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    • StrongBadS
      StrongBad
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      I think that you can use LibreOffice on Linux to fill in Word forms, but I am not sure.

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        thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        Since a form is a static or "terminal" document, PDF would seem to make the most sense. If the form was being edited, that would be different.

        Exactly. But being filled in is not being edited. That's why you create fillable PDFs.

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          thanksajdotcom @StrongBad
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          @StrongBad said:

          I think that you can use LibreOffice on Linux to fill in Word forms, but I am not sure.

          And this right here is a very nice reason why Word DOC/DOCX will never be the standard form. Either the person has to have paid software for you to guarantee it will work, or your are relying on free software to be able to pull it off, and without an equivalent to Adobe Reader but for Word documents, businesses, government, etc will never do that.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @thanksajdotcom
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            @ajstringham said:

            @StrongBad said:

            I think that you can use LibreOffice on Linux to fill in Word forms, but I am not sure.

            And this right here is a very nice reason why Word DOC/DOCX will never be the standard form. Either the person has to have paid software for you to guarantee it will work, or your are relying on free software to be able to pull it off, and without an equivalent to Adobe Reader but for Word documents, businesses, government, etc will never do that.

            Actually LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice have excellent Doc and Docx support. There are some advanced functions that I don't think are there yet but for most everything else they work as anticipated.

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              thanksajdotcom @coliver
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              @coliver said:

              @ajstringham said:

              @StrongBad said:

              I think that you can use LibreOffice on Linux to fill in Word forms, but I am not sure.

              And this right here is a very nice reason why Word DOC/DOCX will never be the standard form. Either the person has to have paid software for you to guarantee it will work, or your are relying on free software to be able to pull it off, and without an equivalent to Adobe Reader but for Word documents, businesses, government, etc will never do that.

              Actually LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice have excellent Doc and Docx support. There are some advanced functions that I don't think are there yet but for most everything else they work as anticipated.

              They do NOW but even if it wasn't in the past year or two, it wasn't something that was supported 5 years ago. Also, their compatibility for maintaining custom formatting is still not even close to perfect. I've seen documents opened in LibreOffice that were generated in Office 2010 or 2013 get majorly screwed up, in terms of formatting.

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              • thanksajdotcomT
                thanksajdotcom
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                It's especially noticeable with the arrangement/placement of objects. They go haywire.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @thanksajdotcom
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                  @ajstringham said:

                  @coliver said:

                  @ajstringham said:

                  @StrongBad said:

                  I think that you can use LibreOffice on Linux to fill in Word forms, but I am not sure.

                  And this right here is a very nice reason why Word DOC/DOCX will never be the standard form. Either the person has to have paid software for you to guarantee it will work, or your are relying on free software to be able to pull it off, and without an equivalent to Adobe Reader but for Word documents, businesses, government, etc will never do that.

                  Actually LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice have excellent Doc and Docx support. There are some advanced functions that I don't think are there yet but for most everything else they work as anticipated.

                  They do NOW but even if it wasn't in the past year or two, it wasn't something that was supported 5 years ago. Also, their compatibility for maintaining custom formatting is still not even close to perfect. I've seen documents opened in LibreOffice that were generated in Office 2010 or 2013 get majorly screwed up, in terms of formatting.

                  To be fair I've seen documents opened between versions of Office where the format was just as messed up as porting it to an OSS application. Either way though your point stands.

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                    thanksajdotcom @coliver
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                    @coliver said:

                    @ajstringham said:

                    @coliver said:

                    @ajstringham said:

                    @StrongBad said:

                    I think that you can use LibreOffice on Linux to fill in Word forms, but I am not sure.

                    And this right here is a very nice reason why Word DOC/DOCX will never be the standard form. Either the person has to have paid software for you to guarantee it will work, or your are relying on free software to be able to pull it off, and without an equivalent to Adobe Reader but for Word documents, businesses, government, etc will never do that.

                    Actually LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice have excellent Doc and Docx support. There are some advanced functions that I don't think are there yet but for most everything else they work as anticipated.

                    They do NOW but even if it wasn't in the past year or two, it wasn't something that was supported 5 years ago. Also, their compatibility for maintaining custom formatting is still not even close to perfect. I've seen documents opened in LibreOffice that were generated in Office 2010 or 2013 get majorly screwed up, in terms of formatting.

                    To be fair I've seen documents opened between versions of Office where the format was just as messed up as porting it to an OSS application. Either way though your point stands.

                    And that just solidifies my point. Documents generated in Office 2013 will open and render slightly different in Office 2010, and even more different in Office 2007. It's not perfect for cross-version compatibility, even with a DOCX. PDF doesn't have this problem.

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                    • StrongBadS
                      StrongBad @thanksajdotcom
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                      @ajstringham said:

                      Either the person has to have paid software for you to guarantee it will work, or your are relying on free software to be able to pull it off, and without an equivalent to Adobe Reader but for Word documents, businesses, government, etc will never do that.

                      How does the Word Viewer not behave correctly, in this case?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @StrongBad
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                        @StrongBad said:

                        @ajstringham said:

                        Either the person has to have paid software for you to guarantee it will work, or your are relying on free software to be able to pull it off, and without an equivalent to Adobe Reader but for Word documents, businesses, government, etc will never do that.

                        How does the Word Viewer not behave correctly, in this case?

                        Probably hasn't been updated with the latest features.

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                          thanksajdotcom @StrongBad
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                          @StrongBad because Word Viewer is a totally static program. Word documents are dynamic by nature. If you can create a Word document where the form itself is locked but the fields are fillable with Word Viewer, I'll take a lot of it back. But, AFAIK, that's not how Word works.

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                            thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            @StrongBad said:

                            @ajstringham said:

                            Either the person has to have paid software for you to guarantee it will work, or your are relying on free software to be able to pull it off, and without an equivalent to Adobe Reader but for Word documents, businesses, government, etc will never do that.

                            How does the Word Viewer not behave correctly, in this case?

                            Probably hasn't been updated with the latest features.

                            Word Viewer isn't a common program to find used in homes or businesses. I doubt it's maintained as a program very well, due to the very fact it's a very low-volume product.

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                            • gjacobseG
                              gjacobse
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                              Pardon the tread re-direct - This isn't so much about Microsoft Office as it is about a PDF document.

                              I don't know if it really matters - again, we get grant information,.. a single PDF could be 27MB - And in some cases as I am told, they have to re-order the sequence of pages... OR, convert it from a PDF to Word for making changes.

                              So looking at Adobe's site - it appears that the only option I have is the monthly subscription?

                              Not sure I want to go that route..

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
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                                What about Nuance's version of PDF editor?

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                                  thanksajdotcom @gjacobse
                                  last edited by

                                  @g.jacobse said:

                                  Pardon the tread re-direct - This isn't so much about Microsoft Office as it is about a PDF document.

                                  I don't know if it really matters - again, we get grant information,.. a single PDF could be 27MB - And in some cases as I am told, they have to re-order the sequence of pages... OR, convert it from a PDF to Word for making changes.

                                  So looking at Adobe's site - it appears that the only option I have is the monthly subscription?

                                  Not sure I want to go that route..

                                  If I remember, we talked about CutePDF and the Foxit suite as alternative options.

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                                    thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    What about Nuance's version of PDF editor?

                                    Don't care for it personally. Never liked it.

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                                    • gjacobseG
                                      gjacobse @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender
                                      Thanks - I had forgotten about them.

                                      cutePDF Professional

                                      • $49 per lic

                                      FoxIT

                                      • $103 per lic

                                      Adobe

                                      • $14.99/month per lic

                                      Nuance

                                      • $149 per lic (pre NPO discount)
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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @gjacobse
                                        last edited by

                                        @g.jacobse said:

                                        @Dashrender
                                        Thanks - I had forgotten about them.

                                        cutePDF Professional

                                        • $49 per lic

                                        FoxIT

                                        • $103 per lic

                                        Adobe

                                        • $14.99/month per lic

                                        Nuance

                                        • $149 per lic (pre NPO discount)

                                        Looks like you have some trial work ahead to see what's actually going to work for you.

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                                        • thanksajdotcomT
                                          thanksajdotcom @gjacobse
                                          last edited by

                                          @g.jacobse said:

                                          @Dashrender
                                          Thanks - I had forgotten about them.

                                          cutePDF Professional

                                          • $49 per lic

                                          FoxIT

                                          • $103 per lic

                                          Adobe

                                          • $14.99/month per lic

                                          Nuance

                                          • $149 per lic (pre NPO discount)

                                          Yup. I'm not sure if all those have all the features you need. However, it's worth looking into.

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