue.
                                    But i have had to restart guest after disk migration failure before.
                                    @DustinB3403 It is his exchange server.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @momurda
                                      last edited by

                                      @momurda said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                      @anthonyh I have had a few disk migrations fail over the last 2 years. Most of the time you just end up with a broken vdi on the destination and the source is fine without issue.
                                      But i have had to restart guest after disk migration failure before.
                                      @DustinB3403 It is his exchange server.

                                      So even more reason to let the coalesce process complete.

                                      Disable any backup jobs for a bit (snapshots cause this issue).

                                      https://techblog.jeppson.org/2015/02/reclaim-lost-space-xenserver-6-5/

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                                      • anthonyhA
                                        anthonyh @momurda
                                        last edited by

                                        @momurda said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                        @anthonyh I have had a few disk migrations fail over the last 2 years. Most of the time you just end up with a broken vdi on the destination and the source is fine without issue.
                                        But i have had to restart guest after disk migration failure before.

                                        I'm OK with that. I will have to think about this...

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                                        • anthonyhA
                                          anthonyh @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                          @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                          Last night I set up a new SR for Zimbra and live migrated the OS disk over to the new SR without any issues. Took ~5 minutes for the 20 GB VHD.

                                          I'd like to do the same for the 1 TB VHD, but it makes me nervous...

                                          If the process was to bomb mid-progress, what would happen? Is it easy to recover from?

                                          You would have a backup, but why go through this process? Why not let the system run a coalesce? Is this a production system or your lab?

                                          Production system. The problem is that there isn't enough space on the SR to perform a coalesce. I'm trying to avoid bringing Zimbra down if at all possible. Might not be possible, but I can at least try. 😄

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @anthonyh
                                            last edited by

                                            @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                            @momurda said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                            @anthonyh I have had a few disk migrations fail over the last 2 years. Most of the time you just end up with a broken vdi on the destination and the source is fine without issue.
                                            But i have had to restart guest after disk migration failure before.

                                            I'm OK with that. I will have to think about this...

                                            This can mean unplanned downtime. Which for an exchange system can be costly. Granted the downtime is usually nominal but is worth considering allowing the system to clean up this issue at the nearest possible planned down time.

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