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@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.
I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.
And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.
Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.
then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.
No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.
My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.
This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.
Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.
not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.
In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.
It would have to be like $4gb to match what I got now
And they are still making money... we have no idea how much money. 90% of that could be profit, or 1% could be.
We know that Google Fi is $10/GB, so we know the price can be below that.
Even in the 1,000,000 GB range you are close to $1 per 100MB. That is down from about $15 to $18 a few years ago.
In 2014 I know Tmo was paying $1.80 per 100MB or $18/GB to networks when their users were roaming outside Tmo coverage.
So that is why you are now seeing the carrier networks start to be more attractive than the MVNO and Google Fi options
Google fi is $20 for talk/text + $60 = $80 for 6GB
ATT Prepaid is $40 for 6GB and talk/text
AT&T also allows data rollover if you have a slow month. I end up using all my daa these days.
I setup a prepaid family plan with AT&T when I left Fi and this year they started a family plan...
Me $40 for 6GB
Wife $35 for 6gb
Son $30 for 6GB
Daughter $25 for 6GB
Daughter $20 for 6GB
Son $15 for 6gBI get one bill, everyone gets their own 6GB and their own rollover and unlimited talk/text. After 6GB it just throttles.
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
each gets 6 GB, currently we each use around 3 GB, recent maxes have been close to 4 GB. Great way to save $40/m -
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
I wouldn't use Hulu even if it was free... let alone pay for Sprint. I'm perfectly happy with T-Mobile.
I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime. All I need. I already have unlimited internet with T-Mobile.
And even TMo isn't unlimited, because at 22 GB, they throttle if THEY choose to.
Lol, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 GB a month.
then you are drastically overpaying. For TMo to be smart, they need to anticipate you to use 22 GB and charge you based that on that usage, instead of charging you based upon you real issue.
No, doing family plan. Its way cheaper than any other. But still, it doesn't work like that. The only possible way it could be cheaper is if we used less than 2 GB.
My wife uses a lot more than me, but still we'll never see the 22 GB limit or whatever it is.
This is me so far this month... the 2gb limit I have set is meaningless now that it's unlimited. However, if i do stay below 2gb, the bill is 10 dollars cheaper.
Now WiFi on the otherhand.... that's up there lol.
not exactly correct. In the current setup that TMo offers, you're right. But TMo could offer you a cost per GB plan like Google Fi does and you probably save something if not a lot.
In order to charge flat rates, many people have to over pay for actual usage to make up the difference for the those that use a ton.
It would have to be like $4gb to match what I got now
And they are still making money... we have no idea how much money. 90% of that could be profit, or 1% could be.
We know that Google Fi is $10/GB, so we know the price can be below that.
Even in the 1,000,000 GB range you are close to $1 per 100MB. That is down from about $15 to $18 a few years ago.
In 2014 I know Tmo was paying $1.80 per 100MB or $18/GB to networks when their users were roaming outside Tmo coverage.
So that is why you are now seeing the carrier networks start to be more attractive than the MVNO and Google Fi options
Google fi is $20 for talk/text + $60 = $80 for 6GB
ATT Prepaid is $40 for 6GB and talk/text
AT&T also allows data rollover if you have a slow month. I end up using all my daa these days.
I setup a prepaid family plan with AT&T when I left Fi and this year they started a family plan...
Me $40 for 6GB
Wife $35 for 6gb
Son $30 for 6GB
Daughter $25 for 6GB
Daughter $20 for 6GB
Son $15 for 6gBI get one bill, everyone gets their own 6GB and their own rollover and unlimited talk/text. After 6GB it just throttles.
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
each gets 6 GB, currently we each use around 3 GB, recent maxes have been close to 4 GB. Great way to save $40/mWould very much like to see Google Fi do something here, not sure that the data prices are avail.
Trying to find where someone dropped a line about google Fi towers in google Fiber cities...
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@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
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Looks like you can get Netflix for free if you use T-Mobile, even if you're an existing customer.
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@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Sure, if I don't want to use my phones. I actually tried that this summer for my Europe trip.. I signed up for service (new phone numbers - @JaredBusch ) and could only get service in 1 place I visit weekly in my home city.
TMo was useless in most of my home city and home home.
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@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Sure, if I don't want to use my phones. I actually tried that this summer for my Europe trip.. I signed up for service (new phone numbers - @JaredBusch ) and could only get service in 1 place I visit weekly in my home city.
TMo was useless in most of my home city and home home.
ouch, didn't know that!
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@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
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@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
Before taxes.
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@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
Before taxes.
Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?
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@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
Before taxes.
TMo has that taxes rolled in thing I guess?
The only tax I seem to pay is sales tax. Hadn’t really looked before. It’s about 6%
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@dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
Before taxes.
Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?
No of course not, but I listed my prices in my post as post taxes.
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@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
Before taxes.
TMo has that taxes rolled in thing I guess?
The only tax I seem to pay is sales tax. Hadn’t really looked before. It’s about 6%
Aww.. I forgot that TMo started that - "including taxes" bit. None the less, this doesn't apply, the $60 PrePaid was from ATT - who does not include the taxes in that.
But huh? you saw an additional fee for 6% with TMo even after they claimed all taxes included?
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@dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
Before taxes.
Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?
My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...
The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).
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@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
Before taxes.
Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?
My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...
The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).
I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.
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@dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
Before taxes.
Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?
My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...
The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).
I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.
It would make sense for taxes to be included in the sticker price. Not sure why NY, and other states, don't do that.
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@coliver Because they can make more money when they don't include the taxes. . .
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@coliver said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
Before taxes.
Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?
My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...
The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).
I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.
It would make sense for taxes to be included in the sticker price. Not sure why NY, and other states, don't do that.
Yes and no. I like the simplicity of seeing a price on the shelf and knowing that that's the price I'm spending before I walk up to the checkout counter (a la most of Europe - maybe more places), but I don't like that fact that the taxes then become a buried thing and basically we the people become divorced from what we are being charged for taxes.
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@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@coliver said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
Before taxes.
Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?
My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...
The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).
I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.
It would make sense for taxes to be included in the sticker price. Not sure why NY, and other states, don't do that.
Yes and no. I like the simplicity of seeing a price on the shelf and knowing that that's the price I'm spending before I walk up to the checkout counter (a la most of Europe - maybe more places), but I don't like that fact that the taxes then become a buried thing and basically we the people become divorced from what we are being charged for taxes.
Its basically no telecom tax, if you pay online with credit card there is just sales tax. If you buy a prepaid card in the store you pay sales tax then.
If you had a 3rd or 4th phone @Dashrender it really starts to get cheap lol. For my 8 year old I only paid $15 and he gets 6GB for his ipad, and texting. Calling he cant use until he gets an iPhone down the road.
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@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@coliver said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
Before taxes.
Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?
My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...
The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).
I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.
It would make sense for taxes to be included in the sticker price. Not sure why NY, and other states, don't do that.
Yes and no. I like the simplicity of seeing a price on the shelf and knowing that that's the price I'm spending before I walk up to the checkout counter (a la most of Europe - maybe more places), but I don't like that fact that the taxes then become a buried thing and basically we the people become divorced from what we are being charged for taxes.
You can't have it both ways. FFS stop bitching up both sides of the river.
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@jaredbusch said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@coliver said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dustinb3403 said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@bigbear said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@tim_g said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
@dashrender said in What Net Neutrality Means to You SAMIT Video:
Time for me to look into prepaid. my bill can drop from $124 to $85 each after taxes.
Or you could just go T-Mobile and get unlimited everything for a flat $70 per month, taxes and fees included.
Prioritization is actually 50GB with TMo, not 22.
Unlimited with att prepaid is $60 now
Before taxes.
Is this weird? Any time I look to buy something I immediately assume it's before tax and S&H. Are most items in your part of the country listed including taxes?
My main point was to point out that I'm currently paying around $122/m after taxes...
The ATT Prepaid unlimited is $60 for first, and $55 for second, plus taxes makes it about $125 after tax... so it's a pretty close wash as far as price goes, and it moves me from 15 Shared GB/m to unlimited* (* data speeds slowed after 22 GB at ATT's discretion).
I was just asking, as sometimes I find I'm the "weird" one.
It would make sense for taxes to be included in the sticker price. Not sure why NY, and other states, don't do that.
Yes and no. I like the simplicity of seeing a price on the shelf and knowing that that's the price I'm spending before I walk up to the checkout counter (a la most of Europe - maybe more places), but I don't like that fact that the taxes then become a buried thing and basically we the people become divorced from what we are being charged for taxes.
You can't have it both ways. FFS stop bitching up both sides of the river.
I'm also not really sure what he's trying to get at? Taxes don't become buried if they are added to the sticker price. It is still incredibly easy to find sales tax rates for counties/states, as well as tax rates for specific things.
